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Jan 17, 2012 2:17 PM
Remember, his debt could become your debt when he dies.

Other than that, he's just being a good American and trying to follow the example set by our wonderful government.
Jan 17, 2012 2:17pm
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Jan 17, 2012 2:20 PM
LJ;1055844 wrote:How old is your father and what kind of health is he in?

Is good credit really that big of a deal at the stage of life he is in? It's almost better for older people to just say "fuck it" when it comes to their credit and just do whatever they can to make the rest of their lives comfortable.
He is 63 and not in bad health.
Jan 17, 2012 2:20pm
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Jan 17, 2012 2:21 PM
Steel Valley Football;1055852 wrote:Remember, his debt could become your debt when he dies.
Is that true?
Steel Valley Football;1055852 wrote:Other than that, he's just being a good American and trying to follow the example set by our wonderful government.
That is definitely true of a lot of people. Why pay it off when you can take the easy way out.
Jan 17, 2012 2:21pm
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Jan 17, 2012 2:23 PM
FatHobbit;1055856 wrote:Is that true?


Financially? No.
If you are the executor then you would have the responsibility of settling the debts out of the estate. If he has a ton of debts, then you have a ton of work to do.
Jan 17, 2012 2:23pm
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Jan 17, 2012 2:24 PM
FatHobbit;1055856 wrote:Is that true?

The estate's assets have to pay off the estate's debts. Assuming you're an heir, it would cut into (or eliminate) your share. You aren't personally responsible for his debts.
Jan 17, 2012 2:24pm
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Jan 17, 2012 2:24 PM
Maybe in the order of some sort of inheritance it may affect you but I dont think his debt really can become your debt unless you have co-signed and such.
Jan 17, 2012 2:24pm
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Jan 17, 2012 2:25 PM
FatHobbit;1055740 wrote: The truck was a diesel 4x4 F350 and I think the sticker was just under $70k. It was a really nice truck, but he didn't need it.
I wanna play along too. Why did he think he needed a one ton truck? Could it have been for a business expense? Or is the F350 just another example of spending more then he can afford?
Jan 17, 2012 2:25pm
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Jan 17, 2012 2:26 PM
LJ;1055859 wrote:Financially? No.
If you are the executor then you would have the responsibility of settling the debts out of the estate. If he has a ton of debts, then you have a ton of work to do.
What if he has no money? He has a pension, Social Security and Military retirement which give him enough to pay his bills every month. He also has a house with not much equity in it. (He bought it maybe two years ago?) I seriously doubt he has a will.
Jan 17, 2012 2:26pm
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Jan 17, 2012 2:28 PM
queencitybuckeye;1055861 wrote:The estate's assets have to pay off the estate's debts. Assuming you're an heir, it would cut into (or eliminate) your share. You aren't personally responsible for his debts.
That makes sense and is kinda what I thought.
Jan 17, 2012 2:28pm
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Jan 17, 2012 2:28 PM
FatHobbit;1055866 wrote:What if he has no money? He has a pension, Social Security and Military retirement which give him enough to pay his bills every month. He also has a house with not much equity in it. (He bought it maybe two years ago?) I seriously doubt he has a will.
This is the order things are paid
  1. Expenses for administering the estate, which can include court costs, attorney's fees and executor's fees.
  1. Mortgages, tax liens and other secured debt, to the extent that the sale of the assets can pay off the loans. Leftover debt generally drops to the bottom of the priority list.
  1. Funeral expenses.
  1. Expenses from the last illness, including hospital, doctor, caregiver and pharmacy bills.
  1. A family allowance, which is typically a stipend that allows a surviving spouse and any minor children to pay essential living costs.
  1. Wage claims by any employees.
  1. All other debt.
basically, once the estate is empty, it's empty. The onlt thing of those you could be responsible for is the funeral.
Jan 17, 2012 2:28pm
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Jan 17, 2012 2:30 PM
said_aouita;1055864 wrote:I wanna play along too. Why did he think he needed a one ton truck? Could it have been for a business expense? Or is the F350 just another example of spending more then he can afford?
He did not need it. He just wanted a new truck. The truck he has now is perfectly fine. It is a 2003 and not four wheel drive.
Jan 17, 2012 2:30pm
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Jan 17, 2012 2:33 PM
I would sugges he to sell one of his trucks. Even if ya have to take a loss on the new one it may behoove him to get rid of the new truck. He probably will take a loss but that would be minimal compared to what he has to pay every month.
Jan 17, 2012 2:33pm
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Jan 17, 2012 2:44 PM
thavoice;1055875 wrote:I would sugges he to sell one of his trucks. Even if ya have to take a loss on the new one it may behoove him to get rid of the new truck. He probably will take a loss but that would be minimal compared to what he has to pay every month.
He didn't get a new truck. I talked him out of it because he didn't need it and it was more than he needed to spend.
Jan 17, 2012 2:44pm
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Jan 17, 2012 2:52 PM
My bad, I misread I guess.

As someone else said....see if he can sell off some of the stuff he has on like Ebay or whatever.


See what the DC have to say, call the creditors himself and see what they can do and then go from there. He may be best to have that info from the DC handy when talking to the creditors. They will try to do what it takes to keep the DC outta the loop
Jan 17, 2012 2:52pm
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Jan 17, 2012 3:20 PM
LJ;1055859 wrote:Financially? No.
If you are the executor then you would have the responsibility of settling the debts out of the estate. If he has a ton of debts, then you have a ton of work to do.
Generally speaking, if his dad leaves him assets, he would have to use those assets to pay off certain debts. Like an equity loan that he could have dissuaded him from taking out. Obviously, he doesn't inherit his dads credit card debt and such.
Jan 17, 2012 3:20pm
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Jan 17, 2012 3:27 PM
I do not expect to get any money from him. I would like him to live as long as possible while making good financial decisions. I have been able to talk him out of doing stupid things before and I will talk to him again tonight and see if I can talk him out of this. Thanks everyone for the advice.
Jan 17, 2012 3:27pm
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Jan 17, 2012 4:16 PM
You'll never be able to talk him out of wearing women's underwear, however.
Jan 17, 2012 4:16pm
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Jan 17, 2012 5:17 PM
SnotBubbles;1056006 wrote:
Yes. this thread did need some tits to liven it up.

Thanks.

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Jan 17, 2012 5:17pm
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Jan 17, 2012 6:25 PM
Owning his house is a good thing, I'd think.
Make sure his vehicle and home insurance are with the same company. Also, look at changing his home owners insurance around. Deductible or monthly payments.
Jan 17, 2012 6:25pm