like_that;1013516 wrote:You have had shitty attempts to troll, but this might be the worst I have ever seen. Quit trying so hard, and keep praying. God might have mercy on your pathetic soul.

Skyhook79;1013523 wrote:Yeah 59-117 is from bad coaching not bad drafting. #like_thatlogic

Skyhook79;1013523 wrote:Yeah 59-117 is from bad coaching not bad drafting. #like_thatlogic

BR1986FB;1013530 wrote:He said "draft an asshole" which would imply a jerk, a villain. You interpreted asshole to mean crappy player.

THE4RINGZ;1013441 wrote:One game, and $50K.

Then he will call Goodell a "***" again.

Prescott;1013546 wrote:McCoy had tucked the ball and ran with the ball tucked for 4 or 5 strides. He became a ball carrier.

According to Mike Florio:

The official rule book contains at Rule 12, Section 2, Article 13(8) a phrase that possibly creates a loophole for a helmet-to-helmet hit. If the quarterback is “attempting to advance the ball as a runner,” all protections for the passer apparently go away. On the play in question, McCoy was moving toward the line of scrimmage as a runner, before flipping the ball while on the move to Montario Hardesty in a maneuver that looked almost like an option play, with a slightly forward pass in lieu of a lateral getting the ball from the quarterback to the tailback.
Harrison will claim that he believed McCoy was attempting to advance the ball as a runner. And that raises an interesting question regarding the ability of quarterbacks to bait defensive players into illegal hits.

Florio's a jackass.

Prescott;1013568 wrote:That's what I would say if I didn't agree with the expert.


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THE4RINGZ;1013567 wrote:I don't think baiting is the right word, I think it was one of those plays that happens fast and see you see an open reciever. I am not defending Harrison, I think he had an opportunity to go lower than he did. I, do, however believe he (Harrison) thought McCoy was going to run the ball.

Prescott;1013568 wrote:That's what I would say if I didn't agree with the expert.

McCoy was a ball carrier just as Mendenhall was when Gucong hit him with the crown of his helmet. Was a flag warranted on that play??


Gucong hit Mendenhall right up under the facemask, nearly turning his helmet sideways. Did Gucong lead with the crown of his helmet? You bet he did! Did Gucong make helmet=to-helmet contact. Hell yes he did! Was Gucong penalized on the play. Hell no he wasn’t. He hit a running back. Which was EXACTLY what McCoy was on that play until he flipped the ball out to Hardesty at the last moment before taking the hit.

Heretic;1013590 wrote:Speaking of that, will anything happen to the Browns for apparently not testing him and putting him back in? I know the league has been more concerned about concussions and has a testing system up for players who suffered head shots to make sure they're okay. The impression I have is that Cleveland's staff ignored that (since McCoy only missed two plays which a Yahoo blog entry commented took up about 80 seconds of real time) and took the "he said he's okay, so who are we to argue?" direction. But is that sideline medical testing mandatory for head shots, or just something the league advises that teams do?

BR1986FB;1013607 wrote:The NFLPA's medical reps, I believe, were to be in Cleveland soon (maybe today) to investigate this.

I'd expect some punishment in that I don't think they actually tested McCoy until Friday.

When he went to the sidelines he also had a hand injury. It looked like they took care of the hand and didn't bother testing him for the concussion. He told Shurmur he was "good to go" and players said he was fine.

Now whether this was delayed onset or what (I don't know), but after they returned to Cleveland he had to have Evan Moore drive him home. They also requested "no lights" in his presser.

The Browns trainers/medical staff definitely dropped the ball on this but this is ONE thing I WON'T blame Shurmur for. He's not a doctor and if his trainers say "he's ok to play" then he takes their word for it.

Prescott;1013546 wrote:McCoy had tucked the ball and ran with the ball tucked for 4 or 5 strides. He became a ball carrier.

According to Mike Florio:

The official rule book contains at Rule 12, Section 2, Article 13(8) a phrase that possibly creates a loophole for a helmet-to-helmet hit. If the quarterback is “attempting to advance the ball as a runner,” all protections for the passer apparently go away. On the play in question, McCoy was moving toward the line of scrimmage as a runner, before flipping the ball while on the move to Montario Hardesty in a maneuver that looked almost like an option play, with a slightly forward pass in lieu of a lateral getting the ball from the quarterback to the tailback.
Harrison will claim that he believed McCoy was attempting to advance the ball as a runner. And that raises an interesting question regarding the ability of quarterbacks to bait defensive players into illegal hits.

The suspension is not warranted.

Hb31187;1013548 wrote:Fine him sure, but a suspension for that hit is borderline ridiculous. The NFL is glorified 2 hand touch now a days

Between the Dbs not being able to hit Wr's going after the ball because theyre "defenseless" to D linemen getting flagged for getting blocked and hitting the QB low or grazing their head with their arm while tackling them, its starting to go overboard with how much they protect players

WebFire;1013632 wrote:The defenseless player fouls are so bad they are almost ruining the game.

Gblock;1013573 wrote:or just call him a homer or Rockne