shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Jul 31, 2012 5:00pm
im just busting your balls. i don't remember.wes_mantooth;1238042 wrote:I don't care, I just thought we went to a new thread last training camp
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jul 31, 2012 5:06pm
shook_17;1238044 wrote:that sucks. sorry bro! maybe NFL network?
Time warner. Fml. I'm sure I'll stream somewhere online.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Jul 31, 2012 5:10pm
i have time warner and they suck ass. absolutely hate them.Midstate01;1238047 wrote:Time warner. Fml. I'm sure I'll stream somewhere online.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 31, 2012 5:13pm
wes_mantooth;1238037 wrote:Someone want to start up a season thread....bout that time
Fuck that shit, keep this thread rolling.wes_mantooth;1238042 wrote:I don't care, I just thought we went to a new thread last training camp
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 31, 2012 5:56pm
I agree 100% with like_that. Keep this thread alive.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 31, 2012 5:59pm
I would quit sports if this happened:
OK, here’s where the conspiracy theory kicks in.
Adams moves his Titans to the Los Angeles market, leaving Nashville to Haslam. It makes good sense from an NFL standpoint. Haslam the billionaire, even though he promised never to move the Browns, would have no trouble breaking the Cleveland stadium lease (which ends in 2029) because he can more than afford to pay it off.
OK, here’s where the conspiracy theory kicks in.
Adams moves his Titans to the Los Angeles market, leaving Nashville to Haslam. It makes good sense from an NFL standpoint. Haslam the billionaire, even though he promised never to move the Browns, would have no trouble breaking the Cleveland stadium lease (which ends in 2029) because he can more than afford to pay it off.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Jul 31, 2012 6:06pm
^^ wowwwwww. i don't think the NFL owners would approve that. it goes to a vote doesn't it?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 31, 2012 6:59pm
Thinking out loud
A little of this and a little of that . . .
Now is not the time of the season to be gnashing teeth over what the Browns are trying to accomplish.
Chill, people. This is training camp, for goodness sake, that time of the year when things go wrong and not much is done correctly. That’s why training camp is held. To identify and then correct those mistakes.
So what if Brandon Weeden throws a couple of interceptions? Or fumbles a snap? Or misses a wide-open receiver? Or parts his hair on the wrong side?
So what if Mo Massaquoi runs the wrong route that leads to one of those interceptions? Or drops a perfect pass? Or parts his hair on the wrong side?
So what if Trent Richardson misses a block? Or has trouble holding on to swing passes? Or fails to hit the right hole? Or parts his hair . . .
Get a grip, guys and gals. No need to get bent out of shape. This is training camp (not spelled out in capital letters deliberately, although the urge to do so is increasingly difficult to control). It’s the time of season dedicated to the learning process.
Now if this all spills over into the regular season, that’s an entirely different matter.
Weeden, who seems to be an intelligent man, is a rookie. And rookies make mistakes. Some are corrected immediately. Others take time. And time will tell whether he’s the real deal.
So cool it with the daily scorecard. Don’t scrutinize and dissect every play in training camp as though it will have a meaningful bearing on what eventually takes place during the regular season.
Instead, watch the learning curve as it unfolds along the way. Are Weeden, Richardson and all the other young pieces and parts improving on a daily basis? Rather than carping on the mistakes of today, concentrate and judge on a comparative basis.
This is a young football team on offense. Be patient with its growth. . . .
Even though it’s not a complete addition by subtraction, the fact that Randy Lerner will eventually slink into the background once the sale of the club to Jimmy Haslam III is complete is a very good sign.
Reportedly, Lerner will retain a 30% stake in the following Haslam’s (reported) $920 million purchase of 70% of the club. That brings the club’s worth to $1.315 billion, far greater than Forbes Magazine’s $977 million estimate.
Given his previous aversion to the spotlight, Lerner’s eventual removal from the every-day operation of the team will make him the quintessential silent partner, a role for which he was born. Remaining in the background is what he does best, anyway. . . .
When the Haslam deal is finally approved and Joe Banner, as strongly rumored, takes over as team president, don’t look for any immediate shakeup on or off the field.
There is worry in some quarters that the new regime will blow the team up again and start over. That will not be the case. If anything, it will be changed slowly because there is a decent-sized core of significant players.
If anything, the Ivory Tower might be blown up sooner and that’s not a bad thing. Haslam and his people will want to create a different culture and atmosphere, which means new faces will take up residence at 76 Lou Groza Blvd. in Berea. . . .
Look for conspiracy theorists to come out in full force once Haslam takes over. Here’s the latest scenario being bounced around the Internet:
Haslam is a huge Tennessee guy. Lives there. He’s a big booster of the Volunteers. His brother is governor there. And was rebuffed in his attempt to purchase the National Football League Titans from Bud Adams.
Factor in now that the league desperately wants to get back into the Los Angeles market, which has been vacant since the Rams left for St. Louis following the 1994 season. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell wants a team in the nation’s second-largest market as soon as possible.
OK, here’s where the conspiracy theory kicks in.
