2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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Feb 4, 2012 10:27am
buckeyes_woowee;1074665 wrote:S&L what is up your ass dude?
Never really been up there, but I'm assuming shit?
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Feb 4, 2012 12:04pm
Along with a gerbil and a few used condoms...
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Feb 4, 2012 3:51pm
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Feb 4, 2012 9:34pm
DQ Jackson finishes 2nd in the Comeback Player of the Year award...
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Feb 4, 2012 11:32pm
I was reading an article today about RGIII in which it is speculated his stock is going to go parabolic around the combine time.

He is going to score amazingly on his Wonderlic many seem to think given how smart he is, and if he has a blow the doors off 40 and personal workout the phone lines are going to be burning up for St. Louis.

I think that is why Fisher is already planting those seeds.

Interestingly though RGIII today said he doesn't want to go to a team that mortgages the future to trade up and get him because he will then have a harder time succeeding. That was interesting to me.

Regardless, RGIII should be sending Cam Newton a thank you note because NFL GM's are far more open minded to his style of play and tools now after the success Cam had last year as a rookie with a similar skill set.

The buzz around him really seems to be growing of late considering all the reviews I have seen from people about him talking on radio row this week with the media.
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Feb 5, 2012 1:30am
IggyPride00;1075502 wrote:
Regardless, RGIII should be sending Cam Newton a thank you note because NFL GM's are far more open minded to his style of play and tools now after the success Cam had last year as a rookie with a similar skill set.
I don't think they have a similar skill set, I think RGIII is a much better thrower.
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Feb 5, 2012 2:23am
lhslep134;1075568 wrote:I don't think they have a similar skill set, I think RGIII is a much better thrower.
Both ran a spread type offense in college, didn't take snaps from under center, used their legs alot and were very athletic, and both have very strong throwing arms.

How does that not constitute a similar skill set?
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Feb 5, 2012 10:51am
I can't see McNabb agreeing to sign as a mentor. And I really don't want him as a starter. His best days are behind him.
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Feb 5, 2012 1:35pm
IggyPride00;1075576 wrote:Both ran a spread type offense in college, didn't take snaps from under center
That has nothing to do with skillset unless you really put a lot of stock in the ability to grab a ball from under center and think it's hard to learn how to do lol.

Skillset would be throwing power, throwing accuracy, athleticism, other QB intangibles. Griffin is faster and more agile, Newton is stronger and runs harder. They both have strong arms, but Griffin is a much more accurate passer. I don't think their skillsets are as close as you make them out to be.
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Feb 5, 2012 3:49pm
The Fake ESPN@TheFakeESPN
Super Bowl Sunday is a day of excess, we should take a moment to reflect on the world's least fortunate: Browns Fans



funny and sad all at the same time
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Feb 5, 2012 4:05pm
defense with the 4th pick. interesting.. the only way i see that happening is if RGIII and Blackmon are gone by our first pick.
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Feb 5, 2012 4:18pm
shook_17;1075980 wrote:defense with the 4th pick. interesting.. the only way i see that happening is if RGIII and Blackmon are gone by our first pick.
Blackmon will be, but I don't think they take him.

I see Minnesota or St. Louis trading their pick to someone who wants RGIII, and the other one will take Kalil as they both have young QB's who desperately need O-line help.

I am starting to get the feeling the Browns may very well go defense as well, since I don't think they like any offensive players enough to draft that high, and once Luck/RGIII are off the board there is no real stud that teams are going to be wild about trading up to get.
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Feb 5, 2012 4:26pm
I wouldn't mind the lb from Boston college at number 4
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Feb 5, 2012 4:41pm
Crimson streak;1076012 wrote:I wouldn't mind the lb from Boston college at number 4
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Feb 5, 2012 4:45pm
Mulva;1076027 wrote:
This.
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Feb 5, 2012 5:14pm
Mulva;1076027 wrote:
and one more for good measure
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Feb 5, 2012 5:18pm
Yeah, Kuechley at #4...not such a good idea. Good player but he'd probably be there if they traded down to 12-15.
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Feb 5, 2012 5:20pm
I've seen some mocks with him going at 9-10. But with a good combine he could move up. Honestly I would love to trade down if we don't get rg3
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Feb 5, 2012 5:26pm
Crimson streak;1076063 wrote:I've seen some mocks with him going at 9-10. But with a good combine he could move up. Honestly I would love to trade down if we don't get rg3
Very good player but he'd have to have a ridiculous Combine to leapfrog guys like Claiborne, Blackmon, etc to get picked at #4. Agree with your second statement about trading down if RG3 is gone. They'd better have some sort of legit plan for a starting QB though.
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Feb 5, 2012 10:21pm
BR1986FB;1076069 wrote:Very good player but he'd have to have a ridiculous Combine to leapfrog guys like Claiborne, Blackmon, etc to get picked at #4. Agree with your second statement about trading down if RG3 is gone. They'd better have some sort of legit plan for a starting QB though.

what do you care, you won't go to the browns games..pretty pathetic
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Feb 6, 2012 5:27am
DeyDurkie5;1076568 wrote:what do you care, you won't go to the browns games..pretty pathetic
Why...because I don't want to sit with the most CHILDISH, bottle throwing fan base in the NFL? Idiots hold that "event" as some kind of "badge of honor." Really don't want to be associated with it. Have BETTER things to do with my time. I also work from home on Sunday's prepping for the coming Monday workday. Money is more important to me than driving 3 hours round trip to sit with a bunch of drunks. NO thanks!
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Feb 6, 2012 5:52am
BR1986FB;1076795 wrote:Why...because I don't want to sit with the most CHILDISH, bottle throwing fan base in the NFL? Idiots hold that "event" as some kind of "badge of honor." Really don't want to be associated with it. Have BETTER things to do with my time. I also work from home on Sunday's prepping for the coming Monday workday. Money is more important to me than driving 3 hours round trip to sit with a bunch of drunks. NO thanks!
so Browns fans are the most childish fans in the NFL and they're idiots. Gtfooh you Colt hater. We don't need you at the games anyway.
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Feb 6, 2012 7:42am
derek bomar;1076797 wrote: We don't need you at the games anyway.
Cool. Wasn't planning on attending any yet some people are on a mission to make sure that I go when I REALLY have no interest in doing so.
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Feb 6, 2012 8:37am
After watching the Giants and their receivers last night, it just reaffirmed how bad the Browns WRs are. There's nobody on our roster that makes the catch Manningham made, and he's the 3rd option. Nicks and Cruz catch everything in their general vicinity. Browns WR's have perfect passes bounce off their chests.