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Dec 13, 2011 1:25 PM
Automatik;1013467 wrote:According to the ESPN announcement, that was his 5th illegal hit in 3 seasons. I'm wondering if that includes the one against Fitzpatrick from last year that was complete bullshit.

I think it was only the 5th on a QB. So that excludes the Massaquoi and Cribbs hits, and Im not sure on others, I dont watch all the Steelers games.

Maybe this will give Harrison time to go snake hunting. This is my favorite Harrison quote of all time lol.

[LEFT]Harrison, who lives in a suburb north of Pittsburgh, has come to Arizona to heal and train after back surgery over the winter, and he is bored and antagonized by the desert. “There’s snakes out there. I grabbed a rattler by his tail and threw him over the fence last month.”

You grabbed a rattler bare-handed?

“Had to,” he says. “My son was here visiting, so that bitch had to bounce out. ASAP.”[/LEFT]
Dec 13, 2011 1:25pm
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Dec 13, 2011 1:36 PM
WebFire;1013632 wrote:The defenseless player fouls are so bad they are almost ruining the game.
only thing worse is the timeout before a field goal(milliseconds before he kicks it)...IMO this shouldnt be allowed...
Dec 13, 2011 1:36pm
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Dec 13, 2011 1:41 PM
BR1986FB;1013530 wrote:He said "draft an asshole" which would imply a jerk, a villain. You interpreted asshole to mean crappy player.
Didn't they draft Braylan Edwards and Kellen Winslow etc,etc?
Dec 13, 2011 1:41pm
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Dec 13, 2011 2:05 PM
Gblock;1013675 wrote:only thing worse is the timeout before a field goal(milliseconds before he kicks it)...IMO this shouldnt be allowed...
Why? so a QB shouldnt be allowed to call a TO with the play-clock under 3. Defense should be allowed to call a TO last second if they see they have 12 on the field? That is stupid. A TO is a legal part of the game, you cant just decide when a team can and cant use them (sans, back to back TOs).
Dec 13, 2011 2:05pm
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Dec 13, 2011 2:12 PM
Laley23;1013711 wrote:Why? so a QB shouldnt be allowed to call a TO with the play-clock under 3. Defense should be allowed to call a TO last second if they see they have 12 on the field? That is stupid. A TO is a legal part of the game, you cant just decide when a team can and cant use them (sans, back to back TOs).
seems bush league to me...i dont mind a timeout to ice the kicker but a timeout as he kicks it i dont like..i guess im old school nfl
Dec 13, 2011 2:12pm
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Dec 13, 2011 2:26 PM
Gblock;1013722 wrote:seems bush league to me...i dont mind a timeout to ice the kicker but a timeout as he kicks it i dont like..i guess im old school nfl
It works just as much as it backfires (miss then make) though, so who really cares?
Dec 13, 2011 2:26pm
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Dec 13, 2011 2:26 PM
He only got a 1 game suspension? 5 time repeat offender gets suspended for one game, yet suh gets 2 game? What Harrison did/has done was worse than Suh’s half hearted (though thuggish) stomp. Commish just isn’t consistent.
Dec 13, 2011 2:26pm
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Dec 13, 2011 2:29 PM
Laley23;1013742 wrote:It works just as much as it backfires (miss then make) though, so who really cares?
I do and its annoying...the nfl made it for many decades without doing it and liked it that way better
Dec 13, 2011 2:29pm
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Dec 13, 2011 2:31 PM
Gblock;1013745 wrote:I do and its annoying...the nfl made it for many decades without doing it and liked it that way better
QQing all over this thread
Dec 13, 2011 2:31pm
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Dec 13, 2011 2:35 PM
Commander of Awesome;1013743 wrote:He only got a 1 game suspension? 5 time repeat offender gets suspended for one game, yet suh gets 2 game? What Harrison did/has done was worse than Suh’s half hearted (though thuggish) stomp. Commish just isn’t consistent.
Suh's was an after-the-play event, as opposed to an illegal during-the-play hit. I think most leagues are far more concerned with anything that goes on after the whistles than rough and/or illegal stuff that happens as part of a play. Like, take the X-UC basketball game from the weekend. People are wanting Yancy Gates' head on a platter for throwing a sucker punch at Freese. But if it was a brutal foul during the game (like completely blasting a guy w/o going for the ball when he's in midair) instead of a punch after a play, the only way people would even care for more than 3 minutes is if that foul directly led to a fight. And even then, it wouldn't get the same outrage. He'd be kicked out of the game and might have to sit one or two out if the school, league, NCAA intervenes, but there wouldn't be the "ONLY SIX GAMES?!?!? FUCK THAT...WE WANT BLOOD!" reaction.