Adams moves his Titans to the Los Angeles market, leaving Nashville to Haslam. It makes good sense from an NFL standpoint. Haslam the billionaire, even though he promised never to move the Browns, would have no trouble breaking the Cleveland stadium lease (which ends in 2029) because he can more than afford to pay it off.
Not saying it’s going to happen. But it certainly has at least a small degree of plausibility.
A little of this and a little of that . . .
Now is not the time of the season to be gnashing teeth over what the Browns are trying to accomplish.
Chill, people. This is training camp, for goodness sake, that time of the year when things go wrong and not much is done correctly. That’s why training camp is held. To identify and then correct those mistakes.
So what if Brandon Weeden throws a couple of interceptions? Or fumbles a snap? Or misses a wide-open receiver? Or parts his hair on the wrong side?
So what if Mo Massaquoi runs the wrong route that leads to one of those interceptions? Or drops a perfect pass? Or parts his hair on the wrong side?
So what if Trent Richardson misses a block? Or has trouble holding on to swing passes? Or fails to hit the right hole? Or parts his hair . . .
Get a grip, guys and gals. No need to get bent out of shape. This is training camp (not spelled out in capital letters deliberately, although the urge to do so is increasingly difficult to control). It’s the time of season dedicated to the learning process.
Now if this all spills over into the regular season, that’s an entirely different matter.
Weeden, who seems to be an intelligent man, is a rookie. And rookies make mistakes. Some are corrected immediately. Others take time. And time will tell whether he’s the real deal.
So cool it with the daily scorecard. Don’t scrutinize and dissect every play in training camp as though it will have a meaningful bearing on what eventually takes place during the regular season.
Instead, watch the learning curve as it unfolds along the way. Are Weeden, Richardson and all the other young pieces and parts improving on a daily basis? Rather than carping on the mistakes of today, concentrate and judge on a comparative basis.
This is a young football team on offense. Be patient with its growth. . . .
Even though it’s not a complete addition by subtraction, the fact that Randy Lerner will eventually slink into the background once the sale of the club to Jimmy Haslam III is complete is a very good sign.
Reportedly, Lerner will retain a 30% stake in the following Haslam’s (reported) $920 million purchase of 70% of the club. That brings the club’s worth to $1.315 billion, far greater than Forbes Magazine’s $977 million estimate.
Given his previous aversion to the spotlight, Lerner’s eventual removal from the every-day operation of the team will make him the quintessential silent partner, a role for which he was born. Remaining in the background is what he does best, anyway. . . .
When the Haslam deal is finally approved and Joe Banner, as strongly rumored, takes over as team president, don’t look for any immediate shakeup on or off the field.
There is worry in some quarters that the new regime will blow the team up again and start over. That will not be the case. If anything, it will be changed slowly because there is a decent-sized core of significant players.
If anything, the Ivory Tower might be blown up sooner and that’s not a bad thing. Haslam and his people will want to create a different culture and atmosphere, which means new faces will take up residence at 76 Lou Groza Blvd. in Berea. . . .
Look for conspiracy theorists to come out in full force once Haslam takes over. Here’s the latest scenario being bounced around the Internet:
Haslam is a huge Tennessee guy. Lives there. He’s a big booster of the Volunteers. His brother is governor there. And was rebuffed in his attempt to purchase the National Football League Titans from Bud Adams.
Factor in now that the league desperately wants to get back into the Los Angeles market, which has been vacant since the Rams left for St. Louis following the 1994 season. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell wants a team in the nation’s second-largest market as soon as possible.
OK, here’s where the conspiracy theory kicks in.
Adams moves his Titans to the Los Angeles market, leaving Nashville to Haslam. It makes good sense from an NFL standpoint. Haslam the billionaire, even though he promised never to move the Browns, would have no trouble breaking the Cleveland stadium lease (which ends in 2029) because he can more than afford to pay it off.
Not saying it’s going to happen. But it certainly has at least a small degree of plausibility.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 31, 2012 8:09pm
Don't know where you're watching but I've seen every preseason game on live TV.shook_17;1238027 wrote:the last couple years it hasn't been live on tv, but they replay it on STO at midnight. all preseason games.
B
BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 31, 2012 8:12pm
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
QB coach Mark Whipple with @ viccarucci in studio. pic.twitter.com/C4MJZRfv
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
Whipple on Weeden “I think our style of defense is really going to help him
accelerate at his progression at his position.”
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
More Whipple on QBs “Learning the offense is 1 thing; now you’ve got to learn
about situations & how that other guys going to play.”
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
Whipple on Weeden “We want to do things he’s not comfortable with so we can
expand his knowledge & weaponry.”
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
Whipple on QBs “That’s the thing about this league, you never stop learning.
There’s a thirst for knowledge from all 4 of them.”
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
Whipple on McCoy “His footwork is so much better, so much improved. His
rhythm for the game. He’s playing better than he ever has.”
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
Whipple on McCoy “He’s a tremendous worker, great person. The guys in the
building believe in him. I’m excited to see him play.”
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
More Whipple on Wallace “He’s playing better than he ever has. Been really
positive & playing at a high level. It’s just been good.”
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
McCoy on what his focus is this season “Just get a little better & I
think I’ve accomplished that.”
