Why do you hate unions?

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isadore

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Sep 11, 2012 10:44 PM
and the true compensation laws came into effect with the passage of state laws that set up formal systems of worker compensation through the efforts of the unions. they provided systems that enpowered workers who had little chance in court previously v the powerful corporations and their lawyers.
Sep 11, 2012 10:44pm
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jmog

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Sep 12, 2012 8:44 AM
isadore;1268292 wrote:if they do not join they should pay a negotiation fee. the absurdities of not being able to destroy workers lives then abandon them, the absurdity of not being able to use child labor, absurdity of being forced to pay compensation injured at your business, this is how soulless corporations operate.
You can't be serious...there is no way someone actually believes this and is not trolling.
Sep 12, 2012 8:44am
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isadore

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Sep 12, 2012 10:14 AM
jmog;1268613 wrote:You can't be serious...there is no way someone actually believes this and is not trolling.
we can see how this corporations operate overseas outside of regulation and union pressure. they do all those things
Sep 12, 2012 10:14am
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jmog

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Sep 12, 2012 10:42 AM
isadore;1268675 wrote:we can see how this corporations operate overseas outside of regulation and union pressure. they do all those things
Regulations I can agree with (to an extent) but union pressure is a joke.

Even in the US now, more and more companies are getting sick of the union BS.
Sep 12, 2012 10:42am
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QuakerOats

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Sep 12, 2012 10:51 AM
Why do you hate unions?


Because they create Rust Belts
Because they break the backs of taxpayers
Because they cause entire industries to go bankrupt
Because they create urban desolation and despair
Because they leave irreparable carnage in their wake
Because they cause much-needed capital to flee
Because they render huge geographical regions incapable of growth
Because they cannot provide even a glimmer of hope for a better future
Sep 12, 2012 10:51am
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Con_Alma

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Sep 12, 2012 11:54 AM
Why indeed. When the production of the US worker including the costs of employing here, and shipping products alng with providing services here are lower than employing other places, it makes sense to be in the U.S.. When those costs are higher there greater value in employing elswhere. If it's no longer China then Africa may make some sense.
Sep 12, 2012 11:54am
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isadore

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Sep 12, 2012 7:31 PM
QuakerOats;1268721 wrote:Why do you hate unions?


Because they create Rust Belts
Because they break the backs of taxpayers
Because they cause entire industries to go bankrupt
Because they create urban desolation and despair
Because they leave irreparable carnage in their wake
Because they cause much-needed capital to flee
Because they render huge geographical regions incapable of growth
Because they cannot provide even a glimmer of hope for a better future
gosh a ruddies sees like the cause of our problems would be more likely greedy and incompetent business management and the corrupt republican party that serves it.
Sep 12, 2012 7:31pm
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isadore

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Sep 12, 2012 7:34 PM
jmog;1268709 wrote:Regulations I can agree with (to an extent) but union pressure is a joke.

Even in the US now, more and more companies are getting sick of the union BS.
we can see how corporations act when they are not watched by government and the unions. when we had strong unions we had a prosperous working class, as unions decline so does the welfare of the workers and the middle class.
Sep 12, 2012 7:34pm
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Prescott

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Sep 12, 2012 7:45 PM
Unions protect unproductive workers and do nothing help to fairly compensate productive workers.
Sep 12, 2012 7:45pm
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isadore

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Sep 12, 2012 8:06 PM
unions protect workers from soulless, conscienceless corporations.
Sep 12, 2012 8:06pm
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gut

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Sep 12, 2012 8:19 PM
Unions are souless communists created by gubmit.
Sep 12, 2012 8:19pm
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Sep 12, 2012 9:19 PM
Anyone want to place bets on how fast it will take isadore to meltdown the morning after Election Day? :D
Sep 12, 2012 9:19pm
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isadore

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Sep 12, 2012 9:36 PM
gut;1269214 wrote:Unions are souless communists created by gubmit.
gosh a ruddies, unions rise from the workers, people with souls and compassion.
Sep 12, 2012 9:36pm
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isadore

