Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 23, 2012 12:37am
It would be a crime if Eli won more titles than Peyton. Mostly because Peyton is the way better QB, and partly because fuck him.
hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Jan 23, 2012 1:07am
BearBoy69;1062754 wrote:Pats by 14
BearBoy69;1062759 wrote:on the topics of who's right and who's wrong i picked NE to win over BAL by 17. i was wrong about the score, BUT i still was right about them winning.
That's what I was thinking.Laley23;1062798 wrote:What happend to by 24. Did that go away when the Ravens didnt lose by the 17 you predicted
You said: "Pats by 17 and G-Men by 24"
This tells me you know nothing about either of the four teams.
You said: "and No D can stop Brady right now. "
The Ravens absolutely stopped Tom Brady today. You overestimated the Patriots.
And it all started with this gem: "and the shoe in super bowl champs"
shoe in? so laughable. The "shoe-ins" about put on the wrong pair of cleats.
I'm going with the New York Football Giants to go against BearBoy. However, if the Patriots win I won't be surprised. They are a good team. They are not, however, a team that is so much better than every other team. They won't blow them out.
BearBoy69
Posts: 291
Jan 23, 2012 2:04am
okay maybe i overestimated them by a lot, i'll man up and admit it. you were right, they were not a shoe in. I got too happy and didnt think before i typed. To conclude i was being ignorant you were right and i was wrong. Please forgive me? 
hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Jan 23, 2012 11:20am
BearBoy69;1062827 wrote:okay maybe i overestimated them by a lot, i'll man up and admit it. you were right, they were not a shoe in. I got too happy and didnt think before i typed. To conclude i was being ignorant you were right and i was wrong. Please forgive me?
With that said, I want to see Tom Bradt lead the patriots 80 yards fire the go ahead score with 1:30 on the clock and then eli goes down and ends it.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jan 23, 2012 3:28pm
Motherfucking Super Bowl
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Jan 23, 2012 3:39pm
I don't know how the patriots D will cover Nicks, Cruz, Manningham, and Ballard. I know the game during the regular season was close but NY is looking really good right now. Just hoping it's not a repeat of 2007.
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MontyBrunswick
Jan 23, 2012 3:42pm
Eli Manning is well overdue for a piss-poor performance. I can see him having a multiple turnover game against the Patriots.
NE: 35
NYG: 17
NE: 35
NYG: 17
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Jan 23, 2012 4:00pm
The Giants are the lesser of two evils. I'll be rooting hard for them while trying not to vomit.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Jan 23, 2012 4:44pm
loljustincredible;1063281 wrote:The Giants are the lesser of two evils. I'll be rooting hard for them while trying not to vomit.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jan 23, 2012 4:48pm
lol...this is great.gorocks99;1063255 wrote:Motherfucking Super Bowl
Pats get revenge. 31-20
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 23, 2012 5:14pm
Eli has really been in beast mode this year. Easily proved himself worthy of what he said earlier this year (which was blown completely out of proportion anyway).
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
Jan 23, 2012 5:26pm
My first instinct was that the Giants would win because their WR's are so superior to the Patriots DB's. The Giants won the regular season match up in Foxborough, and they didn't even have Nicks.
I think it'll be a great game though. Could easily see it going either way.
I think it'll be a great game though. Could easily see it going either way.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 23, 2012 5:27pm
Eli throws slant routes that his ridiculous receivers turn into 80 yards. He's good, but he's not top 5 good. He benefits from a really, really good WR group more than anyone in the NFL.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 23, 2012 5:30pm
That is going way overboard. His WRs arent THAT good. Ballard is not a top TE. His RBs arent tops in the league.SportsAndLady;1063354 wrote:Eli throws slant routes that his ridiculous receivers turn into 80 yards. He's good, but he's not top 5 good. He benefits from a really, really good WR group more than anyone in the NFL.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 23, 2012 5:52pm
I watched at least 10 Giants games this year, my fuckin roommate loved them. His stats are seriously inflated by ridiculous runs after the catch, (see:Cruz 99 yard TD). I thought I read the other day that no team has more YAC than the Giants.Laley23;1063358 wrote:That is going way overboard. His WRs arent THAT good. Ballard is not a top TE. His RBs arent tops in the league.
And what does Bradshaw and Jacobs have to do w/ what I said? Bradshaw is pretty good at catching balls out of the backfield. There aren't many teams that can do better than Cruz, Nicks, Manningham
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 23, 2012 7:20pm
Good thing you moved out, that would be pretty damn annoying.SportsAndLady;1063371 wrote:I watched at least 10 Giants games this year, my fuckin roommate loved them. His stats are seriously inflated by ridiculous runs after the catch, (see:Cruz 99 yard TD). I thought I read the other day that no team has more YAC than the Giants.
And what does Bradshaw and Jacobs have to do w/ what I said? Bradshaw is pretty good at catching balls out of the backfield. There aren't many teams that can do better than Cruz, Nicks, Manningham
I have the Giants in a close one. I think just like the last SB, that D Line keeps Brady uncomfortable.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 23, 2012 10:46pm
Offensive weapons which would help the running game (Bradshaw and Jacobs).SportsAndLady;1063371 wrote:I watched at least 10 Giants games this year, my fuckin roommate loved them. His stats are seriously inflated by ridiculous runs after the catch, (see:Cruz 99 yard TD). I thought I read the other day that no team has more YAC than the Giants.
And what does Bradshaw and Jacobs have to do w/ what I said? Bradshaw is pretty good at catching balls out of the backfield. There aren't many teams that can do better than Cruz, Nicks, Manningham
I dont care how many YACs they had. It would have to be astronomical to not give a guy who threw for nearly 5k yards, 29 TDs and only 16 INTs. Sorry, but he was awesome this year. Something like 13 4th Q tds or something. I would say he was easily the most clutch QB, with the most go ahead drives etc.
