Indiana at Ohio State 1/15,4:30pm...Thoughts?

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Jan 15, 2012 8:23 PM
IMO, one of the glaring weak spots for the Buckeyes is our foul shooting. If we can't get more consistent from the charity stripe, it WILL come back to haunt us.
Jan 15, 2012 8:23pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:27 PM
LJ;1053972 wrote:He was -2 in turnovers. How is that calling it even? lol
There's no such thing as garbage time against the top 3 point shooting team in the country.
Jan 15, 2012 8:27pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:28 PM
LJ;1053971 wrote:At one point Buford was 3-9 and 1-4 33% and 25%


Apparently he is great at hitting shots in garbage time
There's no such thing as garbage time against the top 3 point shooting team in the country.
Jan 15, 2012 8:28pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:31 PM
vball10set;1053974 wrote:IMO, one of the glaring weak spots for the Buckeyes is our foul shooting. If we can't get more consistent from the charity stripe, it WILL come back to haunt us.
Pretty frustrating...would like to see better effort here for sure.
Jan 15, 2012 8:31pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:31 PM
ytownfootball;1053978 wrote:There's no such thing as garbage time against the top 3 point shooting team in the country.
Whatever excuse you wanna make for him. He wasn't the absolute liability he has been in the past few weeks, but he definitely wasn't the 3 year starting sr he is supposed to be
Jan 15, 2012 8:31pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:36 PM
LJ;1053844 wrote:OSU won today despite William Buford IMO
LJ;1053985 wrote:Whatever excuse you wanna make for him. He wasn't the absolute liability he has been in the past few weeks, but he definitely wasn't the 3 year starting sr he is supposed to be
I am not making "excuses" for him, just pointing out that he did more than contribute and your first quote is pretty much a falacy. lol
Jan 15, 2012 8:36pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:36 PM
Unreal, get back from the game, OSU DRILLS IU, yet we have whinners on here bitching. Are you kidding me? If OSU plays defense as they did in the first half of this game, they could win out. No, that wont' happen. But I saw HUGE improvement. They responded. Which is what you want. Some of you expect perfection. Please, its sports. Temper your unrealistic expectations. Great game today!
Jan 15, 2012 8:36pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:36 PM
LJ;1053966 wrote:He hit the 2nd 3 in garbage time and had 4 turnovers. Pretty sad when that is his best game since November
He had 28 and 9 against Northwestern on December 28th.
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Jan 15, 2012 8:38 PM
Unreal, get back from the game, OSU DRILLS IU, yet we have whinners on here bitching. Are you kidding me? If OSU plays defense as they did in the first half of this game, they could win out. No, that wont' happen. But I saw HUGE improvement. They responded. Which is what you want. Some of you expect perfection. Please, its sports. Temper your unrealistic expectations. Great game today!

BTW, Buford was NOT that bad. He didn't shoot well. But rebounded and had a handful of asst. Played good defense. More importantly, he didn't force things today. He was "ok".
Jan 15, 2012 8:38pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:38 PM
Mulva;1053994 wrote:He had 28 and 9 against Northwestern on December 28th.
I meant ranked teams.
Jan 15, 2012 8:38pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:40 PM
ytownfootball;1053992 wrote:I am not making "excuses" for him, just pointing out that he did more than contribute and your first quote is pretty much a falacy. lol
He is suppsoed to be the "leader" and the "scorer". He was ok, but he hasn't lived up to anything he is supposed to have been this year in the past few weeks.
Jan 15, 2012 8:40pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:40 PM
LJ;1053966 wrote:He hit the 2nd 3 in garbage time and had 4 turnovers. Pretty sad when that is his best game since November
His turnovers were in garbage time. If things like 3pt shots don't count in garbage time, then turnovers shouldn't either.
Jan 15, 2012 8:40pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:41 PM
Buford hasn't been shooting well, but he hasn't let it affect the other parts of his game. So I'm ok with him, I know he will get hot at some point.
Jan 15, 2012 8:41pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:41 PM
Mulva;1053994 wrote:He had 28 and 9 against Northwestern on December 28th.
December*
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Jan 15, 2012 8:42 PM
LJ;1054003 wrote:He is suppsoed to be the "leader" and the "scorer". He was ok, but he hasn't lived up to anything he is supposed to have been this year in the past few weeks.
According to who? Never heard Matta say that. Maybe thats you coming up with that. I agree, he is struggling SHOOTING the ball, no question. But he is doing other things. Things that in the past, he wouldn't have done.
Jan 15, 2012 8:42pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:42 PM
centralbucksfan;1054004 wrote:His turnovers were in garbage time. If things like 3pt shots don't count in garbage time, then turnovers shouldn't either.
Except his turnovers have all been coming at the same time, at the end of games. That's an issue.
Jan 15, 2012 8:42pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:43 PM
centralbucksfan;1054008 wrote:According to who? Never heard Matta say that. Maybe thats you coming up with that. I agree, he is struggling SHOOTING the ball, no question. But he is doing other things. Things that in the past, he wouldn't have done.
Me? No.

