GSP got absolutely blasted by Matt Serra and he couldn't wait to fight him again, why would he be scared to fight someone who he hasn't lost to?

Pointing to GSP wanting to fight Serra is laughable. Serra was the buster douglas of MMA (Granted he did also beat Lytle on TUF). He got one great punch jumped on GSP and finished him. Why wouldnt he want to revenge a loss to a guy who happened to catch his lucky punch.

Silva has moved up and dominated his fights at 205.

http://www.heavy.com/mma/ufc/2011/09/simplifying-the-nick-diaz-situation/

robj55;888264 wrote:All MMa fights are exciting to me, it's literally the only sport where my heart starts pounding just watching it, intense!

I can agree to this lol.

As for exciting fighters not named Brock and by weight class (UFC):

-JDS
-Cain
-Mark Hunt

-Bonnar
-Rampage
-JJ
-T. Silva
-Shogun

-A. Silva
-Leben
-Stann
-Sonnen
-Belcher
-W. Silva
-D. Miller
-Palhares

-Sanchez
-Alves
-Serra
-Condit
-Diaz
-Kampmann
-Hardy
-Thiago
-R. McDonald
-Akiyama

-Guillard
-Cerrone
-Siver
-J. Miller
-Stephens
-Siver
-Lauzon
-Benderson
-Pettis
-Dunham
-Gomi

-Aldo
-Hominick
-Grispi
-Korean Zombie

I personally don't find watching Bantamweights exciting.

jmog;888586 wrote:If you think Jon Jones only was exciting in his last fight you need to watch more fights. He has yet to have a boring fight in the UFC. He destroyed Stephan Bonnar even though it went to decision. He broke Vera's orbital bone. He absolutely destroyed Matyushenko. He hammered Bader in the standup in rd 1 and then submitted him in rd 2. He then destroyed Shogun.

Please don't say he has only had 1 exciting fight, that shows you haven't watched this guy. What's next, Shogun or Cro Cop didn't have any exciting fights in Pride?

I have seen all of his fights in the UFC and even ones before he signed with the organization, since you know so much about me what sign am I?

jmog;888586 wrote:If you think Jon Jones only was exciting in his last fight you need to watch more fights. He has yet to have a boring fight in the UFC. He destroyed Stephan Bonnar even though it went to decision. He broke Vera's orbital bone. He absolutely destroyed Matyushenko. He hammered Bader in the standup in rd 1 and then submitted him in rd 2. He then destroyed Shogun.

Please don't say he has only had 1 exciting fight, that shows you haven't watched this guy. What's next, Shogun or Cro Cop didn't have any exciting fights in Pride?

The Bader fight wasn't exciting. The reason I say has the chance to be is because he is so young into his career. I didn't mean to base it all off of his last fight but that was his most exciting.

jmog;888592 wrote:Oh come on...

Paulo Thiago
Diego Sanchez
Luigi Fioravanti
Brock Larson

Just because you haven't heard of them, doesn't mean that AT THE TIME of the fight they weren't top 10 WWs.

Paulo Thiago is a decent win, Diego is a good win, Luigi and Larson are decent wins. I can name a shit ton of top UFC talent that he hasn't faced or beaten. Also look at how he won those fights. Knocking someone out or submitting them is way more impressive than taking someone down and lay and praying them. Fitch is a great wrestler but he is not a great fighter.

WW is way better than MW imo, not even close.

^^^Yep.

sportchampps;888595 wrote:GSP is scared to fight Silva as well. The closest he came to taking the fight was when Silva had the three or four matches where he looked beatable. As soon as Silva started to look good again GSP went back to now isnt the time in his career. He will not be willing to fight Silva until Silva looks old/beatable. GSP is in a poor weight class and isnt eager to prove his skills beyond that class. Other fighters have went up such as Penn, Silva, and Rua why cant GSP.

1. Proof that GSP is scared?
2. 185 isn't any better of a weight class, but who knows for sure to be honest. Anytime someone cleans out a division people always say the division is weak. We tend to think that LHW is amazingly stacked because the title changes names almost every title fight and WW and MW are weak because GSP and ASilva has no competition. Maybe GSP and Silva are both just that freaking good and their divisions are actually pretty tough? Maybe, maybe not, just a thought to ponder.

So what is the deal with Diaz? Does he really have some kind of disorder or is he just one of those guys who likes to say fuck the establishment and do what he wants?

robj55;888620 wrote:Paulo Thiago is a decent win, Diego is a good win, Luigi and Larson are decent wins. I can name a **** ton of top UFC talent that he hasn't faced or beaten. Also look at how he won those fights. Knocking someone out or submitting them is way more impressive than taking someone down and lay and praying them. Fitch is a great wrestler but he is not a great fighter.

I agree with you 100% that Fitch is NOT an exciting fighter, but if he is not a great fighter then someone on that list not named GSP should be able to beat him no?

robj55;888619 wrote:The Bader fight wasn't exciting. The reason I say has the chance to be is because he is so young into his career. I didn't mean to base it all off of his last fight but that was his most exciting.

What about Bonnar? Matyushenko? Hammil? You can't say those fights weren't exciting?

I think the hammill fight was his least exciting fight. Jones is one of the few mma stars who could probably compete in other pro sports. His athletic ability is amazing to watch. If you don't think spinning back fist and elbows are exciting I guess I can se your point. Of his 13 wins only 2 have went to the judges. How was the bader fight not exciting because he dominated a previously unbeaten fighter. everyone noticed jones as he went up the ranks because of how exciting he was.

jmog;888976 wrote:What about Bonnar? Matyushenko? Hammil? You can't say those fights weren't exciting?

