ManO'War;1061031 wrote:What puts most of the private schools over the top is bringing in kids without "means". How many titles would Mooney or Ursuline have without the "urban" (black) kids?? Is it a coincidence that Ursuline started to dominate their division when they started handing out vouchers?? It's the big elephant sitting in the room and nobody has the guts to say it.

landshark0731;1061044 wrote:And the transfers you bring in from West Virginia is ok tho? Pretty hypocritical is it not?

landshark0731;1061048 wrote:Mooney had won I believe four state titles in the 70's and 80's well before vouchers.

Bigdogg;1055638 wrote:News Release – Ohio High School Athletic Association
Commissioner Daniel B. Ross, Ph.D.

4080 Roselea Place
Columbus, OH 43214
Main: 614-267-2502
Fax: 614-267-1677
www.OHSAA.org

For Immediate Release – January 13, 2012

Contact – Tim Stried, Director of Information Services, [email protected]
OHSAA Board of Directors Meeting Highlights – January 12, 2012

COLUMBUS, Ohio – The Ohio High School Athletic Association Board of Directors met Thursday morning at the OHSAA office in Columbus for its regularly scheduled January meeting. The following are highlights from the meeting. The complete set of meeting minutes will be posted at OHSAA.org in the near future.

- The Board unanimously approved a motion to continue to support the work of the OHSAA’s Competitive Balance Committee, which meets again January 31. The motion was in response to a letter received from an Ohio public school superintendent that requested the Board of Directors immediately create a referendum item to go to the membership this spring that would place public and non-public schools into separate tournaments.

http://www.ohsaa.org/news/board/11212.pdf

landshark0731;1061074 wrote:Hey thick here's a big red story to tell , remember back when you had to forfeit a game for playing a illegal transfer against lakeside?

landshark0731;1061100 wrote:The point is you cry about Mooney and you constantly bring in transfers even from West Virginia.

Thinthickbigred;1061070 wrote:Everybody knows mooney gets the biggest kids in a huge area , I just Hope Harding and Fitch and Boardman shut the gates . Id love to see that school shut down

Thinthickbigred;1061104 wrote: Difference between us and Mooney is we dont recruit they do

Thinthickbigred;1061104 wrote:the score was 55-6 and it was the first game of the season .
Difference between us and Mooney is we dont recruit they do . You are implying wrong doing by us and there was none A kid got in a couple of plays at the end of a game that we won by 50 and he never started for the Red so keep distorting the facts thats all you do... BTW Go put that on our stories of Big Red if you like or whatever . This is a thread that doesnt concern Big Red

landshark0731;1061204 wrote:Nothing is being distorted! You bring in transfers even from West Virginia.

sherm03;1061156 wrote:SMH...and here I thought you were starting to actually turn the corner, thick. Looks like some people just can't change their style. You have no facts, just conjecture. Lines like this are tired. And until you have proof, kindly shut the hell up.

landshark0731;1061454 wrote:So your telling me big red has never had any kids transfer from weir, Wv?

skank;1061514 wrote:Take note fellas, this thread is ALREADY turning to S**T, and I haven't even posted yet.

Give credit where credit is due though....You parochial school guys are a very determined bunch.

skank;1061514 wrote:Take note fellas, this thread is ALREADY turning to S**T, and I haven't even posted yet.

Give credit where credit is due though....You parochial school guys are a very determined bunch.

queencitybuckeye;1055655 wrote:The juice box heroes are still trying.

ManO'War;1061031 wrote:What puts most of the private schools over the top is bringing in kids without "means". How many titles would Mooney or Ursuline have without the "urban" (black) kids?? Is it a coincidence that Ursuline started to dominate their division when they started handing out vouchers?? It's the big elephant sitting in the room and nobody has the guts to say it.

ManO'War;1061029 wrote:Most schools in Ohio are OE....the only ones that aren't are the suburban ones who already have a large enrollment and don't want "undesirables" into their system.

ccrunner609;1061619 wrote:A few comments from the whole thread:

1. Posters are quick to give examples of public schools whenever they beat privates. Sure it happens but private schools make up about 10% of all schools in the state but have won 60% of the titles over the past few decades. There is no argument that can counter that stat.

2. Publics like Graham wrstling programs have great coaches and do win but Graham has never won a state title with kids from St.Paris or even kids from adjoining school districts. Most of their "top" guys are from way far away that are recruited through Jordans summer camps.

3. THe DII and DIII privates that sit in the middle of urban areas like Alter do have a huge advantage over other DII schools. Alter has over 100,000 students to choose from within driving distance.

4. Even if kids at private schools dont have some "advantage", the socio-economic make up of their teams do play into an advantage over the long hall. Sports like golf, tennis, gymnastics, hockey, swimming etc...that take alot of money and training at a younger age private school families have those resources that others wont. LIke a local country club they belong to.