se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 11, 2012 5:40pm
John Fay ‏@johnfayman I've been out of pocket all day. Just confirmation that the Gregorius and Stubbs trade for Choo is all but complete. #reds
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 11, 2012 5:42pm
se-alum;1340675 wrote:John Fay ‏@johnfayman I've been out of pocket all day. Just confirmation that the Gregorius and Stubbs trade for Choo is all but complete. #reds
Nice :thumbup:
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 11, 2012 5:43pm
Hope this goes down, I would love choo in gabp
Stubbs...lol
Stubbs...lol
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Dec 11, 2012 6:02pm
RIP Stubbs as my favorite Red. 2010-2012. Was there for his only grand slam, a 2 Homer game at Cincy, a home run at Wrigley, his walk off against Atlanta I think last year on Sunday night baseball, and 622 strikeouts. Sun/moondeck seats won't be the same.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Dec 11, 2012 6:09pm
Choo's career OBP is .381. If this goes through...
Phillips
Choo
Votto
Ludwick/Frazier
Bruce
Ludwick/Frazier
Cozart
Hanigan/Mesoraco
That's a solid lineup. I think Cozart being shifted down makes it more versatile and will allow him to do more with the bat. We'll see...
Phillips
Choo
Votto
Ludwick/Frazier
Bruce
Ludwick/Frazier
Cozart
Hanigan/Mesoraco
That's a solid lineup. I think Cozart being shifted down makes it more versatile and will allow him to do more with the bat. We'll see...
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Dec 11, 2012 6:18pm
Reds line-up is looking kind of stacked for next year.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 11, 2012 6:20pm
This trade could up being one of those that doesn't help either team. Choo has been a disappoint for the past few seasons.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Dec 11, 2012 6:25pm
Commander of Awesome;1340704 wrote:This trade could up being one of those that doesn't help either team. Choo has been a disappoint for the past few seasons.
Career .381 obp >>>>>>>>> Stubbs .214 batting average.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Dec 11, 2012 6:27pm
Gotta figure at GABP, Choo is a plus hitter. He compliments Votto tremendously in the #2 hole because he has a high OBP, can walk and make contact. Even in a "disappointing year", he hit 16 HR and had 43 doubles.Commander of Awesome;1340704 wrote:This trade could up being one of those that doesn't help either team. Choo has been a disappoint for the past few seasons.
Not sure if Choo can play like he did in 2010, but his make-up is exactly what the Reds need. Their consistency in getting on base at the top of the order was pitiful. Combined their #1 and 2 hitters had the lowest OBP and OPS in the MLB. Votto missed 2 months. It's amazing they even made the playoffs with the 1, 2 and 3 order they ran out there many times...
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 11, 2012 6:31pm
Absolutely, just saying he hasn't lived up to expectations in some time.Midstate01;1340708 wrote:Career .381 obp >>>>>>>>> Stubbs .214 batting average.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 11, 2012 6:38pm
I like the deal alot. Would love the deal if we got him re-signed. But it doesn't look like that is a possibility with Boras as his agent.
Basically this trade is Gregarious for Choo because Stubbs is beyond horrible right now. The Indians have a decent "buy-low" candidate in Stubbs. Maybe he just needs a change of scenery?
Basically this trade is Gregarious for Choo because Stubbs is beyond horrible right now. The Indians have a decent "buy-low" candidate in Stubbs. Maybe he just needs a change of scenery?
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 11, 2012 6:41pm
Commander of Awesome;1340704 wrote:Choo has been a disappoint for the past few seasons.
An Indians uniform will do that.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 11, 2012 6:42pm
Choo has played pretty well when healthy.. he just hasn't been healthy. He's a 20-20 guy otherwise.
This Reds team will have a crazy good offense if we get him
This Reds team will have a crazy good offense if we get him
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Dec 11, 2012 7:10pm
Choo's on-base .393. #Reds leadoff guys was .254 and got 756 plates appearances. That mean reaching base 297 times, instead of 192.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Dec 11, 2012 7:10pm
I hate getting rid of Didi but I've wanted Choo for a while now. And getting rid of Stubbs is a huge positive.
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
Dec 11, 2012 7:16pm
Choo really hasn't been the same since his DUI. He is however, a lot better than Stubbs
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september63
Posts: 5,789
Dec 11, 2012 7:20pm
I'm a bit frustrated as an Indians fan watching them dump good players again. Seems the Reds are a small market city playing big market ball these days!! Must be nice having ownership willing to spend money.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Dec 11, 2012 7:45pm
Reds will receive Jason Donald also
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 11, 2012 7:49pm
I'm just not sure where Didi fit into the Reds plans?justincredible;1340736 wrote:I hate getting rid of Didi but I've wanted Choo for a while now. And getting rid of Stubbs is a huge positive.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 11, 2012 7:54pm
I think Choo would lead off.Azubuike24;1340697 wrote:Choo's career OBP is .381. If this goes through...
Phillips
Choo
Votto
Ludwick/Frazier
Bruce
Ludwick/Frazier
Cozart
Hanigan/Mesoraco
That's a solid lineup. I think Cozart being shifted down makes it more versatile and will allow him to do more with the bat. We'll see...
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Dec 11, 2012 8:06pm
I probably would've tried to trade Cozart after this season or next. Cozart is 27 and we had control of Didi for, I think, the next 6 years.se-alum;1340750 wrote:I'm just not sure where Didi fit into the Reds plans?
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Dec 11, 2012 8:07pm
Don't get me wrong, I really like Cozart. And as good as he is defensively, Didi is much, much better.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Dec 11, 2012 8:08pm
Championship.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 11, 2012 8:12pm
se-alum;1340754 wrote:I think Choo would lead off.
Yeah me too. Had good OBP and would allow lineup to go L-R-L-R
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Dec 11, 2012 8:34pm
If Choo is leading off I don't know that I want BP 2nd. That's a lot of GIBP opportunities.