mcburg93;1116149 wrote:yes master sorry I expressed my thoughts will never do it again.

DeyDurkie5;1116141 wrote:If the guy didn't fucking shoot him he would still he alive. how hard is that to understand you dumbfuck?

mcburg93;1116154 wrote:In my best LJ voice learn english boy.

LJ;1115850 wrote:Because of stand your ground and castle doctrines, it's harder and harder for an instigator to prove self defense. Because these laws allow you to protect yourself in any means ness., someone who instigates a situation isn't going to get the benefit of the doubt.

mcburg93;1116122 wrote:The kid ran making the guy with the gun jumpy in his mind the kid is doing something wrong, obviously the kid did nothing wrong now that we know the story. But at the time the guy prolly full of adrenaline and excited cause he has some authority thinks the kid did something wrong. Gives chase wrestles with the kid then shoots him. The kid did nothing wrong he just provoked this guy. The guy should be guilty of murder in some sort.

LJ;1116153 wrote:Maybe you shouldn't use bad grammar. We might be so inclined to ban you, because using bad grammar makes us think you are a troll.

/mcburg

mcburg93;1116143 wrote:http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?31559-Cut-out-the-personal-attacks-and-over-the-top-name-calling

mcburg93;1116146 wrote:Wow really I express my thoughts and get all this.

mcburg93;1116149 wrote:yes master sorry I expressed my thoughts will never do it again.

mcburg93;1116140 wrote:I did read the rules what warranted the attack by you cause I dont have the education of you? Sorry fella just like I see on all other threads if you dont agree with the "friends" look out were gonna get you.

mcburg93;1116135 wrote:I understand he has no authority. He was told by the cops to stay in his car but he didnt. I don't see whats so difficult to understand what I'm saying. If the kid stands still he would still be a live. Its not the kids fault he did what kids do by running.

mcburg93;1116127 wrote:http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?31559-Cut-out-the-personal-attacks-and-over-the-top-name-calling

mcburg93;1116154 wrote:In my best LJ voice learn english boy.

mcburg93;1116161 wrote:If bad grammar is gonna get me banned you better ban the whole site.

Fly4Fun;1116160 wrote:The laws don't allow you to protect yourself with any means necessary. For deadly force there has to be an objective and subjective threat of death or serious bodily injury. However, there are state laws that do modify it for situations like in your home (castle doctrines as you mentioned) but those vary drastically from state to state. For example in Florida I believe you can just pretty much shoot any intruder, even if he is on his way out.



Every mod with the ability should Neg Mcburg as you are either racist or an idiot.

I'm sorry, but if I'm a 17 year old kid and I'm minding my own business walking home in the dark, and some adult starts coming after me or following me I would most likely start walking faster and eventually run, and if I get caught, I'm sure as hell going to fight.

There is nothing to justify what this man did. From the OP's article and CNN article, I think some real investigation is necessary (the one Witnesses comment about the boy calling for help but police officer correcting her saying it was Zimmerman). And I really doubt self-defense holds up. And if it does, it's a damn shame. The police believe a person can pretty much just shoot a black kid in a white neighboorhood and call it self defense? If that holds up, I'm ashamed to be an American.

Fly4Fun;1116160 wrote:The laws don't allow you to protect yourself with any means necessary. For deadly force there has to be an objective and subjective threat of death or serious bodily injury. However, there are state laws that do modify it for situations like in your home (castle doctrines as you mentioned) but those vary drastically from state to state. For example in Florida I believe you can just pretty much shoot any intruder, even if he is on his way out.

person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

mcburg93;1116161 wrote:If bad grammar is gonna get me banned you better ban the whole site.

mcburg93;1116166 wrote:Im not disagreeing with any of this. I completely agree with you. All Im saying had the boy not run or even talked to the guy from a distance none of this wouldve happened and the kid would be alive. Its a tragic thing that happened I would prolly be just like the kid dead. Cause I wouldve run and fought back. Hindsight being 20/20 Had the kid not run he would prolly still be here.

LJ;1116167 wrote:A lot of southern states have Stand your Ground laws that apply to public places. Basically makes your "castle" your personal space everywhere you go.

Florida's version

justincredible;1116170 wrote:Hindsight being 20/20 had the guy just stayed in his car like he was told the kid would still be here. You keep going back to the kid running as the reason he is dead. That is not the reason he is dead. He is dead because some jackass overstepped his authority and shot him for no fucking reason.

justincredible;1116170 wrote:Hindsight being 20/20 had the guy just stayed in his car like he was told the kid would still be here. You keep going back to the kid running as the reason he is dead. That is not the reason he is dead. He is dead because some jackass overstepped his authority and shot him for no fucking reason.

justincredible;1116170 wrote:Hindsight being 20/20 had the guy just stayed in his car like he was told the kid would still be here. You keep going back to the kid running as the reason he is dead. That is not the reason he is dead. He is dead because some jackass overstepped his authority and shot him for no fucking reason.

mcburg93;1116175 wrote: He definitely shouldn't of had a gun.

LJ;1116180 wrote:Why not?

Mine is on my hip right now.

mcburg93;1116175 wrote:The kid did nothing wrong. I agree with everything thats been said about the guy. He needs prosecuted to the full extent of the law. He shouldve never got out of his car. He shouldve never pursued the kid. He definitely shouldn't of had a gun.

mcburg93;1116182 wrote:Mines on my hip too.

mcburg93;1116175 wrote:The kid did nothing wrong.

LJ;1116180 wrote:Why not?

Mine is on my hip right now.

Automatik;1116188 wrote:

Mooney44Cards;1116185 wrote:If he is innocent, he has no duty to do anything but reasonably protect himself. He did this by running. It was the right thing to do.

Also, what makes you think that if he didn't run he wouldn't have gotten shot? This guy was quoted as saying "these assholes always get away" before he even confronted the kid. He obviously thought the kid was guilty before he started running so he might have shot him anyways. You saying "if he didn't run, he wouldn't be dead" is not just stupid, it's plain wrong.