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4200 in attendance today. Most since 2005...
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Observations from 1st day in pads Posted by Vic Carucci on July 29, 2012 – 6:24 pm
By Vic Carucci, Senior Editor
Here are some observations from the Browns’ first day in pads at training camp:
>>There was some typical sloppiness that comes from the first day of contact drills. The dramatic surge in practice tempo always catches rookies off-guard, and it even seemed to have a few of the veterans a little wobbly at times. You saw miscommunication between quarterbacks and receivers, some misfired throws, a fumbled snap, and the need for regrouping among offensive players and coaches here and there. A little more yelling could be heard from the coaches than was the case during the previous two days of camp. Again, very ordinary stuff for the first day of pads.
>>Brandon Weeden looked very much like a rookie quarterback at times. He made some poor decisions, one of which led to an interception. But the errors he did make were mostly out of his willingness to challenge the defense deep with his strong arm. Weeden calls himself an “aggressive thrower,” and that has been evident throughout the first few days of camp. He performed better on Sunday than he did on Saturday, largely because he is a perfectionist and took the time (staying up until past midnight Sunday) to study the corrections he needed to make.
>>The fan support was absolutely inspiring. The crowd of roughly 4,200 was the most for a single practice session since the team began tracking camp attendance in 2005. It says that people are pretty excited about the infusion of talent from the draft and supplemental draft, and anxious to see what sort of strides have been made to improve over last year. It also says that it was a great way to spend picture-perfect, sun-splashed day.
>>The emphasis Sunday was on running the ball, because that’s what contact best allows the coaches to assess. And for the most part, what the Browns did in that area was encouraging. The offensive line got its share of victories. Guards Jason Pinkston and Shawn Lauvao were particularly impressive. The Browns did bulk of their running to the left, behind Pinkston and left tackle Joe Thomas.
>>Several passing plays included five-step drops, which allows for longer routes to develop. Browns coach Pat Shurmur clearly has plenty of confidence in Weeden, his offensive line, and his receivers to take that approach in what he no doubt sees as a more attack-oriented passing game.
>>The defensive line was mostly solid inside, despite the absences of tackles Ahtyba Rubin and Phil Taylor. Rookie tackles John Hughes and Billy Winn had some turns to work next to each other, and looked good. Veterans Brian Schaefering and Scott Paxson also worked together in the middle. Make no mistake: The sooner Rubin and Taylor return, the better, but in the meantime, but the Browns do have some decent answers. Rubin is expected to return soon, although Taylor is likely to miss part of the regular season.
>>Montarrio Hardesty stole the show at running back. He showed exceptional speed and explosiveness on outside runs, and held his own between the tackles. Hardesty definitely has entered this camp wanting to make a statement that, despite Trent Richardson being selected with the third overall pick and already being named the starting running back, he is still capable of making a significant contribution.
>>Richardson caught everyone’s attention when he snagged a short pass from Brandon Weeden, made a quick cut and then tore upfield in a flash.
>>Rookie receiver Josh Gordon continued to show his exceptional physical skills by running smooth routes, catching the ball well, and utilizing all of his 6-foot-3, 225-pound frame to separate from defenders.
>>Receiver Greg Little did some work from the slot. The idea is to find a way to have him and Gordon on the field as much as possible with the other receivers as much as possible, although it seems to be a role with which he will need some time to get comfortable.
http://blogs.clevelandbrowns.com/2012/07/29/observations-from-1st-day-in-pads/
By Vic Carucci, Senior Editor
Here are some observations from the Browns’ first day in pads at training camp:
>>There was some typical sloppiness that comes from the first day of contact drills. The dramatic surge in practice tempo always catches rookies off-guard, and it even seemed to have a few of the veterans a little wobbly at times. You saw miscommunication between quarterbacks and receivers, some misfired throws, a fumbled snap, and the need for regrouping among offensive players and coaches here and there. A little more yelling could be heard from the coaches than was the case during the previous two days of camp. Again, very ordinary stuff for the first day of pads.
>>Brandon Weeden looked very much like a rookie quarterback at times. He made some poor decisions, one of which led to an interception. But the errors he did make were mostly out of his willingness to challenge the defense deep with his strong arm. Weeden calls himself an “aggressive thrower,” and that has been evident throughout the first few days of camp. He performed better on Sunday than he did on Saturday, largely because he is a perfectionist and took the time (staying up until past midnight Sunday) to study the corrections he needed to make.