You are hatin' cause you hated your roommate. Understandable...but incorrect.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 23, 2012 10:48pm
And for what its worth, the guys who threw for more yards;
Brees
Brady
Rodgers
Only Brady has a WR corps who you could say isnt as good as the NYG. Saints and GB are better. Even the Pats have the arguably the 2 best if you take each teams top 4 (Welker and Gronk).
Brees
Brady
Rodgers
Only Brady has a WR corps who you could say isnt as good as the NYG. Saints and GB are better. Even the Pats have the arguably the 2 best if you take each teams top 4 (Welker and Gronk).
BearBoy69
Posts: 291
Jan 23, 2012 10:51pm
Nobody beats the pats 2 times in 1 season. I just don't want to see Eli have more super bowls than Peyton.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 23, 2012 10:52pm
I'm not saying he didn't have a really good year...he obviously did. But the Giants' D-line and WR's are just as much a part of their success as Manning was. If you've watched Giants games this year, you'd notice he'd throw a 15 yard slant route that would go for 80 yards. Hell look at the Falcons playoff game, throws a simple pass to Nicks who turns it into an 80 yard TD. Another one in the Packers playoff game, I believe. I didn't watch most of the Niners game as I was traveling.Laley23;1063545 wrote:Offensive weapons which would help the running game (Bradshaw and Jacobs).
I dont care how many YACs they had. It would have to be astronomical to not give a guy who threw for nearly 5k yards, 29 TDs and only 16 INTs. Sorry, but he was awesome this year. Something like 13 4th Q tds or something. I would say he was easily the most clutch QB, with the most go ahead drives etc.
You are hatin' cause you hated your roommate. Understandable...but incorrect.
Look, he's really good..a top 7 QB. But he's not "elite" he's just really, really good.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 23, 2012 10:55pm
See I disagree. Greg Jennings is the only really good WR on the Packers, the others just benefit from Rodgers. Whereas, Manning benefits from his WRs. Saints...again, who is better than Cruz, Nicks, and Manningham? Colston? Henderson? Moore? I'd maybe take Colston over Manningham, but that's about it.Laley23;1063551 wrote:And for what its worth, the guys who threw for more yards;
Brees
Brady
Rodgers
Only Brady has a WR corps who you could say isnt as good as the NYG. Saints and GB are better. Even the Pats have the arguably the 2 best if you take each teams top 4 (Welker and Gronk).
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Jan 23, 2012 10:58pm
SportsAndLady;1063560 wrote:I'm not saying he didn't have a really good year...he obviously did. But the Giants' D-line and WR's are just as much a part of their success as Manning was. If you've watched Giants games this year, you'd notice he'd throw a 15 yard slant route that would go for 80 yards. Hell look at the Falcons playoff game, throws a simple pass to Nicks who turns it into an 80 yard TD. Another one in the Packers playoff game, I believe. I didn't watch most of the Niners game as I was traveling.
Look, he's really good..a top 7 QB. But he's not "elite" he's just really, really good.
Eli has won 5 straight Road Playoff games and is going to his 2nd Super Bowl with a wild card team. He is a top 5 QB in the NFL. The dude is Elite give it up.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 23, 2012 11:08pm
Skyhook says he's elite, now I must give upSkyhook79;1063565 wrote:Eli has won 5 straight Road Playoff games and is going to his 2nd Super Bowl with a wild card team. He is a top 5 QB in the NFL. The dude is Elite give it up.
Cuz it's not like being elite is of opinion or anything...
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 23, 2012 11:11pm
We will just agree to disagree. But first the YAC yards for the top WR/TE/RB on the Pack, Pats, Lions, NYG and Saints.SportsAndLady;1063560 wrote:I'm not saying he didn't have a really good year...he obviously did. But the Giants' D-line and WR's are just as much a part of their success as Manning was. If you've watched Giants games this year, you'd notice he'd throw a 15 yard slant route that would go for 80 yards. Hell look at the Falcons playoff game, throws a simple pass to Nicks who turns it into an 80 yard TD. Another one in the Packers playoff game, I believe. I didn't watch most of the Niners game as I was traveling.
Look, he's really good..a top 7 QB. But he's not "elite" he's just really, really good.
New England
Welker -732 (lead league)
Gronk - 656 (4th)
Hernandez - 519 (9th)
Branch - 332 (40th)
Detroit
Megatron - 524 (8th)
Burleson - 406 (24th)
Pettigrew - 324 (44th)
Best - 287 (58th)
New York Giants
Cruz - 595 (6th)
Nicks - 362 (32nd)
Bradshaw - 306 (52nd)
New Orleans
Sproles - 703 (2nd)
Pierre Thomes - 482 (15th)
Graham - 469 (17th)
Colston - 265 (66th)
Green Bay
Nelson - 429 (21st)
Jennings - 309 (51st)
Jones - 285 (59th)
Starks - 279 (61st)
Grant - 276 (63rd)
Finley - 239 (76th)
...I stopped at 80.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 23, 2012 11:13pm
Yeah, but why is Cruz making Manningham....but Brees is making Lance Moore or Rodgers making James Jones? Cant be one way for one team and not the same for the other.SportsAndLady;1063562 wrote:See I disagree. Greg Jennings is the only really good WR on the Packers, the others just benefit from Rodgers. Whereas, Manning benefits from his WRs. Saints...again, who is better than Cruz, Nicks, and Manningham? Colston? Henderson? Moore? I'd maybe take Colston over Manningham, but that's about it.