dlazz;1108582 wrote:I priced it out on a few different websites. The "true market" price for the car is about 19500, they knocked it down to $16685.

Bio-Hazzzzard;1108599 wrote:Keep in mind that this car is a calender year and a half of new and this is the type of car that you can land the best deal on. The dealers call this "lot rot" and will bend over backwards to get rid of them. Salesman love to be the one to sell this type of car, sort of an ego thing that they finally got rid of it.

Lot rot is the best deal going for sure.

justincredible;1108016 wrote:I wouldn't recommend a lease unless you want a new car every so many years and, like zwick said, want a car payment always.

dlazz;1108454 wrote:A new clutch is going to be in the 700-800 ballpark, so halfish of a down payment on something else.

The car is a 99, so it's getting up there in age.

I drove a Fiesta today and it was just alright. The dealer is losing on the deal because they are tired of seeing it (it's the only new 2011 Fiesta on the lot).

The pro is that it is affordable.

hoops23;1108642 wrote:If it's just "alright" to you then don't even think about it. If you're making the commitment to buy a new car and make monthly payments on it for a handful of years, you want to buy something that you REALLY want.

dlazz;1108007 wrote:Might lease it instead. Anyone have experience with that?

rydawg5;1108634 wrote:Only because there is usually an nice "mini" attached to it. The thing is, why not start going to Walmart and ask for the invoice of the T-shirt you are about to buy. There is no problem with letting someone who spent 3 hours of their time with you profit $300-500. It was probably the only car they'll sell for 1-3 days. Translating into about $100/day (big whoop). Being a jackass about it "like true car wants you to be" would have salesman working 60hrs/week for about $300/week. That's what your goal is? To have someone spend 3 hours with you showing you the ins and outs of a car that you'll own for the next 5-7 years ... give him enough profit so he can qualify for WIC, Food stamps, Medicaid, etc? Sheesh.

rydawg5;1108634 wrote:Only because there is usually an nice "mini" attached to it. The thing is, why not start going to Walmart and ask for the invoice of the T-shirt you are about to buy. There is no problem with letting someone who spent 3 hours of their time with you profit $300-500. It was probably the only car they'll sell for 1-3 days. Translating into about $100/day (big whoop). Being a jackass about it "like true car wants you to be" would have salesman working 60hrs/week for about $300/week. That's what your goal is? To have someone spend 3 hours with you showing you the ins and outs of a car that you'll own for the next 5-7 years ... give him enough profit so he can qualify for WIC, Food stamps, Medicaid, etc? Sheesh.

Bio-Hazzzzard;1108669 wrote:So you pay full sticker?

I sold cars and it is most common to get the mini which is about $150 per car. A salesman would rather sell more cars at a mini and spend less time with the customer to reach a bonus at the end of the month. It is a fact that I never believed until I sold cars for a living, that bonus is much more valuable than one single sale at a time. I've been there and it's all about the bonus (units sold) and not about an individual sale.

rydawg5;1108674 wrote:The average car salesman sells 8-10 cars a month. If most of his deals are "$150 minis" - then you are telling me he is working 60/hours a week for $1200-$1500 month. Hitting the "10 car bonus" which is $250-$500. (If survey scores are good enough, he'll bang out $1450-2000 month. He probably worked 50-60 hours a week. So, an average salemen (not below average) is making about $7.25/hr to 8/hr for the 200 to 250 hours spent working a month.

rydawg5;1108674 wrote:The average car salesman sells 8-10 cars a month. If most of his deals are "$150 minis" - then you are telling me he is working 60/hours a week for $1200-$1500 month. Hitting the "10 car bonus" which is $250-$500. (If survey scores are good enough, he'll bang out $1450-2000 month. He probably worked 50-60 hours a week. So, an average salemen (not below average) is making about $7.25/hr to 8/hr for the 200 to 250 hours spent working a month.

rydawg5;1108674 wrote:The average car salesman sells 8-10 cars a month. If most of his deals are "$150 minis" - then you are telling me he is working 60/hours a week for $1200-$1500 month. Hitting the "10 car bonus" which is $250-$500. (If survey scores are good enough, he'll bang out $1450-2000 month. He probably worked 50-60 hours a week. So, an average salemen (not below average) is making about $7.25/hr to 8/hr for the 200 to 250 hours spent working a month.

hoops23;1108689 wrote:No offense to any car salesman, but why is that my problem? If you feel this way, why don't you go and just hand your local car salesman some "money on the side" each week?

rydawg5;1108705 wrote:It's not your problem, but everyone seems to think that car salesmen are "robbing you blind" when you walk on a lot. They are obviously barely getting by. Why the bad rep and disdain for them?

When you go out to eat do you tip? Why? It's not your problem, they are in the wrong profession?

dlazz;1108454 wrote:A new clutch is going to be in the 700-800 ballpark.

Mulva;1108668 wrote:I'm leasing a 2012 Elantra right now. Nice car. Great value for the price. Just got it last month.

rydawg5;1108641 wrote:Interesting you say that. You have a 2009 you are thinking of getting rid of because of "tech stuff"? You'd have to assume a 2015 model would get you to want to buy for the same reasoning in 3 years? Therefore, maybe leasing would be the better option.

justincredible;1108908 wrote:And like I also said, I'm thinking of trading in but chances are I won't. So...

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justincredible;1108954 wrote:No, website idea.

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dlazz;1109471 wrote:I am the proud owner of a 2012 Hyundai Elantra.