karen lotz;1155109 wrote:Josh Luchs is the same agent from the Sports Illustrated article 2 summers ago isn't he? Confessions of an Agent or something? Not exactly new allegations, Brooks.


October 2010. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/magazine/10/12/agent/index.html

Yeah, he claims that this is new because it is from his book that just came out.

ah, yes because it names the agent and he has a record of paying FSU players. Brooks tries too hard.

karen lotz;1155115 wrote:ah, yes because it names the agent and he has a record of paying FSU players. Brooks tries too hard.

Brooks reading that page of the book

LJ;1155117 wrote:Brooks reading that page of the book

LOL

Refreshing to see a 8 page offseason thread after last year's 50 pages of hell

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7881076/are-ohio-state-buckeyes-too-big-fail

vball10set;1161347 wrote:http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7881076/are-ohio-state-buckeyes-too-big-fail

This gets me fired up!

Except for Gene Smith being involved...fucking snake.

Meyer released the depth chart today. No real surprises.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/osu/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2011-12/misc_non_event/2012twodeepchart.pdf

Here's a list of some of the self-reported secondary NCAA violations OSU has committed since Tressel was fired...

• Football coach Urban Meyer said "Good luck," to recruit Noah Spence before his state championship game in Pennsylvania in December. Contact like that with Spence, on his game day, is forbidden.
• Athletic director Gene Smith and alumni association CEO Archie Griffin recorded a personalized video for football recruit Ezekiel Elliott for his official campus visit on March 31. Recruiting videos are forbidden.
• Assistant football coach Mike Vrabel used chewing tobacco on the sidelines during games, which was reported to Ohio State anonymously by an area health teacher. NCAA rules forbid tobacco use during games or practices.
• Greg Paulus, the basketball team's video coordinator, was reported to be coaching players during the Buckeyes' Big Ten Tournament semifinal win over Michigan on March 10. Video coordinators, who aren't full assistants, may not coach players. The violation was discovered after a general conversation between an OSU player's parent and an assistant athletic director.
• Last August, quality control football staffer Kirk Barton, a former OSU offensive lineman, created and ordered 20 "JT" bracelets for $5 each online to honor former coach Jim Tressel. He intended them for friends and family, but several players asked Barton about the bracelets. He sold seven players the bracelets for $15, charging that amount in an attempt to make sure no violation was committed, knowing that giving them out for free would be an NCAA violation. But selling them still was deemed a violation because players had access to something not available to the general public. The players returned the bracelets.
• Assistant coach Stan Drayton last July accidentally sent a text message to a recruit when he meant to send an email. Emails were permissible. Text messages were not.
• On Aug. 20, assistant coach Dick Tressel responded to a text message from the parents of recruit Warren Ball asking which gate to use to enter Ohio Stadium for a scrimmage. Texting the parents of a recruit was a violation.
• In December of 2010, five current football players took five recruits on OSU visits to a movie. NCAA rules allow each recruit $60 in spending money for entertainment. A cab ride to the movie put each recruit between $1 and $5 over budget, which the football players paid out of pocket. That was not allowed because the $60 limit was exceeded.
• The school realized that during three days of the football team's Rose Bowl trip from Dec. 26, 2009, to Jan. 2, 2010, the players received both a $15 per diem and breakfast. That pushed them over the allowable three meals of $45 per diem.

Glad we have so many damn rules.

$45 dollar per diem... For 3 meals?? Wow!!
"good luck" trying to not break some of these crazy rules.

Wonder how many secondary violations, a dumb as these, happen in a year throughout the whole NCAA.

Roby ran a 4.31 40 today.

The NCAA rules are absolutely stupid.

Also, once again Ohio State gets in the national news for minor violations while other schools get massive penalties and we hear nothing but a blip on the radar screen.

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What do you expect when Gene says more violations are on the way?

PS - Why is Gene still around?

These are secondary violation every school has. Nothing to see here. Pitt did the same thing in March.

WebFire;1181783 wrote:What do you expect when Gene says more violations are on the way?

PS - Why is Gene still around?

Did you see the "violations"?


Here are the "violations" if you want to read them


Football – The compliance office approved the use of mini basketballs during a football winter conditioning workout. Men’s Gymnastics – The practice activities of a gymnastics alum were publicized.
Institutional – Two baseball prospective student-athletes arrived on campus for official visits before being placed on the request list.
Institutional – Athletics financial aid agreements were issued to three prospective student-athletes without being signed by the financial aid director.
Football – A former assistant football coach had an inadvertent contact or “bump” with a prospective student-athlete.
Field Hockey – A former assistant coach sent an email to a prospective student-athlete believing that she was a 2013 high school graduate.
Men’s Tennis – A high school football coach and friend of the tennis program’s head coach stopped by the tennis training facility unannounced with an assistant coach and four prospective student-athletes during a dead period.
Baseball – A prospective student-athlete in grade 12 registered and showed up for an Ohio State camp for participants in grades 9-11 even though he was told he was not eligible to compete at the camp. A t-shirt was given to the individual to defuse the situation when he got upset that he couldn’t compete.
Baseball – A prospective student-athlete received a complimentary admission to a home baseball game during a dead period.
Women’s Hockey – A former assistant coach inadvertently sent an email to a 2014 prospective student-athlete when the prospect was mistakenly entered into the recruiting data base by the previous coaching staff as a 2013 graduate.
Football – The program understood the aunt of a prospective student-athlete was his legal guardian and provided food and lodging expenses to her for the official visit.
Football – An assistant coach inadvertently posted on the Facebook wall of a 2013 prospective student-athlete, believing at the time he was using the email inbox function of Facebook.

