Indiana at Ohio State 1/15,4:30pm...Thoughts?

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Jan 15, 2012 8:51 PM
LJ;1054023 wrote:Where did I say he was terrible? I said it ended up being one of his best game he has had in a while. He just isn't shooting the way he has needed to, or given the ball up.
He is second on the team in asst. and the last couple of games, has gone above his avg. He didn't force shots today. I'd say he was giving up the rock just fine.
Jan 15, 2012 8:51pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:51 PM
LJ;1054029 wrote:Great?

#Sleeperfails
We won by 17 against the #7 team in the country. He played great.
Jan 15, 2012 8:51pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:52 PM
LJ;1054026 wrote:You think Matta told him to take the final shot in the UK game last year when he was off all game? Or the final shot on Dec 31 when he was off all game? Or too keep shooting at Illinois when he was off instead of feeding it to Sully?
Yes, I'll just about gaurantee Matta was. Why do you think those plays were ran for him? Matta called those plays.
Jan 15, 2012 8:52pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:52 PM
LJ;1054023 wrote:Where did I say he was terrible? I said it ended up being one of his best game he has had in a while. He just isn't shooting the way he has needed to, or given the ball up.
Lol...no you said OSU won despite him.
Jan 15, 2012 8:52pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:53 PM
centralbucksfan;1054030 wrote:He is second on the team in asst. and the last couple of games, has gone above his avg. He didn't force shots today. I'd say he was giving up the rock just fine.
0 Asst at Illinois is "above his average"?

LOL
Jan 15, 2012 8:53pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:54 PM
ytownfootball;1054032 wrote:Lol...no you said OSU won despite him.
Him not scoring much and giving up TO's. I never said he was terrible, but a starting "scorer" should do more.
Jan 15, 2012 8:54pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:55 PM
centralbucksfan;1054033 wrote:Yes, I'll just about gaurantee Matta was. Why do you think those plays were ran for him? Matta called those plays.

Then maybe Matta needs more heat if those were his decisions, because they were horrid.
Jan 15, 2012 8:55pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:56 PM
LJ;1054036 wrote:Him not scoring much and giving up TO's. I never said he was terrible, but a starting "scorer" should do more.
Channeling your inner "Matta"? :rolleyes:
Jan 15, 2012 8:56pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:59 PM
ytownfootball;1054039 wrote:Channeling your inner "Matta"? :rolleyes:

God forbid I want this team to go deep in the tourny. Ok fine. All we want is a high seed and an early out? Ya, Buford is playing great!!!!
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Jan 15, 2012 9:01 PM
LJ;1054040 wrote:God forbid I want this team to go deep in the tourny. Ok fine. All we want is a high seed and an early out? Ya, Buford is playing great!!!!
If we beat every 2 seed in the country by 17, I think we'll be alright.
Jan 15, 2012 9:01pm
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Jan 15, 2012 9:02 PM
sleeper;1054042 wrote:If we beat every 2 seed in the country by 17, I think we'll be alright.

Osu cant play in Columbus, just an fyi
Jan 15, 2012 9:02pm
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Jan 15, 2012 9:04 PM
LJ;1054045 wrote:Osu cant play in Columbus, just an fyi
When you win by 17 against the #7 team in the country, you don't have to.
Jan 15, 2012 9:04pm
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Jan 15, 2012 9:05 PM
LJ;1054040 wrote:God forbid I want this team to go deep in the tourny. Ok fine. All we want is a high seed and an early out? Ya, Buford is playing great!!!!
And where, pray tell, did anyone say that? Look, you think Buford has to go triple double because he's a senior in order for them to go deep in the tournament. If not then exactly what? 18/12/7? I mean all anyone is saying is that OSU didn't win "in spite of William Buford" That comment was simply off the mark for the day.
Jan 15, 2012 9:05pm
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Jan 15, 2012 9:06 PM
LJ;1054037 wrote:Then maybe Matta needs more heat if those were his decisions, because they were horrid.
Ya, now your making yourself look stupid. I get what your saying. I agree Buford isn't shooting the ball well. I agree, for OSU to make a run in the tourney, they are going to NEED him. BUT, they also won today, won big without him scoring. Which is a VERY GOOD sign. Others guys stepped up. Thats what this team needed. Its going to give this team more confidence in other guys such as Smith Jr. I am also confident, Buford will find his shot. I am sure NO ONE wants that more than him. The guys is going to end up as a top 5 all time scorer in OSU history. He has had a very good career at OSU. I am confident, he will find his stroke soon.
Jan 15, 2012 9:06pm
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Jan 15, 2012 9:07 PM
I don't see any reason to bitch about this victory...
Jan 15, 2012 9:07pm
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Jan 15, 2012 9:09 PM
ytownfootball;1054050 wrote:And where, pray tell, did anyone say that? Look, you think Buford has to go triple double because he's a senior in order for them to go deep in the tournament. If not then exactly what? 18/12/7? I mean all anyone is saying is that OSU didn't win "in spite of William Buford" That comment was simply off the mark for the day.