>>The fan support was absolutely inspiring. The crowd of roughly 4,200 was the most for a single practice session since the team began tracking camp attendance in 2005. It says that people are pretty excited about the infusion of talent from the draft and supplemental draft, and anxious to see what sort of strides have been made to improve over last year. It also says that it was a great way to spend picture-perfect, sun-splashed day.
>>The emphasis Sunday was on running the ball, because that’s what contact best allows the coaches to assess. And for the most part, what the Browns did in that area was encouraging. The offensive line got its share of victories. Guards Jason Pinkston and Shawn Lauvao were particularly impressive. The Browns did bulk of their running to the left, behind Pinkston and left tackle Joe Thomas.
>>Several passing plays included five-step drops, which allows for longer routes to develop. Browns coach Pat Shurmur clearly has plenty of confidence in Weeden, his offensive line, and his receivers to take that approach in what he no doubt sees as a more attack-oriented passing game.
>>The defensive line was mostly solid inside, despite the absences of tackles Ahtyba Rubin and Phil Taylor. Rookie tackles John Hughes and Billy Winn had some turns to work next to each other, and looked good. Veterans Brian Schaefering and Scott Paxson also worked together in the middle. Make no mistake: The sooner Rubin and Taylor return, the better, but in the meantime, but the Browns do have some decent answers. Rubin is expected to return soon, although Taylor is likely to miss part of the regular season.
>>Montarrio Hardesty stole the show at running back. He showed exceptional speed and explosiveness on outside runs, and held his own between the tackles. Hardesty definitely has entered this camp wanting to make a statement that, despite Trent Richardson being selected with the third overall pick and already being named the starting running back, he is still capable of making a significant contribution.
>>Richardson caught everyone’s attention when he snagged a short pass from Brandon Weeden, made a quick cut and then tore upfield in a flash.
>>Rookie receiver Josh Gordon continued to show his exceptional physical skills by running smooth routes, catching the ball well, and utilizing all of his 6-foot-3, 225-pound frame to separate from defenders.
>>Receiver Greg Little did some work from the slot. The idea is to find a way to have him and Gordon on the field as much as possible with the other receivers as much as possible, although it seems to be a role with which he will need some time to get comfortable.
http://blogs.clevelandbrowns.com/2012/07/29/observations-from-1st-day-in-pads/
Mr Miyagi
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Jul 29, 2012 8:24pm
>>Montarrio Hardesty stole the show at running back. He showed exceptional speed and explosiveness on outside runs, and held his own between the tackles. Hardesty definitely has entered this camp wanting to make a statement that, despite Trent Richardson being selected with the third overall pick and already being named the starting running back, he is still capable of making a significant contribution.
This should make COA a happy man!
This should make COA a happy man!
Commander of Awesome
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Jul 29, 2012 10:22pm
Ugh, believe it when I see it.
Commander of Awesome
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Jul 29, 2012 10:23pm
Yeah, he's a pussy.like_that;1236444 wrote:Can somebody remind me what is wrong with Moore?
Commander of Awesome
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Jul 29, 2012 10:36pm
Report: Lerner To Retain 30 Percent Stake 29th July, 2012 - 2:51 pm Cleveland Plain Dealer - While he is looking to sell a majority of his stake in the franchise, Randy Lerner will retain a 30 percent share of the team. Lerner is selling controlling interest in the Browns to truck stop magnate Jimmy Haslam. [READ] Read more: http://football.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/28234/20120729/report_lerner_to_retain_30_percent_stake/#ixzz224NxZ0GK
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Jul 30, 2012 5:26am
Dustin Fox' take on practice...
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2012/07/29/observations-from-the-first-full-day-in-pads/#.UBX9rlv4XPI.facebook
Really like the prospect of Little in the slot with MoMass & Gordon out wide. Add in Benjamin on 4 receiver sets and we could be looking at a decent receiving corps.
Like what I'm hearing, so far, about Hardesty. If he could bounce back and provide a nice 1-2 punch with T-Rich, this offense could be significantly better than expected.
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2012/07/29/observations-from-the-first-full-day-in-pads/#.UBX9rlv4XPI.facebook
Really like the prospect of Little in the slot with MoMass & Gordon out wide. Add in Benjamin on 4 receiver sets and we could be looking at a decent receiving corps.