No they were, just saying that the Shogun fight was his most exciting, the Bonna fight was the closest fight he has had with Bones only outstriking him by 8, but he took him down at will.

jmog;888975 wrote:I agree with you 100% that Fitch is NOT an exciting fighter, but if he is not a great fighter then someone on that list not named GSP should be able to beat him no?

We all know that wrestling is the most dominant martial art under the unified rules, great wrestlers can dictate where the fight takes place and Fitch is great at that.

bigdaddy2003;888974 wrote:So what is the deal with Diaz? Does he really have some kind of disorder or is he just one of those guys who likes to say **** the establishment and do what he wants?

Yes and yes to both lol

jmog;888971 wrote:1. Proof that GSP is scared?
2. 185 isn't any better of a weight class, but who knows for sure to be honest. Anytime someone cleans out a division people always say the division is weak. We tend to think that LHW is amazingly stacked because the title changes names almost every title fight and WW and MW are weak because GSP and ASilva has no competition. Maybe GSP and Silva are both just that freaking good and their divisions are actually pretty tough? Maybe, maybe not, just a thought to ponder.

Good point on the dominance of the division. LHW is my favorite division because of the parity and the fact that any of the top guys can beat each other basically. I think WW is way deeper than MW and that is why I like that division more.

robj55;889096 wrote:Yes and yes to both lol

Problem for Diaz then is that he will have to do promos for the BJ fight. I can't judge him because I don't know what it's like to have an anxiety disorder but he is going to miss out on the biggest fight of his career. If he loses to BJ which he very well could then the GSP fight loses a lot of the hype.

bigdaddy2003;889104 wrote:Problem for Diaz then is that he will have to do promos for the BJ fight. I can't judge him because I don't know what it's like to have an anxiety disorder but he is going to miss out on the biggest fight of his career. If he loses to BJ which he very well could then the GSP fight loses a lot of the hype.

I agree, no reason not to suck it up and do the press conference. It's pure comedy what he says anyway so we as fans are missing out.

robj55;889094 wrote:We all know that wrestling is the most dominant martial art under the unified rules, great wrestlers can dictate where the fight takes place and Fitch is great at that.

Then the fighters who you believe to be better than him should learn A-better takedown defense, B-how to scramble back up, and C-a great submission game off their back.

No offense, but even in a real fight, if I get someone down and hold them down, while myself never being in trouble of any harm, until the authorities show up, I definitely didn't "lose" the fight, and I probably won, did I not?

Wrestling most certainly is a huge part of MMA and I do believe the biggest problem right now is that the judging assumes you are winning if you are on top. I would agree with this if the guy on bottom is doing nothing as well. However, if the guy on bottom is throwing up multiple submission attempts and nearly locking in some of them all while the guy on top is just laying there, then the guy on bottom should win that round. By definition of the unified rules he should as well, but the judges are retards for the most part.

I don't see the lay n pray automatically winning a round a problem with the rules, I see it a problem due to the judging.

robj55;889099 wrote:Good point on the dominance of the division. LHW is my favorite division because of the parity and the fact that any of the top guys can beat each other basically. I think WW is way deeper than MW and that is why I like that division more.

I agree that WW is definitely more stacked than MW.

I look at the divisions and their overall competition ranking like this...

LHW
LW
WW
HW
FW
MW
BW

I put BW at the bottom for 2 reasons, I honestly don't know as much about the division but there seems to only be a couple really top tier guys (Cruz, Faber, etc) and then after that its dead. No offense to them, but sorry, 135 is just more like a woman's size division, there aren't many extremely athletic (when it comes to contact type sports) men that size.

I mean look at realistically the smallest decent players in the major sports.

MLB-David Eckstein (and some others) 5'6" 170 lbs
NFL-Darren Sproles 5'6" 190 lbs
NBA-Earl Boykins 5'5" 135 lbs (ok, got one there )

The point is that there just aren't many excellent male athletes at 135.

robj55;889108 wrote:I agree, no reason not to suck it up and do the press conference. It's pure comedy what he says anyway so we as fans are missing out.

Yeah, we are missing out on the comedy and the fight most of all. It sucks because I really think he could pull off a W against GSP.

jmog;889110 wrote:Then the fighters who you believe to be better than him should learn A-better takedown defense, B-how to scramble back up, and C-a great submission game off their back.

No offense, but even in a real fight, if I get someone down and hold them down, while myself never being in trouble of any harm, until the authorities show up, I definitely didn't "lose" the fight, and I probably won, did I not?

Wrestling most certainly is a huge part of MMA and I do believe the biggest problem right now is that the judging assumes you are winning if you are on top. I would agree with this if the guy on bottom is doing nothing as well. However, if the guy on bottom is throwing up multiple submission attempts and nearly locking in some of them all while the guy on top is just laying there, then the guy on bottom should win that round. By definition of the unified rules he should as well, but the judges are retards for the most part.

I don't see the lay n pray automatically winning a round a problem with the rules, I see it a problem due to the judging.

The unified rules can be discussed at length, some people love them and others like me have a problem with them. I understand full what you are saying and if you can't stop a take down or sweep someone to get up then that's not your opponents fault. As for the bold part, the Miguel Torres/ Demetrious Johnson fight is a prime example of that. They will never give someone a decision if they are on their back even if they are more active and winning the fight.

The best example of lay and pray was guida vs showtime