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Jan 23, 2012 8:57 PM
pnhasbeen;1063495 wrote:How many college stars don't pan out to be nfl contributors? Another question, how many ELITE nfl qbs are back ups, released, back up in the cfl, and then get resigned as a back up?
Troy is unique in the sense he's undervalued. I have good sources that tell me Troy wanted to play for Omaha for a couple years to hone his skills. Now he wants a superbowl and he will get one. Book it.
Jan 23, 2012 8:57pm
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Jan 23, 2012 11:50 PM
sleeper;1063514 wrote:Troy is unique in the sense he's undervalued. I have good sources that tell me Troy wanted to play for Omaha for a couple years to hone his skills. Now he wants a superbowl and he will get one. Book it.

he went to omaha to hone his skills as a back up? Makes sense.

If he does get a super bowl ring he'll be holding the clipboard. Book it.
Jan 23, 2012 11:50pm
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Jan 24, 2012 12:58 AM
pnhasbeen;1063617 wrote:he went to omaha to hone his skills as a back up? Makes sense.

If he does get a super bowl ring he'll be holding the clipboard. Book it.
Even so, counts the same as the SuperBowl MVPs rings. Like I said, how does it feel to be wrong?
Jan 24, 2012 12:58am
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Jan 24, 2012 1:13 AM
sleeper;1063675 wrote:Even so, counts the same as the SuperBowl MVPs rings. Like I said, how does it feel to be wrong?

How am I wrong? He isn't a super bowl winner. He isn't a starter. Hell, you're the one going from elite to it being okay as the clipboard holder.

In fact, with your logic Tim Tebow is better than Troy Smith.

You said Smith is a leader. Tebow has PROVEN to be one.

Intangibles? That's what Tebow lives on.

Heisman? Tebows got one of them.

National Championship? Troy can only dream.

Now, you're sleeper so you'll come back with some lame attempt at a retort, but it'll all be in vain.

Book it.
Jan 24, 2012 1:13am
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Jan 24, 2012 5:03 AM
sleeper;1063481 wrote:Troy sets the standard for the word elite. He's probably got a picture of himself next to "elite" in the dictionary.

Just because he's only 6' doesn't mean he's not a top ten QB, when healthy. Look no further than Drew Brees for a shining example of what a non-heisman short guy can do. They don't just hand the Heisman to any bum off the street.
Too funny. You've gone beyond ridiculous this time.
Jan 24, 2012 5:03am
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Jan 24, 2012 11:04 AM
BR1986FB;1063723 wrote:Too funny. You've gone beyond ridiculous this time.
lol he's trying way too hard.

The funny thing is people actually take him seriously.
Jan 24, 2012 11:04am
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Jan 24, 2012 11:47 AM
Troy Smith would have been a good pickup for the Denver Broncos (if Tebow were to ever go down, I would think that Smith could step in and run a similar offense).
Jan 24, 2012 11:47am
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Jan 24, 2012 12:26 PM
Automatik;1063902 wrote:lol he's trying way too hard.

The funny thing is people actually take him seriously.

Yes. One of my favorite things about the OC is to see what sleeper has gotten someone to argue about next.
Jan 24, 2012 12:26pm
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Jan 24, 2012 12:32 PM
Scarlet_Buckeye;1063952 wrote:Troy Smith would have been a good pickup for the Denver Broncos (if Tebow were to ever go down, I would think that Smith could step in and run a similar offense).
I agree to an extent.

The "rumor" about Smith as previously stated is that he gets a lot of locker room support to be the QB. So he has to be somewhere with a clearly entrenched franchise QB, either that or expect some locker room divide in the future. While he could possibly run the Bronco's system, he could possibly create a divided locker room. And Tebow only did as well as he did because the TEAM was playing great. That could change with a divided team.
Jan 24, 2012 12:32pm
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Jan 24, 2012 12:46 PM
Fly4Fun;1064019 wrote:I agree to an extent.

The "rumor" about Smith as previously stated is that he gets a lot of locker room support to be the QB. So he has to be somewhere with a clearly entrenched franchise QB, either that or expect some locker room divide in the future. While he could possibly run the Bronco's system, he could possibly create a divided locker room. And Tebow only did as well as he did because the TEAM was playing great. That could change with a divided team.
That's what I'd think, based on that rumor. If the team struggles with Tebow and a popular "locker room support" guy is his back-up, I could see things being ugly there. When pro teams are doing bad, I don't think "RAH RAH C'MON GUYS WE GOTTA PLAY BETTER NOW LET'S WIN ONE FOR JEBUS!" guys are too popular.
Jan 24, 2012 12:46pm
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Jan 24, 2012 1:21 PM
pnhasbeen;1063617 wrote:If he does get a super bowl ring he'll be holding the clipboard. Book it.
to be fair, there has only been 1 season where Roethlisberger started all 16 games (granted, 1 he was suspended and another he became the starter after 3 games). The #2 QB in the Pittsburgh Steelers organization is expected to contribute more than just being a clipboard holder. I mean, you are looking at an organization whose #2 QB has been a starter at one point or another in their careers somewhere else for the past 10 years or so.

That being said, I don't think Smith would ever lead a team to the Super Bowl as "the guy"
Jan 24, 2012 1:21pm
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Jan 24, 2012 2:08 PM
Bauserman would be a better NFL QB than TWHPIH.
Jan 24, 2012 2:08pm
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Jan 24, 2012 2:30 PM
Tiernan;1064155 wrote:Bauserman would be a better NFL QB than TWHPIH.
Now that is funny. :laugh:
Jan 24, 2012 2:30pm
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Jan 24, 2012 3:24 PM
Why so funny? Bauserman and TWHPIH are both about 5' 10" tall and chunky. Bauserman has a stronger arm (MLB draftee) and would stay in the pocket longer than TWHPIH who runs like an escaped con everytime he gets the ball. Only thing is he's like an escaped con wearing leg irons.
Jan 24, 2012 3:24pm
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Jan 24, 2012 6:44 PM
Tiernan;1064267 wrote:Why so funny? Bauserman and TWHPIH are both about 5' 10" tall and chunky. Bauserman has a stronger arm (MLB draftee) and would stay in the pocket longer than TWHPIH who runs like an escaped con everytime he gets the ball. Only thing is he's like an escaped con wearing leg irons.
You're really not good at this. Need to take more notes on what sleeper does. :)
Jan 24, 2012 6:44pm
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Jan 25, 2012 9:51 AM
oh I'm good...you just gota be intelligent enough to appreciate the sarcasm.
Jan 25, 2012 9:51am
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Jan 25, 2012 9:54 AM
Tiernan;1064949 wrote:oh I'm good...you just gota be intelligent enough to appreciate the sarcasm.
Yeah, I get the sarcasm and it's lame. Keep trying.
Jan 25, 2012 9:54am