Like what I'm hearing, so far, about Hardesty. If he could bounce back and provide a nice 1-2 punch with T-Rich, this offense could be significantly better than expected.
Commander of Awesome
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Jul 30, 2012 5:59am
That would be nice, especially since if not, and Richardson is out we have to watch Alex Smith get the ball on 4th and 1.BR1986FB;1236825 wrote: Like what I'm hearing, so far, about Hardesty. If he could bounce back and provide a nice 1-2 punch with T-Rich, this offense could be significantly better than expected.
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BR1986FB
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Jul 30, 2012 8:24am
I know you were being facetious but I think Smelley is going to take Alex Smith's roster spot.Commander of Awesome;1236826 wrote:That would be nice, especially since if not, and Richardson is out we have to watch Alex Smith get the ball on 4th and 1.
Commander of Awesome
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Jul 30, 2012 8:27am
I would think China Doll Moore is more on the roster bubble than Alex Smith.
Commander of Awesome
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Jul 30, 2012 12:45pm
This was posted on another forum, figured some would like to hear a different perspective from TC.
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Went to camp today, so here are my thoughts:
QB: There is an obvious difference between Weeden's arm and McCoy's arm. Weeden's ball just gets to where it needs to be on time. McCoy's ball is always a step late. It's a noticeable difference, because instead of receivers reaching back for a pass, the ball is right where it needs to be. Weeden sometimes overthrows where he needs to put the ball, but it seems like every time he does overthrow, it's near a sideline. I think Wallace is a better backup than McCoy too. McCoy is not advanced enough mentally to make up for the lack of velocity on his ball.
RB: Richardson is a tank, yet can move extremely well. His one cut and run approach is great and I cannot wait to see what it's like in full contact in a game. Hardesty is obviously much more slim and much quicker this year. He looks very good in practice. If he has the right instincts, then he'll be a GREAT #2 RB. Also, Brandon Jackson knows how to make all the moves. His cut backs are perfectly timed and catch an over pursuing defense. Obi-Wan is awful. RB is definitely the strength of this team. Also, I prefer Smelley to OM. Smelley is bigger, stronger, and more instinctive with some good hands.
WR: Gordon is an absolute monster. He bullies DB's around and makes a huge target for the WR. He'll fight for balls and literally beat up the DB while doing so. Little was very solid today as well, although he did have a couple of drops. The surprise player was Mo Mass without a doubt. He was making a lot of catches, looking like a very solid #2 guy. I think they have 3 guys who are very good and all provide some different things. I think Norwood got hurt some today, as he was hardly out there. Other Guys of note include Josh Cooper, who seems to have carved out a niche as a guy who gets open underneath the coverage, and I liked what I saw from Benjamin. Although he couldn't get open, he was making some solid, over the middle catches.
TE: Watson is still solid, Cameron has made some strides, although either guys are missing him or he's not getting open enough, and Alex Smith is one of the worst football players I have ever seen. Also of note: Dan Gronkowski was a good player today. I'd keep him over Smith, JMO.
OL: They struggled today, and I'll tell you why later. Obviously the line has a feel, and there is no pressure coming from up the middle or the left side. Mitchel Schwartz had some problems today, but for his second day in pads as a pro, I expect him to struggle against...who he was going up against. Of note: Ryan Miller is one of the biggest people I have ever seen. He played LT and he is just a road grating run blocker. Not much in pass protection. Also, this group is feisty. One minor skirmish and one bigger fight today between the OL and DL.
DL: Sheard is an animal. He was destroying Schwartz all day and I was standing right in front of the DL drills. He's fast, he's strong, he's just a well built, fast, strong, smart player. He's going to the pro bowl in a few years. Billy Winn is also memorable. That guy is all speed and quickness. He needs to work on his strength but he's showing good technique and he had a non-stop motor today. I did notice Frostee Rucker working with a lot of the younger guys today, teaching them hand placement and how to take control of their man. Rucker looked good. John Hughes is a big dude, built thick. He's got average quickness and speed but once he refines his technique, he'll be tough to break past. Benard was the first one to the next drills and was working hard, being much more vocal than I ever remember. I think he realizes that he . up last year and he's working hard to get better.