LJ;1181794 wrote:Did you see the "violations"?


Here are the "violations" if you want to read them


Football – The compliance office approved the use of mini basketballs during a football winter conditioning workout. Men’s Gymnastics – The practice activities of a gymnastics alum were publicized.
Institutional – Two baseball prospective student-athletes arrived on campus for official visits before being placed on the request list.
Institutional – Athletics financial aid agreements were issued to three prospective student-athletes without being signed by the financial aid director.
Football – A former assistant football coach had an inadvertent contact or “bump” with a prospective student-athlete.
Field Hockey – A former assistant coach sent an email to a prospective student-athlete believing that she was a 2013 high school graduate.
Men’s Tennis – A high school football coach and friend of the tennis program’s head coach stopped by the tennis training facility unannounced with an assistant coach and four prospective student-athletes during a dead period.
Baseball – A prospective student-athlete in grade 12 registered and showed up for an Ohio State camp for participants in grades 9-11 even though he was told he was not eligible to compete at the camp. A t-shirt was given to the individual to defuse the situation when he got upset that he couldn’t compete.
Baseball – A prospective student-athlete received a complimentary admission to a home baseball game during a dead period.
Women’s Hockey – A former assistant coach inadvertently sent an email to a 2014 prospective student-athlete when the prospect was mistakenly entered into the recruiting data base by the previous coaching staff as a 2013 graduate.
Football – The program understood the aunt of a prospective student-athlete was his legal guardian and provided food and lodging expenses to her for the official visit.
Football – An assistant coach inadvertently posted on the Facebook wall of a 2013 prospective student-athlete, believing at the time he was using the email inbox function of Facebook.

I was referring to this...

http://www.thelantern.com/campus/gene-smith-more-ncaa-violations-are-pending-1.2874236#.T7-r99VYvnh

Not sure if that is the list you provided or not. I assume that is what Mark May's response is about.

WebFire;1181844 wrote:I was referring to this...

http://www.thelantern.com/campus/gene-smith-more-ncaa-violations-are-pending-1.2874236#.T7-r99VYvnh

Not sure if that is the list you provided or not. I assume that is what Mark May's response is about.

Yes, those are the violations, and Smith clarified the next day that his statement meant that they may be secondary or they may be nothing at all.

LJ;1181794 wrote:Did you see the "violations"?


Here are the "violations" if you want to read them


Football – The compliance office approved the use of mini basketballs during a football winter conditioning workout. Men’s Gymnastics – The practice activities of a gymnastics alum were publicized.
Institutional – Two baseball prospective student-athletes arrived on campus for official visits before being placed on the request list.
Institutional – Athletics financial aid agreements were issued to three prospective student-athletes without being signed by the financial aid director.
Football – A former assistant football coach had an inadvertent contact or “bump” with a prospective student-athlete.
Field Hockey – A former assistant coach sent an email to a prospective student-athlete believing that she was a 2013 high school graduate.
Men’s Tennis – A high school football coach and friend of the tennis program’s head coach stopped by the tennis training facility unannounced with an assistant coach and four prospective student-athletes during a dead period.
Baseball – A prospective student-athlete in grade 12 registered and showed up for an Ohio State camp for participants in grades 9-11 even though he was told he was not eligible to compete at the camp. A t-shirt was given to the individual to defuse the situation when he got upset that he couldn’t compete.
Baseball – A prospective student-athlete received a complimentary admission to a home baseball game during a dead period.
Women’s Hockey – A former assistant coach inadvertently sent an email to a 2014 prospective student-athlete when the prospect was mistakenly entered into the recruiting data base by the previous coaching staff as a 2013 graduate.
Football – The program understood the aunt of a prospective student-athlete was his legal guardian and provided food and lodging expenses to her for the official visit.
Football – An assistant coach inadvertently posted on the Facebook wall of a 2013 prospective student-athlete, believing at the time he was using the email inbox function of Facebook.

Things like this just continue to show what a joke the NCAA rule book is. If anyone has taken the time to look at one, its ridiculous in terms of complexities and length.

As for these, EVERY school reports these violations. Obviously, and rightfully so, OSU is under a microscope so IDIOTS like May are going to run their mouth. I also heard, OSU is one of the FEW schools who publicize these violations. Most schools do not make them public or just report them behind the scenes.

OSU is the most hated school in the country. But we are hated because we win and there is nothing wrong with winning.

centralbucksfan;1181908 wrote:Things like this just continue to show what a joke the NCAA rule book is. If anyone has taken the time to look at one, its ridiculous in terms of complexities and length.

Agree. My favorite...

Baseball – A prospective student-athlete in grade 12 registered and showed up for an Ohio State camp for participants in grades 9-11 even though he was told he was not eligible to compete at the camp. A t-shirt was given to the individual to defuse the situation when he got upset that he couldn’t compete.

If any of you remember Jamel Turner from a few years ago..looks like he is going to end up at Akron.