pnhasbeen;1173911 wrote:Wait, you are wrong. Your entire thread was awful. You don't know everything. In fact, as Mooney said, you have been proven wrong many times on this very thread and just try to sidestep and divert. Your "intellectual prowess" is about as impressive as Texeria's .232 batting average.

I caught you lying about Ubaldo's run support. You gonna apologize? Or are you going to keep your reputation here as a liar. Ball's in your court.

like_that;1176372 wrote:There is more comedy on the pro sports forum. Check out the "Duane Wade" thread.

LOL. You're still here? What a surprise. Like_That hanging out in the basement. 24/7. How are the tourney threads going? LMFAO.

Footwedge;1176375 wrote:Just looked it up for shits and giggles...and you sir are a liar. Ubaldo's run support is over 5.3 for all of his starts.

As usual, I have to beat down the fraudulant posters here.

Hell, I'd have a better record than Ubaldo with that kind of run support.

Footwedge;1176378 wrote:I caught you lying about Ubaldo's run support. You gonna apologize? Or are you going to keep your reputation here as a liar. Ball's in your court.

You're right I did lie. I adjusted my quote down below.

pnhasbeen;1173904 wrote:Ubaldo starts, Indians win, 7.5 runs per game
Ubaldo starts, Indians lose, ~3.2 runs per game

His run support isn't that great wedge.

I can explain to you how I got those numbers if you want...
His total run support is 5.3, but if you break it down to when they win or lose. When they lose, they don't hit. It's that simple. You want him to hold a team to 1-2 runs every time? The most runs the Indians have scored in a game they LOST with Ubaldo pitching is 5(5/11 @ Bos). They've had 2 twice(4/25 vs KC and 5/1 @ CHW). They also had 4(4/7 vs TOR).

Now when they win, they've exploded twice for 13(4/15 @ KC) and just recently 9 (5/16 vs SEA). They also won 4-2(5/6 vs TEX) and 4-3(4/20 @ OAK).

If we ignore the large outliers, Ubaldo's total run support is only 3.5. So you see, if we use simple math we can show that Ubaldo's run support isn't that great and it is WORSE in games they lose.
Now, this isn't saying Ubaldo is really good. This is just saying you're a little senile thinking "you could be 5-2 with his run support."

pnhasbeen it's not worth your time. We're talking about someone who incorrectly formulated percentiles and then spent 2 days making himself look even more like a f*cking retard trying to argue his way around it.

like_that, saw the duane wade thread. Too funny.

At this point I have to imagine that maybe footwedge isn't as stupid as we think he just pretends to be that way, because I can't imagine someone is actually as dumb as the posts are that come from that screename.

lhslep134;1176480 wrote:At this point I have to imagine that maybe footwedge isn't as stupid as we think he just pretends to be that way, because I can't imagine someone is actually as dumb as the posts are that come from that screename.

I think hes just trolling just to mess with us.

Footwedge;1176364 wrote:** you're

For the idiot above...this is a grammatical error.

There's a difference between typing on a phone and leaving out an apostrophe and typing like a mentally retarded second grader.

You know what's really amazing there Shlep? I mispell a guy's name in a thread title and 24 hours later, there are over 200 posts. Do I dominate this site, or what?

Yup....the name footwedge is quite apropos...given the amount of time it's wedged up ass cracks of 23 year old know nothings. LMFO.

Footwedge;1177060 wrote:You know what's really amazing there Shlep? I mispell a guy's name in a thread title and 24 hours later, there are over 200 posts. Do I dominate this site, or what?

Yup....the name footwedge is quite apropos...given the amount of time it's wedged up ass cracks of 23 year old know nothings. LMFO.

A guy that goes 0/6 with 4 Ks and 5 errors can make the front page too. Getting attention doesn't make you Babe Ruth (although you probably went to HS with him).

Is there anyone on this site that agrees with Footwedge?

Footwedge;1177060 wrote:You know what's really amazing there Shlep? I mispell a guy's name in a thread title and 24 hours later, there are over 200 posts. Do I dominate this site, or what?

Yup....the name footwedge is quite apropos...given the amount of time it's wedged up ass cracks of 23 year old know nothings. LMFO.