LB: Didn't notice D'Qwell or Gocong today. Fujita was out there, not much more to say. The one guy who was probably the most impressive guy in camp today was JMJ. Two picks on passing plays and he absolutely MURDERED someone on the goal line. The play happened right in front of me and I felt the ground shake when he hit Richardson. I think this guy is going to be a Day 1 starter. Acho is also a big guy that they were playing at Middle Linebacker. JMJ was outside.
DB: Haden made a couple of pass breaks, Ward knocked a guy on his ass by just tapping him with his shoulders. Didn't notice any DB getting beat deep, and I did notice how solid of coverage Hagg had on a lot of guys. The guy is a big, rangy safety that we have been looking for. He is in for a big year, I think.
Overall, this team will live and die by their QB play. Unlike last year, the QB will have a lot of weapons between Watson, Richardson, Little, and Gordon. The defense will be solid, middle of the road team, especially with Rubin and Taylor back. If we can get good, consistent QB play, I think 7-9 wins is possible. If Weeden struggles, like I do expect him to do, I think 5 wins is about what we'll see. Team is definitely on the right path, though. "
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Went to camp today, so here are my thoughts:
QB: There is an obvious difference between Weeden's arm and McCoy's arm. Weeden's ball just gets to where it needs to be on time. McCoy's ball is always a step late. It's a noticeable difference, because instead of receivers reaching back for a pass, the ball is right where it needs to be. Weeden sometimes overthrows where he needs to put the ball, but it seems like every time he does overthrow, it's near a sideline. I think Wallace is a better backup than McCoy too. McCoy is not advanced enough mentally to make up for the lack of velocity on his ball.
RB: Richardson is a tank, yet can move extremely well. His one cut and run approach is great and I cannot wait to see what it's like in full contact in a game. Hardesty is obviously much more slim and much quicker this year. He looks very good in practice. If he has the right instincts, then he'll be a GREAT #2 RB. Also, Brandon Jackson knows how to make all the moves. His cut backs are perfectly timed and catch an over pursuing defense. Obi-Wan is awful. RB is definitely the strength of this team. Also, I prefer Smelley to OM. Smelley is bigger, stronger, and more instinctive with some good hands.
WR: Gordon is an absolute monster. He bullies DB's around and makes a huge target for the WR. He'll fight for balls and literally beat up the DB while doing so. Little was very solid today as well, although he did have a couple of drops. The surprise player was Mo Mass without a doubt. He was making a lot of catches, looking like a very solid #2 guy. I think they have 3 guys who are very good and all provide some different things. I think Norwood got hurt some today, as he was hardly out there. Other Guys of note include Josh Cooper, who seems to have carved out a niche as a guy who gets open underneath the coverage, and I liked what I saw from Benjamin. Although he couldn't get open, he was making some solid, over the middle catches.
TE: Watson is still solid, Cameron has made some strides, although either guys are missing him or he's not getting open enough, and Alex Smith is one of the worst football players I have ever seen. Also of note: Dan Gronkowski was a good player today. I'd keep him over Smith, JMO.
OL: They struggled today, and I'll tell you why later. Obviously the line has a feel, and there is no pressure coming from up the middle or the left side. Mitchel Schwartz had some problems today, but for his second day in pads as a pro, I expect him to struggle against...who he was going up against. Of note: Ryan Miller is one of the biggest people I have ever seen. He played LT and he is just a road grating run blocker. Not much in pass protection. Also, this group is feisty. One minor skirmish and one bigger fight today between the OL and DL.
DL: Sheard is an animal. He was destroying Schwartz all day and I was standing right in front of the DL drills. He's fast, he's strong, he's just a well built, fast, strong, smart player. He's going to the pro bowl in a few years. Billy Winn is also memorable. That guy is all speed and quickness. He needs to work on his strength but he's showing good technique and he had a non-stop motor today. I did notice Frostee Rucker working with a lot of the younger guys today, teaching them hand placement and how to take control of their man. Rucker looked good. John Hughes is a big dude, built thick. He's got average quickness and speed but once he refines his technique, he'll be tough to break past. Benard was the first one to the next drills and was working hard, being much more vocal than I ever remember. I think he realizes that he . up last year and he's working hard to get better.
