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Jan 20, 2012 6:51 PM
I can't remember how long ago this was, before the football season definitely, but someone on Bill Simmons' podcast talked about Troy Smith and said that a GM told him Troy is tough to have as a backup because he gets a lot of support and respect from his teammates, so it's tough to have him if the starting QB isn't locked into that spot. Take it for what it's worth, but thought it was interesting.

Now I don't think Troy Smith would ever light the NFL on fire, but I do think he could be a servicable QB. I mean, he can't be any worse than John Beck, Charlie Whitehurst, Curtis Painter, or Colt McCoy IMO.
Jan 20, 2012 6:51pm
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Jan 20, 2012 7:19 PM
Terry_Tate;1060538 wrote:I can't remember how long ago this was, before the football season definitely, but someone on Bill Simmons' podcast talked about Troy Smith and said that a GM told him Troy is tough to have as a backup because he gets a lot of support and respect from his teammates, so it's tough to have him if the starting QB isn't locked into that spot. Take it for what it's worth, but thought it was interesting.

Now I don't think Troy Smith would ever light the NFL on fire, but I do think he could be a servicable QB. I mean, he can't be any worse than John Beck, Charlie Whitehurst, Curtis Painter, or Colt McCoy IMO.
prepare to be flamed. that tends to happen on here when you don't agree with the masses. They will also probably make it out like you said he is pro-bowl caliber. ;)
Jan 20, 2012 7:19pm
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Jan 20, 2012 7:36 PM
This thread makes me laugh. Apparently pick6 is a glutton for punishment.

I'm fairly certain you didn't just say he belonged in the NFL, you were saying he should be starting over Alex Smith. Oh well.

Let's see if he is still on their roster come week 1 next season.
Jan 20, 2012 7:36pm
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Jan 20, 2012 7:45 PM
Terry Tate is a reasonable/rational poster and he didn't go overboard while talking about Smith there so I don't see him getting flamed at any point.
Jan 20, 2012 7:45pm
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Jan 20, 2012 7:48 PM
killer_ewok;1060569 wrote:Terry Tate is a reasonable/rational poster and he didn't go overboard while talking about Smith there so I don't see him getting flamed at any point.
I don't know man. Terry Tate probably didn't take "accounting classes at Ohio State." Taking said classes makes you "business-minded" per pick6
Jan 20, 2012 7:48pm
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Jan 20, 2012 8:29 PM
jordo212000;1060562 wrote:This thread makes me laugh. Apparently pick6 is a glutton for punishment.

I'm fairly certain you didn't just say he belonged in the NFL, you were saying he should be starting over Alex Smith. Oh well.

Let's see if he is still on their roster come week 1 next season.
jordo212000;1060570 wrote:I don't know man. Terry Tate probably didn't take "accounting classes at Ohio State." Taking said classes makes you "business-minded" per pick6
man..learn to read..Im tired of people putting words in my mouth.. Also just goes to show that Crouch starting over Smith was just to sell seats, like I said. Because if Crouch was really better than TS, wouldnt he be in the NFL?

also keep the thread on topic. This has nothing to do with the 49ers.
Jan 20, 2012 8:29pm
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Jan 20, 2012 9:05 PM
jordo212000;1060570 wrote:I don't know man. Terry Tate probably didn't take "accounting classes at Ohio State." Taking said classes makes you "business-minded" per pick6
Where the hell did that come from? I graduated from Ohio State majoring in Accounting. That's weird. :)
Jan 20, 2012 9:05pm
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Jan 20, 2012 9:07 PM
Terry_Tate;1060618 wrote:Where the hell did that come from? I graduated from Ohio State majoring in Accounting. That's weird. :)

Haha. He was telling us in the original thread that his opinion was better because he was business minded from his time taking business and accounting classes at Ohio State. It's just a running gag now
Jan 20, 2012 9:07pm
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Jan 20, 2012 9:19 PM
jordo212000;1060619 wrote:Haha. He was telling us in the original thread that his opinion was better because he was business minded from his time taking business and accounting classes at Ohio State. It's just a running gag now
I've never attended a single class at Ohio State dumb fuck.
Jan 20, 2012 9:19pm
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Jan 20, 2012 9:20 PM
jordo212000;1060619 wrote:Haha. He was telling us in the original thread that his opinion was better because he was business minded from his time taking business and accounting classes at Ohio State. It's just a running gag now
Ah, alright. I just saw that and was a little freaked out since that was my exact major and school, haha.
Jan 20, 2012 9:20pm
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Jan 20, 2012 10:29 PM
Pick6;1060627 wrote:I've never attended a single class at Ohio State dumb fuck.
ahh okay, well I was wrong about what school you went to, but I did quote you correctly. Guess I just assumed you went to Ohio State because you were a fan. My bad.

http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?28150-Troy-Smith-signs-with/page3&highlight=troy
Pick6;1060627 wrote:Im not so blind that I cant see that the UFL is worried more about making money than producing a good product right now, unlike you. So apparently im a little more business minded than you, not to mention I am an accounting major.
Jan 20, 2012 10:29pm
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Jan 20, 2012 10:43 PM
Pick6;1060595 wrote:man..learn to read..Im tired of people putting words in my mouth.. Also just goes to show that Crouch starting over Smith was just to sell seats, like I said. Because if Crouch was really better than TS, wouldnt he be in the NFL?

also keep the thread on topic. This has nothing to do with the 49ers.
Nice try
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?28150-Troy-Smith-signs-with/page3&highlight=troy
BR1986FB;1060595 wrote:How is what you're saying about Troy Smith any different?