A Yahoo blog I read said that this is actually breaking new ground, as no one has previously been suspended for a helmet-to-helmet (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/James-Harrison-has-been-suspended-for-one-game;_ylt=Ap_uKId80N9J.NqaoGOcETo5nYcB?urn=nfl-wp13800).
Dec 13, 2011 2:35pm
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Dec 13, 2011 2:39 PM
Webfire, I agree 100% that the defenseless player fouls are 10x worse then the helmet to helmet calls. Its almost as if you're just supposed to let the WR catch the ball, and brace for the hit before you touch him..its stupid
Dec 13, 2011 2:39pm
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Dec 13, 2011 2:59 PM
Suh's and Harrison's recent suspensions are not comparable, not even close.
Dec 13, 2011 2:59pm
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Dec 13, 2011 3:49 PM
THE4RINGZ;1013595 wrote:The medical staff in Cleveland has just as bad of a reputation as Harrison does. I believe the league will look into the sideline treatment of McCoy after the hit. To ignore the situation is irresponsible.
Yeah...the Browns trainers will get a suspension too.
Dec 13, 2011 3:49pm
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Dec 13, 2011 4:07 PM
Former Buckeye...the assassin would have racked up some suspensions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEgQARSzaI0
Dec 13, 2011 4:07pm
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Dec 13, 2011 4:10 PM
Tatum was a beast.
Dec 13, 2011 4:10pm
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Dec 13, 2011 4:13 PM
First player in 25 years to be suspended for a tackle on the field. The suspension is uncalled for. A hefty fine would have been more appropriate.
Dec 13, 2011 4:13pm
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Dec 13, 2011 4:15 PM
GoPens;1013844 wrote:First player in 25 years to be suspended for a tackle on the field. The suspension is uncalled for. A hefty fine would have been more appropriate.
Harrison gets my vote for the dirtiest player in the NFL. If the NFL was serious about limiting injuries they'd kick him out of the league. That, and the roids is an absolute disgrace to college football.
Dec 13, 2011 4:15pm
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Dec 13, 2011 4:44 PM
The NFL call helmet-to-helmet no matter who or what position.
I don't think so.

Players are banned from using any part of their helmet or face mask to "butt, spear or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily," according to Rule 12, Section 2, Article 8 of the NFL Rulebook, except when going against a runner who isn't considered a defenseless player.
Dec 13, 2011 4:44pm
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Dec 13, 2011 4:44 PM
sleeper;1013847 wrote:Harrison gets my vote for the dirtiest player in the NFL. If the NFL was serious about limiting injuries they'd kick him out of the league. That, and the roids is an absolute disgrace to college football.

I think he is dirty, but the bigger problem is that he is dumber than a box of rocks. He doesn't get it....so he won't change.
Dec 13, 2011 4:44pm
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Dec 13, 2011 4:55 PM
If they are going to flag players for "defenseless" positions, then they need to start flagging for those players with the ball, who are on the ground already (such as catching it and accidentally falling to the ground), and preventing the defender from driving a helmet, shoulder, and body into the player. This is almost the most defenseless position one can get on the football field. It doesn't take much to just touch the player down. Nobody needs to project themselves like a missile into the grounded player.

Until they do something about that, the others are solely to protect franchise players (particularly the QBs and WRs).
Dec 13, 2011 4:55pm
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Dec 13, 2011 5:10 PM
I would've just fined him. $50,000....donate money to the charity of Colt's choice.

I hope he plays about 3 more seasons, hopefully another Super Bowl ring, get another hit that draws a large suspension (but hurts no player) and he retires right there, tells Goodell to kiss his ass.....and then does it again 5 years later during his HOF speech.
Dec 13, 2011 5:10pm
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Dec 13, 2011 5:11 PM
Ironman92;1013885 wrote:I would've just fined him. $50,000....donate money to the charity of Colt's choice.

I hope he plays about 3 more seasons, hopefully another Super Bowl ring, get another hit that draws a large suspension (but hurts no player) and he retires right there, tells Goodell to kiss his ass.....and then does it again 5 years later during his HOF speech.



I think these hits might hinder his acceptance into the HOF.
Dec 13, 2011 5:11pm
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Dec 13, 2011 5:12 PM
Possibly my biggest problem aside from the explosive hit.......why the fuck didn't Colt slide? Aren't quarterbacks taught to slide feet first to avoid getting mauled in such situations? You'd think you would abide by that recommendation and maybe even more so with a crazy guy coming at you.
Dec 13, 2011 5:12pm
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Dec 13, 2011 5:14 PM
THE4RINGZ;1013886 wrote:I think these hits might hinder his acceptance into the HOF.
Yeah, for sure.......but 2 or 3 more Pro Bowls and another defensive POY or another SB Championship would offset many things.


Been a lot of dirty players make the HOF.
Dec 13, 2011 5:14pm
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Dec 13, 2011 5:16 PM
If he does make it, I hope he asks Goodell to give his induction speech.
Dec 13, 2011 5:16pm