He has to be efficient and hit big shots when needed. He has to be the guy to score from outside when needed. He needs to be the guy to put up 20 when they double Sully all game. I never said he has to get a triple double every night. Consistency. That is the key.
Jan 15, 2012 9:09pm
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Jan 15, 2012 9:10 PM
Buford played fine. He was wide open and just missed a few times. If he didnt shoot, youd know his confidence was shot, and that WOULD be a BIG problem for OSU. Shooters shoot their way out. In past games, when he forced the shots, it was an issue. But he is a shooter and needs to find the stroke. So he has to take those shots when they are there.
Jan 15, 2012 9:10pm
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Jan 15, 2012 9:12 PM
LJ;1054055 wrote:He has to be efficient and hit big shots when needed. He has to be the guy to score from outside when needed. He needs to be the guy to put up 20 when they double Sully all game. I never said he has to get a triple double every night. Consistency. That is the key.
We all want that but that's not an issue when Smith goes off for 28. He took and made the shots WB didn't, and WB still had 12. It's no big deal, he'll find the shot, or we'll see him struggle. He's not coming off the floor.
Jan 15, 2012 9:12pm
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Jan 15, 2012 9:13 PM
LJ;1054055 wrote:He has to be efficient and hit big shots when needed. He has to be the guy to score from outside when needed. He needs to be the guy to put up 20 when they double Sully all game. I never said he has to get a triple double every night. Consistency. That is the key.
I disagree. Consistency, yes. But he doesn't need to hit 20. Thomas can get that. Big shots? Sully and Thomas can do that as well. Buford is NOT needed to do those things. Now when all three on are, OSU won't get beat. OSU is the ONLY team in the country right now that has 3 players who avg. 15+. Buford today, actually got OSU going if you remember. Not garbage time btw.
Whats funny, ur ripping on Buford, when in fact, Sullinger may have been the worst of the 5 today. But God forbid we rip on the golden boy. ;)
Jan 15, 2012 9:13pm
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Jan 15, 2012 9:16 PM
centralbucksfan;1054060 wrote: But God forbid we rip on the golden boy. ;)
Well, he did only have 2 points in the first half, his other 14 were in garbage time.:o
Jan 15, 2012 9:16pm
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Jan 15, 2012 9:16 PM
Laley23;1054056 wrote:Buford played fine. He was wide open and just missed a few times. If he didnt shoot, youd know his confidence was shot, and that WOULD be a BIG problem for OSU. Shooters shoot their way out. In past games, when he forced the shots, it was an issue. But he is a shooter and needs to find the stroke. So he has to take those shots when they are there.
On the money. Wondering if you were still hanging in there after today. Took a good friend of mine to game, he is big IU fan. He walked in expecting what happened. So I think it lessoned the blow today. OSU played lights out defense in first half. I think the only open/good look they had was Hall first jumper of game. Obviously a combination of great OSU defense and IU not executing. Even great defense won't hold a team like IU to only 14 pts in a half.
Jan 15, 2012 9:16pm
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Jan 15, 2012 9:16 PM
centralbucksfan;1054060 wrote:I disagree. Consistency, yes. But he doesn't need to hit 20. Thomas can get that. Big shots? Sully and Thomas can do that as well. Buford is NOT needed to do those things. Now when all three on are, OSU won't get beat. OSU is the ONLY team in the country right now that has 3 players who avg. 15+. Buford today, actually got OSU going if you remember. Not garbage time btw.
Whats funny, ur ripping on Buford, when in fact, Sullinger may have been the worst of the 5 today. But God forbid we rip on the golden boy. ;)



Sully had 21 9 and shot 50%. Thomas had some bad airballs, and Ravenal is worthless most times.
Jan 15, 2012 9:16pm
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Jan 15, 2012 9:18 PM
LJ;1054065 wrote:Sully had 21 9 and shot 50%. Thomas had some bad airballs, and Ravenal is worthless most times.
He had 16pts today. NOT 21. He had 2pts in first half. Game was over. 14 in GARBAGE time!! Ouch!
Jan 15, 2012 9:18pm
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Jan 15, 2012 9:19 PM
ytownfootball;1054058 wrote:He's not coming off the floor.

Which is why I want him to get better. Dunno what is wrong with someone wanting to get better?
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Jan 15, 2012 9:22 PM
LJ;1054071 wrote:Which is why I want him to get better. Dunno what is wrong with someone wanting to get better?
Everybody does. Not everybody said they won today in spite of him. Try to back out of the corner gracefully and give it up.
Jan 15, 2012 9:22pm