LB: Didn't notice D'Qwell or Gocong today. Fujita was out there, not much more to say. The one guy who was probably the most impressive guy in camp today was JMJ. Two picks on passing plays and he absolutely MURDERED someone on the goal line. The play happened right in front of me and I felt the ground shake when he hit Richardson. I think this guy is going to be a Day 1 starter. Acho is also a big guy that they were playing at Middle Linebacker. JMJ was outside.
DB: Haden made a couple of pass breaks, Ward knocked a guy on his ass by just tapping him with his shoulders. Didn't notice any DB getting beat deep, and I did notice how solid of coverage Hagg had on a lot of guys. The guy is a big, rangy safety that we have been looking for. He is in for a big year, I think.
Overall, this team will live and die by their QB play. Unlike last year, the QB will have a lot of weapons between Watson, Richardson, Little, and Gordon. The defense will be solid, middle of the road team, especially with Rubin and Taylor back. If we can get good, consistent QB play, I think 7-9 wins is possible. If Weeden struggles, like I do expect him to do, I think 5 wins is about what we'll see. Team is definitely on the right path, though. "
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BR1986FB
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Jul 30, 2012 1:08pm
Good to hear about JMJ. So far, all I've heard is that he was "stiff" and looked "out of place" (ala Veikune).
Commander of Awesome
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Jul 30, 2012 1:15pm
God I hope I never have to see a player as bad as veikune again. The worst player I have ever seen in practice. The worst.BR1986FB;1236981 wrote:Good to hear about JMJ. So far, all I've heard is that he was "stiff" and looked "out of place" (ala Veikune).
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BR1986FB
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Jul 30, 2012 1:18pm
The comments about JMJ actually remind me more of previous comments about Beau Bell.
Commander of Awesome
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Jul 30, 2012 1:24pm
Beau "The Hammer in the Middle" Bell aka the ring bearer.BR1986FB;1236992 wrote:The comments about JMJ actually remind me more of previous comments about Beau Bell.
Least JMJ can run.
shook_17
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Jul 30, 2012 4:35pm
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BR1986FB
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Jul 30, 2012 6:21pm
Clayton's take...
http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp12/story/_/page/claytoncampbills120730/nfl-observations-buffalo-bills-cleveland-browns-training-camps
Sirius XM tours 32 camps in 28 days or something like that. Today they were in Cincinnati. They were gushing over the Bengals saying they think they can overtake the Steelers and EVERY Bengal they interviewed had the "New Orleans or bust" mentality. In fact, Marvin Lewis has t-shirts made up. Sirius will be at Browns camp on Thursday.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp12/story/_/page/claytoncampbills120730/nfl-observations-buffalo-bills-cleveland-browns-training-camps
Sirius XM tours 32 camps in 28 days or something like that. Today they were in Cincinnati. They were gushing over the Bengals saying they think they can overtake the Steelers and EVERY Bengal they interviewed had the "New Orleans or bust" mentality. In fact, Marvin Lewis has t-shirts made up. Sirius will be at Browns camp on Thursday.
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BR1986FB
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Jul 30, 2012 6:39pm
Kind of changing my viewpoint on Josh Gordon. After what I've heard, I think he's going to be an impact player from day 1, assuming he stays away from the bong. Sounds like he's already their best receiver.
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BR1986FB
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Jul 30, 2012 6:45pm
Posted 6 hour(s) ago [h=2]Old man Brown about to be passed by 'Bullet' Buster Skrine[/h]It’s getting late in Sheldon Brown’s remarkable career, so that that Buster Skrine might replace him as a starter sooner rather than later.
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rown will turn 34 shortly after the next Super Bowl. In the context of cornerbacks, that’s like being an 80-year-old U.S. president.
Not a lot of them out there, and not a lot of demand for them.
Pat Shurmur has already indicated during this camp that Skrine’s time as a starter is a matter of when, and after today’s practice he came right out and put him in the hunt to start in 2012.
“Sheldon is starting right now,” is the way the head coach put it, “but I really like Buster. He’s a gritty, gritty guy.”
Skrine also is (relative to Brown) a youthful, youthful guy. He is a speedy. speedy guy compared to anyone. As we mentioned in yesterday’s Travis Benjamin-chased-rabbits-in-Belle-Glade post, Skrine probably is the second-fastest man on the team, behind Benjamin.