The problem is when he is struggling shooting, he just keeps shooting, and then he is a liability. He needs to learn to give it up more when he is off.
Jan 15, 2012 8:43pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:44 PM
LJ, seriously. U are the WORST kind of fan. NEVER happy with anything. OSU just drills a VERY good team, yet you are on here bitching. Give it a rest. Its basketball. Never seen a guy play a perfect game in my life. Players have slumps. Its far from a perfect science. And this comes from me, someone who has been highly critical of Buford in the past. What I see now, is that although he is struggling shooting the ball, his effort and other areas are not being affected. Which in the past, they were. His shot will come.
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Jan 15, 2012 8:46 PM
LJ;1054012 wrote:Me? No.

The problem is when he is struggling shooting, he just keeps shooting, and then he is a liability. He needs to learn to give it up more when he is off.
Thats not a problem. He is a damn good shooter. Shooters shoot. I'll gaurantee, Matta is telling him to keep shooting. Every coach in America would be doing the same. I have a problem when he forces things. Today, he didn't. Shots he took, were all good shots.
Jan 15, 2012 8:46pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:46 PM
He was 5/12 and 2/5 from three...that's just not terrible.
Jan 15, 2012 8:46pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:47 PM
centralbucksfan;1054016 wrote:LJ, seriously. U are the WORST kind of fan. NEVER happy with anything. OSU just drills a VERY good team, yet you are on here bitching. Give it a rest. Its basketball. Never seen a guy play a perfect game in my life. Players have slumps. Its far from a perfect science. And this comes from me, someone who has been highly critical of Buford in the past. What I see now, is that although he is struggling shooting the ball, his effort and other areas are not being affected. Which in the past, they were. His shot will come.
I'm typically very happy with good performances. I just don't see the scoring that Buford needs to have in order for this team to go deep. We've had a few years of B1G titles, it's time for an NCAA title and it's time for the fans to start expecting that. Hell, I would be happy with an elite 8 and ecstatic with a final four this year. Buford needs to either hit his shots, or give the ball up more.
Jan 15, 2012 8:47pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:48 PM
ytownfootball;1054020 wrote:He was 5/12 and 2/5 from three...that's just not terrible.
Where did I say he was terrible? I said it ended up being one of his best game he has had in a while. He just isn't shooting the way he has needed to, or given the ball up.
Jan 15, 2012 8:48pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:49 PM
Bufford played a great game today.

LJ starting to sound Dynasty.
Jan 15, 2012 8:49pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:50 PM
centralbucksfan;1054018 wrote:Thats not a problem. He is a damn good shooter. Shooters shoot. I'll gaurantee, Matta is telling him to keep shooting. Every coach in America would be doing the same. I have a problem when he forces things. Today, he didn't. Shots he took, were all good shots.
You think Matta told him to take the final shot in the UK game last year when he was off all game? Or the final shot on Dec 31 when he was off all game? Or too keep shooting at Illinois when he was off instead of feeding it to Sully?
Jan 15, 2012 8:50pm
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Jan 15, 2012 8:50 PM
sleeper;1054025 wrote:Bufford played a great game today.

LJ starting to sound Dynasty.
Great?

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Jan 15, 2012 8:50pm