2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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Nov 3, 2012 8:25pm
shook_17;1311601 wrote:im saying this year. lee is having an unreal year.

also chip kelly's offense already has 34 points in the first half. if pat shurmur fails. id love to have this guy here. his offense is great. he is creative and knows how to use his players. i know he will need to change his offense but im sure he can adapt.

EDIT: doesn't wood have problems catching the ball?

Chip Belly isn't going anywhere.
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Nov 3, 2012 8:27pm
^^ you must know chip then huh? you have proof that he isn't leaving?
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Nov 3, 2012 8:37pm
wildcats20;1311619 wrote:Chip Belly isn't going anywhere.

Ehh he almost left last year
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Nov 3, 2012 8:38pm
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/10/31/mid-season-all-afc-north-team/

the all division team thus far. i think its a joke. Joe Thomas doesn't make it at tackle, Mack is the lone player on offense. and defense is safety TJ Ward, Sheldon Brown, Joe Haden.
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Nov 4, 2012 12:21am
shook_17;1311640 wrote:https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/10/31/mid-season-all-afc-north-team/

the all division team thus far. i think its a joke. Joe Thomas doesn't make it at tackle, Mack is the lone player on offense. and defense is safety TJ Ward, Sheldon Brown, Joe Haden.
We're still 25th in scoring offense and 29th in total offense. As much as some people want to say "OMG the offense is actually fun to watch this year!", reality is it still sucks. Thomas is obviously the best LT in the division, but injuries slowing him up or not he wasn't playing like it for the first 3-4 games. Nobody else is even close to deserving over the players named.

Not surprised to see Burfict on there. I will never understand why teams don't take a shot at guys like Burfict (or Winn, Dennard, Polk) before round 6 or 7. They obviously have talent. Injury/character concerns shouldn't slide them that far. It's a huge flaw in the NFL drafting process in my opinion, given how few 5th rounders and later turn into legitimate contributors.
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Nov 4, 2012 1:09am
Mulva;1311888 wrote:We're still 25th in scoring offense and 29th in total offense. As much as some people want to say "OMG the offense is actually fun to watch this year!", reality is it still sucks. Thomas is obviously the best LT in the division, but injuries slowing him up or not he wasn't playing like it for the first 3-4 games. Nobody else is even close to deserving over the players named.

Not surprised to see Burfict on there. I will never understand why teams don't take a shot at guys like Burfict (or Winn, Dennard, Polk) before round 6 or 7. They obviously have talent. Injury/character concerns shouldn't slide them that far. It's a huge flaw in the NFL drafting process in my opinion, given how few 5th rounders and later turn into legitimate contributors.
couldnt agree with this post more.
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Nov 4, 2012 12:11pm
Chip Kelly's offense only looks so good because he has the fastest players that he hand picked. That will never happen with any team in the NFL-too much speed on all teams for that offense to translate well at the next level.
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Nov 4, 2012 12:21pm
I want NOTHING to do with Chip Kelly.
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Nov 4, 2012 12:26pm
Everyone is down on Mario Williams. Further proves my point, FA is fools gold. So glad browns didn't break the bank on some idiotic fa contract.
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Nov 4, 2012 12:30pm
Commander of Awesome;1312081 wrote:Everyone is down on Mario Williams. Further proves my point, FA is fools gold. So glad browns didn't break the bank on some idiotic fa contract.
i saw an article that said he was pushed out of texas because they knew of the depth they had behind him. i was surprised when he signed that fat ass contract.
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Nov 4, 2012 12:32pm
Commander of Awesome;1312081 wrote:Everyone is down on Mario Williams. Further proves my point, FA is fools gold. So glad browns didn't break the bank on some idiotic fa contract.
FA is only fools gold if you are stupid and dont do your homework.
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Nov 4, 2012 12:41pm
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Nov 4, 2012 12:45pm
shook_17;1312089 wrote:http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8592214/sean-payton-deal-new-orleans-saints-voided-nfl-sources-say

Sean Payton for head coach? hes going to be a free agent.
Dont get your hopes up. Id say Cowboys.
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Nov 4, 2012 12:47pm
^^ well lets hope Garrett gets hot and makes the playoffs ha.

but i doubt he leaves New Orleans but you never know.
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Nov 4, 2012 12:53pm
shook_17;1312092 wrote:^^ well lets hope Garrett gets hot and makes the playoffs ha.

but i doubt he leaves New Orleans but you never know.
Yeah, with the contract voided, I really think the means the end of him in NO, but who knows.
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Nov 4, 2012 1:40pm
damn shurmur look what happens when you give richardson the ball
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Nov 4, 2012 3:55pm
Good bye Shurmer
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Nov 4, 2012 7:43pm
The more I see Luck, the more I wish we would have tanked in the Indy and Seattle games.....blah....dude is soooooooo good. Weeden has a ceiling of a middle of the pack qb, but this dude.....is going to be amazing.
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Nov 4, 2012 7:49pm
wes_mantooth;1312581 wrote:The more I see Luck, the more I wish we would have tanked in the Indy and Seattle games.....blah....dude is soooooooo good. Weeden has a ceiling of a middle of the pack qb, but this dude.....is going to be amazing.

I agree it sucks.
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Nov 4, 2012 7:55pm
wes_mantooth;1312581 wrote:The more I see Luck, the more I wish we would have tanked in the Indy and Seattle games.....blah....dude is soooooooo good. Weeden has a ceiling of a middle of the pack qb, but this dude.....is going to be amazing.
right lol. he just went off today. it was unreal
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Nov 4, 2012 7:58pm
wes_mantooth;1312581 wrote:The more I see Luck, the more I wish we would have tanked in the Indy and Seattle games.....blah....dude is soooooooo good. Weeden has a ceiling of a middle of the pack qb, but this dude.....is going to be amazing.
Why is nobody bashing this post? It's saying what I've been saying all along: Weeden is serviceable, but just not someone you can build your offense around. We'll continue to be, at best, 8-8 with Weeden at QB.

Yet, I said I wish we were winless last year so we could get Luck, and people call me a faux fan. Riiiight.
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Nov 4, 2012 8:00pm
SportsAndLady;1312610 wrote:Why is nobody bashing this post? It's saying what I've been saying all along: Weeden is serviceable, but just not someone you can build your offense around. We'll continue to be, at best, 8-8 with Weeden at QB.

Yet, I said I wish we were winless last year so we could get Luck, and people call me a faux fan. Riiiight.
lol, probably because i dont go on and on and on about it. I just have a mancrush on Luck
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Nov 4, 2012 8:02pm
wes_mantooth;1312613 wrote:lol, probably because i dont go on and on and on about it. I just have a mancrush on Luck
Well if people weren't deepthroating Weeden!!
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Nov 4, 2012 8:04pm
I would rate Weeden as the worst starting rookie right now. What do you guys think?
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Nov 4, 2012 8:05pm
wes_mantooth;1312613 wrote:I just have a mancrush on Luck
Me too. Got him as my starting QB in my big keeper league and planning on having him his entire career, lol.