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zach24oz
Posts: 598
Oct 13, 2012 11:20am
Trade Stubbs and Leake away if possible, bring in Josh Hamilton. OF would be Hamilton, Heisey, Bruce if that happened.
Lineup: 2B Phillips, CF/LF Heisey, Votto, LF/CF Hamilton, RF Bruce, 3B Frazier, SS Cozart, C Hanigan
That's my dream scenario but highly unlikely to happen. All depends on what happens with Luddy, Bailey, Leake, and Stubbs in the offseason. If they're not gonna play Heisey much more next year just trade him or something bc they're just wasting him IMO.
Lineup: 2B Phillips, CF/LF Heisey, Votto, LF/CF Hamilton, RF Bruce, 3B Frazier, SS Cozart, C Hanigan
That's my dream scenario but highly unlikely to happen. All depends on what happens with Luddy, Bailey, Leake, and Stubbs in the offseason. If they're not gonna play Heisey much more next year just trade him or something bc they're just wasting him IMO.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Oct 13, 2012 11:28am
I want nothing to do with Josh Hamilton. There is a 0% chance they'd go after him anyway.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Oct 13, 2012 12:42pm
I can't say this is direct information, but it's from a decent source who is fairly well-connected with a few people who work in the Reds front-office staff.
Hamilton and the Reds had a tumultuous relationship. He was grateful for the opportunity they gave him and they really liked his passion and overcoming the odds story. However, he was NOT happy in Cincinnati and they were not happy with having to basically babysit him 24/7. I've heard a few stories about how it created a fracture in the clubhouse and he was basically operating on an island with his own schedule, training regimen and team rules. The trade to Texas was less about improving the team and more about trying to avoid an explosion. Not that he was going to go off the rails or quit on the Reds, but they got the sense that time was running out and that they had to get what they could while his value was decent. Volquez was NOT their first choice, in-fact, the Reds actually balked at even taking him because they felt he was a bad fit for GABP and had some injury concerns. Obviously the deal happened.
Bottom line. The Reds already have 90M+ committed to payroll and one of the top 10 prospects in baseball who plays CF. They couldn't afford Josh Hamilton and even if he would take 50% of what he will demand, the Reds still wouldn't pay him that. He would never consider the Reds either.
Hamilton and the Reds had a tumultuous relationship. He was grateful for the opportunity they gave him and they really liked his passion and overcoming the odds story. However, he was NOT happy in Cincinnati and they were not happy with having to basically babysit him 24/7. I've heard a few stories about how it created a fracture in the clubhouse and he was basically operating on an island with his own schedule, training regimen and team rules. The trade to Texas was less about improving the team and more about trying to avoid an explosion. Not that he was going to go off the rails or quit on the Reds, but they got the sense that time was running out and that they had to get what they could while his value was decent. Volquez was NOT their first choice, in-fact, the Reds actually balked at even taking him because they felt he was a bad fit for GABP and had some injury concerns. Obviously the deal happened.
Bottom line. The Reds already have 90M+ committed to payroll and one of the top 10 prospects in baseball who plays CF. They couldn't afford Josh Hamilton and even if he would take 50% of what he will demand, the Reds still wouldn't pay him that. He would never consider the Reds either.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Oct 13, 2012 1:23pm
Did they say why he wasn't happy here or if there were any other possible teams in play for him?
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Oct 13, 2012 1:25pm
I wouldn't want any part of Hamilton either. He's one test away from being gone forever.
Bourne would be awesome. But let's face the facts. They spent a lot of money last offseason. The team next year will be basically the same. Gotta hope guys improve.
Bourne would be awesome. But let's face the facts. They spent a lot of money last offseason. The team next year will be basically the same. Gotta hope guys improve.
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Oct 15, 2012 1:13pm
Reds & Dusty Baker agree to 2-yr Extension
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Oct 15, 2012 1:51pm
Jacoby needs to go. But they said its likely he's back. Terrible move
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Oct 15, 2012 1:55pm
FOCK!! Expected, but FOCK!!
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Oct 15, 2012 1:56pm
Drew Stubbs signs 6 year/$50million extension.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Oct 15, 2012 2:08pm
I would stop watching baseball if they did this.se-alum;1295893 wrote:Drew Stubbs signs 6 year/$50million extension.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Oct 15, 2012 2:11pm
Not only is he a terrible coach but he's also a dick. I hate that fucking guy.Midstate01;1295888 wrote:Jacoby needs to go. But they said its likely he's back. Terrible move
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Oct 15, 2012 2:15pm
He killed your goal to be the Reds CF (re: the changing careers thread) that quickly?justincredible;1295901 wrote:Not only is he a terrible coach but he's also a dick. I hate that fucking guy.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Oct 15, 2012 2:26pm
Yeah, he totally hurt my feels.Heretic;1295903 wrote:He killed your goal to be the Reds CF (re: the changing careers thread) that quickly?
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 15, 2012 2:44pm
Reds trade Drew Stubbs to the Royals for Lorenzo Cain!
Victory in Jesus
Victory in Jesus
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Oct 15, 2012 2:45pm
Who? Ill take it!
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Oct 15, 2012 2:55pm
If this isn't true, I will hunt you down, I will find you, and I WILL kill you.Ironman92;1295925 wrote:Reds trade Drew Stubbs to the Royals for Lorenzo Cain!
Victory in Jesus
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Oct 15, 2012 6:27pm
It's obviously not true. You can't make trades until after the World Series...
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 15, 2012 8:36pm
Azubuike24;1296031 wrote:It's obviously not true. You can't make trades until after the World Series...
These cats are easy. Lol
Lorenzo Cain is the awesome CF that splits time for the Royals. Brewers had him and he dazzled against us making one of the best plays I've ever seen. The Royals have 3 guys that play CF that are possibly 3 of the top defensive CF in the game.....and Dyson may be the best.
I believe Cain is also a lefty....I bet the Royals would bite.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 15, 2012 8:42pm
Type in "Lorenzo Cain amazing catch"....it's worth it.
I don't know how to link it on here. Sorry
I don't know how to link it on here. Sorry
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 15, 2012 8:45pm
Tried but failed
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Oct 15, 2012 9:47pm
R.I.P Ironman92
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Nov 15, 2012 11:17pm
Cubs signed Dioner Navarro
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2012/11/15/cubs-sign-c-navarro/
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2012/11/15/cubs-sign-c-navarro/
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Nov 26, 2012 7:11pm
Just read a tweet saying reds are close to signing broxton. Looks like they may try chapman out as a starter after all.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Nov 26, 2012 7:38pm
Rotinaj;1329917 wrote:Just read a tweet saying reds are close to signing broxton. Looks like they may try chapman out as a starter after all.
Love moving Chapman to the rotation
Would like to move Leake for a set up guy
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Nov 26, 2012 8:51pm
Would love to see Chapman's arm hold up as a starter, but I have my doubts.