Shurmur paints it as a three-way fight among Brown, Skrine and veteran Dimitri Patterson. The latter was a nice free agency pick-up relative to shoring up the slot-corner role.
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hurmur said he “can see” either Skrine or Patterson “
laying outside” (i.e., starting opposite Joe Haden, with the losers in the starting derby bucking for still-important jobs as the third and fourth cornerbacks).
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Shurmur rolled his eyes when someone told him Joe Haden has said he had an “amazing year,” aside from four plays.
“We all need to play better,” Shurmur said. “What we did as a team wasn’t good enough.
“He needs to be super-amazing this year.”
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Sheldon Brown, incidentally, has played in all 160 regular-season games for which he has been eligible during his 10-year NFL career. He is an example of an aging player Joe Banner was adamant about not over-paying when they were together with the Eagles.
Brown became a full-time starter in 2004, his third year with Philadelphia. He started all but one game for the Eagles from 2004-09. He has started 32 straight games since coming to the Browns in 2010.
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Time flies. Brown is two years younger than Tim Couch., who will always be young Tim to some of us.
http://www.cantonrep.com/community/blog/freshbrownies/x866117584/Old-man-Brown-about-to-be-passed-by-Bullet-Buster-Skrine
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rown will turn 34 shortly after the next Super Bowl. In the context of cornerbacks, that’s like being an 80-year-old U.S. president.
Not a lot of them out there, and not a lot of demand for them.
Pat Shurmur has already indicated during this camp that Skrine’s time as a starter is a matter of when, and after today’s practice he came right out and put him in the hunt to start in 2012.
“Sheldon is starting right now,” is the way the head coach put it, “but I really like Buster. He’s a gritty, gritty guy.”
Skrine also is (relative to Brown) a youthful, youthful guy. He is a speedy. speedy guy compared to anyone. As we mentioned in yesterday’s Travis Benjamin-chased-rabbits-in-Belle-Glade post, Skrine probably is the second-fastest man on the team, behind Benjamin.
Shurmur paints it as a three-way fight among Brown, Skrine and veteran Dimitri Patterson. The latter was a nice free agency pick-up relative to shoring up the slot-corner role.
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hurmur said he “can see” either Skrine or Patterson “
laying outside” (i.e., starting opposite Joe Haden, with the losers in the starting derby bucking for still-important jobs as the third and fourth cornerbacks).• • •
Shurmur rolled his eyes when someone told him Joe Haden has said he had an “amazing year,” aside from four plays.
“We all need to play better,” Shurmur said. “What we did as a team wasn’t good enough.
“He needs to be super-amazing this year.”
• • •
Sheldon Brown, incidentally, has played in all 160 regular-season games for which he has been eligible during his 10-year NFL career. He is an example of an aging player Joe Banner was adamant about not over-paying when they were together with the Eagles.
Brown became a full-time starter in 2004, his third year with Philadelphia. He started all but one game for the Eagles from 2004-09. He has started 32 straight games since coming to the Browns in 2010.
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Time flies. Brown is two years younger than Tim Couch., who will always be young Tim to some of us.
http://www.cantonrep.com/community/blog/freshbrownies/x866117584/Old-man-Brown-about-to-be-passed-by-Bullet-Buster-Skrine
Commander of Awesome
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Jul 30, 2012 8:47pm
I think Mitchell is all but gone.
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Footwedge
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Jul 31, 2012 12:35am
Bingo. And Benjamin will be our second best...if Childress lets him fly.BR1986FB;1237271 wrote:Kind of changing my viewpoint on Josh Gordon. After what I've heard, I think he's going to be an impact player from day 1, assuming he stays away from the bong. Sounds like he's already their best receiver.
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BR1986FB
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Jul 31, 2012 5:13am
Doubt it. Still haven't lost faith in Little.Footwedge;1237606 wrote:Bingo. And Benjamin will be our second best...if Childress lets him fly.
Commander of Awesome
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Jul 31, 2012 7:40am
I havent read much about Rucker or Parker other than Rucker was working with the younger guys. Anyone come across any info on how he's looked?
Commander of Awesome
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Jul 31, 2012 7:43am
Also I've been reading Lauvao has been ordinary in camp and Ryan Miller has looked pretty good. If Lauvao doesn't get his head out of his ass I could envision a scenario where his spot is lost to Greco.