Sure, some people may believe that he's an "NFL caliber QB" but you seem to think he's the next Kurt Warner. "Just give em a chance and he'll be a Hall of Famer." That's how it comes across.
Pick6;1060595 wrote:What? How? LOL. By saying he should start for one of the worst franchises in the NFL over a bust?!?
and how am I making this off topic? You started the thread off topic by smoking me and a few others out. What did you expect to happen?
Jan 20, 2012 10:43pm
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Jan 20, 2012 10:52 PM
Wish Dennis Dixon would get all second team reps and play.
Jan 20, 2012 10:52pm
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Jan 21, 2012 1:10 AM
IMO Dixon might be a decent starter for another team. Not a stud. Around average, so it makes sense for him to leave for the likes of Jacksonville, Miami, etc. Smith is a valuable No. two QB for Pittsburgh due to the injury problems of Ben
Jan 21, 2012 1:10am
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Jan 21, 2012 10:47 AM
BearBoy69;1060798 wrote:IMO Dixon might be a decent starter for another team. Not a stud. Around average, so it makes sense for him to leave for the likes of Jacksonville, Miami, etc. Smith is a valuable No. two QB for Pittsburgh due to the injury problems of Ben
Yeah I like Dixon. Showed potential when he has had a couple starts IMO. This signing helps Pitt because both Batch and Dixon are set to be FAs I believe.
Jan 21, 2012 10:47am
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Jan 21, 2012 2:30 PM
jordo212000;1060562 wrote:Let's see if he is still on their roster come week 1 next season.
That probably is something that should be determined before any "all you people who didn't think he can play in the NFL should shut up" comments are made. At least in theory, as it's too late for that now, going off the first post in the thread.

Back-up quarterback is a position of concern for the Steelers. Batch is old. Leftwich is made of porcelain. Dixon really hasn't shown the ability (in little playing time, to be fair) to be more than a game-managing stopgap. As a fan of the team, it seems obvious that Smith is going to get a shot to be Ben's back-up, but I don't know that him being on the roster at the end of preseason is a set-in-stone reality.

In the NFL world of salary caps, I doubt they'd keep a guy with NFL experience who has started in the past around as a third-string QB when that spot can be filled by someone making league minimum (or if you put money into that position, if Batch stays around, I'd rather have the guy with multiple years in the organization performing as, essentially, an extra coach on the sideline as opposed to a first-year Steeler), so I'd guess he's in a "#2 QB or bust" situation where he either outshines the current back-ups or he's looking for another job again.
Jan 21, 2012 2:30pm
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Jan 21, 2012 7:57 PM
So he signed, what exactly does that mean? Steelers give him $10m and have his rights until they decide on him?

I am somewhere in the middle on Smith. I think he's tough to have as a backup, because he thinks he should be a starter. But when I watch McCoy for a year, I have to think Smith is of his equal.
Jan 21, 2012 7:57pm
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Jan 22, 2012 11:10 AM
thedynasty1998;1061332 wrote:So he signed, what exactly does that mean? Steelers give him $10m and have his rights until they decide on him?

I am somewhere in the middle on Smith. I think he's tough to have as a backup, because he thinks he should be a starter. But when I watch McCoy for a year, I have to think Smith is of his equal.
So, when you said you stopped watching Browns games, was that a lie for dramatic effect or what?
Jan 22, 2012 11:10am
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Jan 22, 2012 12:48 PM
I always thought Troy Smith was decent, capable of being a solid No. 2 and spot starter.
Jan 22, 2012 12:48pm
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Jan 22, 2012 2:17 PM
Pick6 kind of ran away from this thread didn't he?
Jan 22, 2012 2:17pm
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Jan 22, 2012 2:18 PM
The Equalizer;1060402 wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing if he could play some CB or S
He looked like he should have been playing LT during the national championship game years ago....sigh. I am still bitter over that game..lol
Jan 22, 2012 2:18pm
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Jan 22, 2012 3:23 PM
jordo212000;1061836 wrote:Pick6 kind of ran away from this thread didn't he?
no, dumb ass.
Jan 22, 2012 3:23pm
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Jan 22, 2012 3:25 PM
Pick6;1061896 wrote:no, dumb ass.

U mad?
Jan 22, 2012 3:25pm
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Jan 22, 2012 3:31 PM
pnhasbeen;1061897 wrote:U mad?
nope.
Jan 22, 2012 3:31pm
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Jan 22, 2012 3:57 PM
Pittsburgh is smart.
Jan 22, 2012 3:57pm