Wedgie, why didn't you comment on me correcting that minor error?

DeadliestWarrior34;1176984 wrote:There's a difference between typing on a phone and leaving out an apostrophe and typing like a mentally retarded second grader.

LOL. You wouldn't say that to my face would ya tough guy?

During a normal week, I compose and type 8 to 10 formal quotations to potential customers totaling between 60 to 90 thousand dollars. I don't trust the office personnel to do this. Lesson learned from way back...when I do it, it's done professionally and correctly. I happen to work for the largest company in my particular industry in the state. I, by far and away, lead the company in both sales dollars and closing rates. If you don't know what a closing rate is, just ask.

On an anonymous chat board...such as this....I don't give a shit what is misspelled. For a 21 year old kid, you sure think you know a lot. Well guess what? Until you go out and earn a living, you don't know shit.

pnhasbeen;1177073 wrote:Wedgie, why didn't you comment on me correcting that minor error?

Kudos to you sir for manning up. However, calling it a "minor error" is a reach. At least you admitted your mistake.

DeadliestWarrior34;1177071 wrote:Is there anyone on this site that agrees with Footwedge?

You want to pick a topic and go at it kid? Just you and me. Go. I don't have all night.

chicago510;1177067 wrote:A guy that goes 0/6 with 4 Ks and 5 errors can make the front page too. Getting attention doesn't make you Babe Ruth (although you probably went to HS with him).

Ha...just admit it there Sleuth....I own you and your circle jerk buds here. 200 plus posts from the 20 somethings...all because I didn't know the correct spelling of a player's name. I rest my case.

pnhasbeen;1177073 wrote:Wedgie, why didn't you comment on me correcting that minor error?

Tribe averages 4.39 runs a game and Ubaldo has been the beneficiary of 5.375 runs per game.

Wedgie, why does Masterson have a 5.04 ERA?

Footwedge;1177075 wrote:Kudos to you sir for manning up. However, calling it a "minor error" is a reach. At least you admitted your mistake.

Footwedge;1177079 wrote:Tribe averages 4.39 runs a game and Ubaldo has been the beneficiary of 5.375 runs per game.

Again, take out the two outliers wedgie. They hurt averages.

hoops23;1177111 wrote:Wedgie, why does Masterson have a 5.04 ERA?

Because that's what the math says? BTW, in case you or Schlep134 wants to know, Ubaldo receives 22.3% more run support than the tribe average. The actual average is even lower if Ubaldo's numbers were subsetted out of the picture. So, in other words, Ubaldo has received more than a full run per start in support versus the rest of the staff.

Poor Schlep...he'll have his calculator out till 4 in the morning trying to figure it out..

Now, back to Masterson. So far, he's having a poor year. His ERA is still above the Ubaldo line which is not good. But here's the difference. We gave up 2 potential aces with the emphasis on potential. We gave up Victor for Haggedone and Masterson. That...was a good trade. Victor is not even with Boston...and...he's on the DL. As much as I liked Victor, he was a horrible liability behind the plate and on the bases.

I'm not happy with Masterson this year. Who is? But the trade we made last year is hard for me to accept. I expect Masterson to turn it around.

pnhasbeen;1177135 wrote:Again, take out the two outliers wedgie. They hurt averages.

I know what you're sayin', but not gonna do that. When calculating ERA's, nobody gets a mulligan. Conversely, when a batter goes o-fer 9 in a DH, he doesn't get a mulligan either.

Footwedge;1177076 wrote:You want to pick a topic and go at it kid? Just you and me. Go. I don't have all night.

Where you at Dead Warrior? All mouth but no action.

*crickets, crickets, crickets*

Footwedge;1177138 wrote:I know what you're sayin', but not gonna do that. When calculating ERA's, nobody gets a mulligan. Conversely, when a batter goes o-fer 9 in a DH, he doesn't get a mulligan either.

If you don't want to do that then using an average for run support isn't very significant.

Footwedge;1177140 wrote:Where you at Dead Warrior? All mouth but no action.

*crickets, crickets, crickets*

Allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there.

Lmao

DeadliestWarrior34;1177143 wrote:Allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there.

Why did you present the question and ask for people's thoughts only to get upset and defensive when people post their thoughts?