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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Apr 28, 2012 6:14pm
Other than last year, the Browns have drafted poorly. Duh.Mulva;1156407 wrote:Speaking of which... I gave the 2010 draft a B. Definitely too high. Re-grading, probably a D+. Haden was still a great pick, Ward is alright, and everything else was shit.
I pretty much nailed it on Haden, Ward, Hardesty/Tate, and Lauvao. I completely overrated the later part of the draft though, even though those rankings are relative to when they were taken.
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?11071-How-would-you-grade-the-Browns-draft
I think I'll post another one of those later for this year, just for funsies. It should be a good way to get some people's panties in a bunch.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 28, 2012 6:15pm
So Carlton Mitchell is the answer to our WR problems....fuck we are screwed forever
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 28, 2012 6:15pm
It's all relative to how these guys perform. Like I said, we didn't have a great draft. But getting Richardson, a QB, and quality RT make it at least a "good" draft.Mulva;1156408 wrote:Would you rank the Browns draft ahead of anyone else in the division?
I'm not going to go through and rank every draft 1-32, but if I did the Browns would probably fall in the bottom 10. They did better in the later rounds, but the early rounds are way more important and weighed much more heavily.
I guess for some perspective, I think most teams' drafts are decent at worst, because it takes a lot to really f*ck up, and we didn't do that, at least I hope not
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 28, 2012 6:18pm
Haha, I mean we still have to go through the UDFA process and UFA's still available. Dane Sanzenbacher and Doug Baldwin were pretty solid UDFAs.SportsAndLady;1156417 wrote:So Carlton Mitchell is the answer to our WR problems....**** we are screwed forever
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Apr 28, 2012 6:20pm
Don't fucking hate on Carlton Mitchell! He follows me on Twitter lolSportsAndLady;1156417 wrote:So Carlton Mitchell is the answer to our WR problems....fuck we are screwed forever
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 28, 2012 6:21pm
I completely agree with Matt Miller from NFL Draft Scout:
Also, if anyone was wondering, Cam Johnson fell because of sickle cell and Chase Minnifield because of his knee concerns.
And I forgot Mike Brewster existed. I'm kind of surprised he hasn't been drafted too.
Definitely a risk, but talent-wise I think he's the #2 running back in the draft.NFL overreacted to Arian Foster's hamstring and character. They're doing the same with Chris Polk's shoulder/hip--played two years w/o issue
Also, if anyone was wondering, Cam Johnson fell because of sickle cell and Chase Minnifield because of his knee concerns.
And I forgot Mike Brewster existed. I'm kind of surprised he hasn't been drafted too.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Apr 28, 2012 6:22pm
His punt return to the house vs. the Bucks was very Cribbsesque.hoops23;1156411 wrote:Overview
Benjamin was a big-play threat at Miami for several years. Initially an electric return specialist, he eventually became an effective pass-catching option. He is undersized but fast enough to get past safeties, and has the route-running savvy to outwork corners, create separation and make plays. His size might limit his pro potential, but many receivers of his stature have succeeded in the NFL. Benjamin has third- to fourth-round value.
Analysis Strengths
Benjamin understands how to get open at the top of routes and can use his explosiveness to his advantage. As a returner, he is a "one cut and go" runner who can break for daylight. The key to his game as a receiver is his ability to get open, and he doesn't shy away from contact. He will be a true deep threat who runs crisp intermediate routes.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Apr 28, 2012 6:29pm
Man, with their draft and FA signings, Tampa Bay could be a scary team is their coach is at least semi-knowledgeable...
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 28, 2012 6:33pm
Tampa and Buffalo look like the 2 most improved teams to me. Although I don't like Fitzpatrick.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1156428 wrote:Man, with their draft and FA signings, Tampa Bay could be a scary team is their coach is at least semi-knowledgeable...
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Apr 28, 2012 6:44pm
The Rams did pretty well also.Mulva;1156431 wrote:Tampa and Buffalo look like the 2 most improved teams to me. Although I don't like Fitzpatrick.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 28, 2012 6:51pm
I'm ok with this draft other than weeden and Hughes. Weeden really ruined it for me though.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 28, 2012 6:51pm
I hoping some combo of Jeff Fuller/Dwight Jones, Cliff Harris/Minnifield/Leonard Johnson, or Burfict with these last 2 picks.
SMITTEMS
Posts: 309
Apr 28, 2012 7:00pm
Janzen Jackson FS? He was a beast when he was at tennessee.
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the_system
Posts: 465
Apr 28, 2012 7:02pm
Dennard definitely screwed up. But I don't think he's had any trouble prior to that event. Sounds like he got hammered at the bar, got into a fight outside with a heckler, and accidentally punched a cop in the cheek when the cop tried breaking the scuffle up. He's looking at a felony but will probably just pay a steep fine since he's never been in trouble before. If so, it was an absolute steal for NE in the 7th Rd. Even if he serves time or continues to screw up it's worth the gamble with a 7th rd. pick.lhslep134;1156404 wrote:It's gotta be nice being Bill Bellicheck and knowing that it's okay to draft character concern guys (just took Dennard).
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buckeyes_woowee
Posts: 512
Apr 28, 2012 7:05pm
Trevin Wade
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 28, 2012 7:06pm
Ah Wildcat on the Browns!! Nice. Wade's pretty solid. Surrounded by a pretty terrible defense, but he's fluid.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 28, 2012 7:07pm
Wade is nice value in the 7th. I would have rather had other corners, but he's a guy that could have gone off the board 2 or 3 rounds ago. His 40 times are questionable, but I think he'll make the roster at minimum.
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the_system
Posts: 465
Apr 28, 2012 7:07pm
nfl.com had him rated pretty high at an 82.5lhslep134;1156454 wrote:Ah Wildcat on the Browns!! Nice. Wade's pretty solid. Surrounded by a pretty terrible defense, but he's fluid.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Apr 28, 2012 7:07pm
Our last pick was pretty Smelley... muahahahahahahaha
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buckeyes_woowee
Posts: 512
Apr 28, 2012 7:08pm
Brad Smelley
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 28, 2012 7:08pm
That pick stinks.
I'll be here all week.
I'll be here all week.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 28, 2012 7:09pm
NFL.com said he could go as high as round 2, probably a 4th-5th round talent. But he had a pretty good year, even if not so much statistically.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 28, 2012 7:10pm
Well we took T-Rich and his lead blocker
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buckeyes_woowee
Posts: 512
Apr 28, 2012 7:47pm
So who do you guys want to target as undrafted free agents???
Some guys I would like
QB:Alex Tanney Monmouth
RB: Chris Polk Washington
WR: Eric Page Toledo, Dwight Jones UNC, Jeff Fuller A&M
TE: Deangelo Peterson LSU
OL: Mike Brewster OSU, James Brown Trou
DL: Josue Ortiz Harvard
LB:Vontaze Burfict ASU
DB: Chase Minnifield Virginia, Janzen Jackson McNeese, Aaron Henry Wisconsin
Some guys I would like
QB:Alex Tanney Monmouth
RB: Chris Polk Washington
WR: Eric Page Toledo, Dwight Jones UNC, Jeff Fuller A&M
TE: Deangelo Peterson LSU
OL: Mike Brewster OSU, James Brown Trou
DL: Josue Ortiz Harvard
LB:Vontaze Burfict ASU
DB: Chase Minnifield Virginia, Janzen Jackson McNeese, Aaron Henry Wisconsin
grodt
Posts: 1,588
Apr 28, 2012 7:49pm
Reports are Browns signed WR Josh Cooper from Oklahoma State as an UDFA.