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
McCoy on TC “I feel good, my body feels healthy. Things are slowing down
offensively. I understand as opposed to trying to learn last yr.”
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
Lewis on inside the meeting room “It’s all business & what they expect out of us on the field & how we put it on the field when we step out
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
@ SI_peterking on Browns “These are clearly
great additions for this team. I think the additions are going to make guys here
better.”
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
@ SI_peterking on Browns “1 of the problems
they’ve had in the past is just not enough talented skill
players.”
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
@ SI_peterking on Browns “You need multiple
backs, WRs, & personally I don’t know what they’re doing w/ McCoy. They
should hang on to him.”
Browns_Daily
QB coach Mark Whipple with @ viccarucci in studio. pic.twitter.com/C4MJZRfv
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
Whipple on Weeden “I think our style of defense is really going to help him
accelerate at his progression at his position.”
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
More Whipple on QBs “Learning the offense is 1 thing; now you’ve got to learn
about situations & how that other guys going to play.”
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
Whipple on Weeden “We want to do things he’s not comfortable with so we can
expand his knowledge & weaponry.”
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
Whipple on QBs “That’s the thing about this league, you never stop learning.
There’s a thirst for knowledge from all 4 of them.”
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
Whipple on McCoy “His footwork is so much better, so much improved. His
rhythm for the game. He’s playing better than he ever has.”
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
Whipple on McCoy “He’s a tremendous worker, great person. The guys in the
building believe in him. I’m excited to see him play.”
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
More Whipple on Wallace “He’s playing better than he ever has. Been really
positive & playing at a high level. It’s just been good.”
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
McCoy on what his focus is this season “Just get a little better & I
think I’ve accomplished that.”
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
McCoy on TC “I feel good, my body feels healthy. Things are slowing down
offensively. I understand as opposed to trying to learn last yr.”
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
Lewis on inside the meeting room “It’s all business & what they expect out of us on the field & how we put it on the field when we step out
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
@ SI_peterking on Browns “These are clearly
great additions for this team. I think the additions are going to make guys here
better.”
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
@ SI_peterking on Browns “1 of the problems
they’ve had in the past is just not enough talented skill
players.”
Browns_Daily ‏ @
Browns_Daily
@ SI_peterking on Browns “You need multiple
backs, WRs, & personally I don’t know what they’re doing w/ McCoy. They
should hang on to him.”
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jul 31, 2012 8:12pm
NBC has always shown them for me. I'm not sure what happened when the Beijing Olympics were on, though.
B
BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 31, 2012 8:27pm
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 31, 2012 9:13pm
Only if we change the thread titlelike_that;1238052 wrote:Fuck that shit, keep this thread rolling.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Jul 31, 2012 10:04pm
I live near toledo BR. What about you?BR1986FB;1238128 wrote:Don't know where you're watching but I've seen every preseason game on live TV.
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Jul 31, 2012 10:33pm
i do remember not being able to watch the browns pre-season games when i was at bg. i think toledo's nbc affiliate only showed the lions. never understood why one of the other three channels couldnt televise the brownsshook_17;1238198 wrote:I live near toledo BR. What about you?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 31, 2012 10:45pm
Then change the thread title.SportsAndLady;1238166 wrote:Only if we change the thread title
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 31, 2012 10:56pm
Wow change the GOAT OC thread's title bc one person QQs? Bring back the old like_that.like_that;1238232 wrote:Then change the thread title.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 31, 2012 11:03pm
Grasping for fails because you are butt hurt about being a new COA I see. Once the season starts, it no longer will be an "offseason," thus it would be appropriate to change the thread title to "regular season thread." Nice comprehension fail.Commander of Awesome;1238243 wrote:Wow change the ultimate OC thread title bc one person QQs? Bring back the old like_that.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 31, 2012 11:05pm
Only Wes has that authority....(jeebus help us). Change offseason name only. Nice clarification fail.
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
Jul 31, 2012 11:08pm
We are all Browns fan.
PEACE PEACE
PEACE PEACE
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 31, 2012 11:12pm
Let this thread be a lesson to new thread starters.
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?28458-2011-Cleveland-Browns-Season-thread&highlight=Browns
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?28458-2011-Cleveland-Browns-Season-thread&highlight=Browns
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 31, 2012 11:15pm
LMAO at the one post. I like OQB, but I remember you calling him out for trying to get vcash with the new thread. As you can see his attempt was a huge failure. Also pretty crazy last years "off season" thread was "only" 181 pages.Commander of Awesome;1238260 wrote:Let this thread be a lesson to new thread starters.
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?28458-2011-Cleveland-Browns-Season-thread&highlight=Browns
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
Jul 31, 2012 11:15pm
I think we should start a new thread so we can see every year if we can beat our old one!
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 31, 2012 11:16pm
Yeah, we can start a new thread after the season is over, just like we did last year.ohiobucks1;1238266 wrote:I think we should start a new thread so we can see every year if we can beat our old one!
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 31, 2012 11:16pm
Negs.ohiobucks1;1238266 wrote:I think we should start a new thread so we can see every year if we can beat our old one!