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Sep 12, 2012 9:40 PM
believer;1269268 wrote:Anyone want to place bets on how fast it will take isadore to meltdown the morning after Election Day? :D
gosh we can hope for the triumph of decency and the defeat of mitt and his minions. he was meant for a life in dressage.
Sep 12, 2012 9:40pm
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gut

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Sep 12, 2012 9:45 PM
isadore;1269286 wrote:gosh a ruddies, unions rise from the workers, people with souls and compassion.
Corporations rise from people with souls and compassion, too. And the corporation has done a lot more for America than the unions. I'm not just talking the economy, either, but in our communities and charitable organizations.
Sep 12, 2012 9:45pm
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isadore

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Sep 12, 2012 10:18 PM
gut;1269292 wrote:Corporations rise from people with souls and compassion, too. And the corporation has done a lot more for America than the unions. I'm not just talking the economy, either, but in our communities and charitable organizations.
they have done much more in destroying people's lives. they are economic beings that operate with no compassion or conscience.
Sep 12, 2012 10:18pm
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gut

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Sep 12, 2012 10:30 PM
isadore;1269314 wrote:they have done much more in destroying people's lives. they are economic beings that operate with no compassion or conscience.
Yeah, because unions don't have a history of corruption and greed at all.
Sep 12, 2012 10:30pm
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isadore

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Sep 12, 2012 11:05 PM
gut;1269322 wrote:Yeah, because unions don't have a history of corruption and greed at all.
as oppposed to corporations. you know those economic entities that the unions fought to limit unsafe unworking conditions, to end 14 hour days, 6 day work weeks, to win workers compensation, to stop child labor.
Sep 12, 2012 11:05pm
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isadore

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Sep 13, 2012 8:17 AM
FDR was pulling us out of the enormous hole the Republicans had put us when the japanese attacked. conditions were improving.
Sep 13, 2012 8:17am
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BoatShoes

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Sep 13, 2012 10:02 AM
QuakerOats;1268721 wrote:Why do you hate unions?


Because they create Rust Belts
Because they break the backs of taxpayers
Because they cause entire industries to go bankrupt
Because they create urban desolation and despair
Because they leave irreparable carnage in their wake
Because they cause much-needed capital to flee
Because they render huge geographical regions incapable of growth
Because they cannot provide even a glimmer of hope for a better future
That's more like it...

Sep 13, 2012 10:02am
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BoatShoes

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Sep 13, 2012 10:04 AM
believer;1269268 wrote:Anyone want to place bets on how fast it will take isadore to meltdown the morning after Election Day? :D
Anything can happen and I'm not confident in BHO's chances but if the election were today it wouldn't be Isadore who would be melting down...
Sep 13, 2012 10:04am
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stlouiedipalma

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Sep 13, 2012 7:11 PM
believer;1269268 wrote:Anyone want to place bets on how fast it will take isadore to meltdown the morning after Election Day? :D
I'd like some of that action, because the way it looks now it will most likely be you who's doing the melting.

You know, we've never discussed this before. Perhaps a new thread might be in order. What would you do if Obama wins re-election? For that matter, what would I do if Romney wins? As for the latter, I'll still get my morning cup of Starbucks and continue making plans for my annual winter golf getaway. I love the banter on here, but who wins or loses really won't make much of a difference to me. I felt the same way when Reagan, Bush Sr. and W. got elected. I simply went about my business. At my age, there's not much that can surprise me.
Sep 13, 2012 7:11pm
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Con_Alma

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Sep 13, 2012 8:48 PM
stlouiedipalma;1270178 wrote:I'd like some of that action, because the way it looks now it will most likely be you who's doing the melting.

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I personally couldn't ever imagine melting down based on someone being elected President.
Sep 13, 2012 8:48pm
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believer

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Sep 13, 2012 9:41 PM
Con_Alma;1270262 wrote:I personally couldn't ever imagine melting down based on someone being elected President.
My liberal ex-wife did when Reagan kicked Carter's ass in 1980...seriously. She swore there was going to be a nuclear holocaust the day Reagan took office. :D

By the way my leftist OC friends, Carter was leading Reagan at this stage of the campaign in 1980 and we all know what ultimately happened.

I won't meltdown if BHO gets re-elected but I'll certainly be 100% convinced this country is nuts if he is.
Sep 13, 2012 9:41pm