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Glory Days

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Dec 7, 2011 9:50 AM
In about 2 hours it will be exactly 70 years ago that the greatest generation answered the call.
Dec 7, 2011 9:50am
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Dec 7, 2011 10:15 AM
...and Ben Affleck and Josh Hartnet became heroes. God bless America.
Dec 7, 2011 10:15am
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Dec 7, 2011 3:54 PM
Dec 7, 2011 3:54pm
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Dec 7, 2011 4:01 PM
Glory Days;1005353 wrote:In about 2 hours it will be exactly 70 years ago that the greatest generation answered the call.
You mean the generation who's left us 16 trillion in debt and 80 trillion in future unfunded liabilities?
Dec 7, 2011 4:01pm
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Dec 7, 2011 4:18 PM
sleeper;1005890 wrote:You mean the generation who's left us 16 trillion in debt and 80 trillion in future unfunded liabilities?
I am not big on talk of "generations". That is an arbitrary boundry set in order to try to create a cohesive group. There is no "thing" there.

That said, can't you leave this thread alone and honor those who lost their lives in that war? If you want to argue about what this "generation" did to that "generation", start a new topic.
Dec 7, 2011 4:18pm
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Dec 7, 2011 4:22 PM
Dr Winston O'Boogie;1005918 wrote:That said, can't you leave this thread alone and honor those who lost their lives in that war?
He's right.

RIP JOSH HARTNETT (1978-1942)

Dec 7, 2011 4:22pm
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Dec 7, 2011 4:28 PM
Dr Winston O'Boogie;1005918 wrote:I am not big on talk of "generations". That is an arbitrary boundry set in order to try to create a cohesive group. There is no "thing" there.

That said, can't you leave this thread alone and honor those who lost their lives in that war? If you want to argue about what this "generation" did to that "generation", start a new topic.
Sure, just don't insinuate anything with talk of "the greatest generation". It's condescending and needs to be called out.
Dec 7, 2011 4:28pm
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Dec 7, 2011 4:31 PM
My grandmother was there. Thankfully, my grandfather wasn't as he was with the aircraft carriers.
Dec 7, 2011 4:31pm
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Dec 7, 2011 4:35 PM
sleeper;1005940 wrote:Sure, just don't insinuate anything with talk of "the greatest generation". It's condescending and needs to be called out.
It's just a name that Tom Brokaw hyped - nothing more. It's human nature to try to form groups with common traits -ergo this "generation" and that "generation". In reality, it's an arbitrary concept that means nothing.

THe people who fought in this war were very courageous. Just like those who fought in the other wars of this country.
Dec 7, 2011 4:35pm
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Dec 7, 2011 5:42 PM
Dr Winston O'Boogie;1005948 wrote:
THe people who fought in this war were very courageous.
No they weren't. They were drafted and didn't have a choice.
Dec 7, 2011 5:42pm
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Dec 7, 2011 5:49 PM
Disagree with Sleepers last comment, regardless if they were drafted or not, once you are on the battlefield and going through what they went through, that is a lot more courageous than anything you will do in your lifetime Im sure.

I know you are just acting out your character so have fun.
Dec 7, 2011 5:49pm
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Dec 7, 2011 6:10 PM
pmoney25;1006017 wrote:Disagree with Sleepers last comment, regardless if they were drafted or not, once you are on the battlefield and going through what they went through, that is a lot more courageous than anything you will do in your lifetime Im sure.
I drive to work everyday. Statistically that is far more dangerous than dying away at war. I'll stick to the side that contains all the facts while you and your butt buddies can call me names and spew your erroneous opinions.
Dec 7, 2011 6:10pm
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Dec 7, 2011 6:17 PM
It's been an interesting day on base here in Hawaii. A lot of ceremonies. All the ships went out if port and paraded back in. Flyovers this morning in the missing man formation. It's just brought a whole new set of emotions to be living on the spot that was bombed 70 years ago. Listened to a few men today who survived the attack at hickam field and it was as if you could still hear the fear in their voice but then the pride when they talked about standing up and fighting and beginning the new generation! It was really awesome!!
Dec 7, 2011 6:17pm
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Dec 7, 2011 7:46 PM
sleeper;1005890 wrote:You mean the generation who's left us 16 trillion in debt and 80 trillion in future unfunded liabilities?

Just print more money.
Dec 7, 2011 7:46pm
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Dec 7, 2011 8:22 PM
sleeper;1006012 wrote:No they weren't. They were drafted and didn't have a choice.
10 million were drafted of about 16 million that served. and some of the ones that were turned away committed suicide because they couldnt deal with not serving.
Dec 7, 2011 8:22pm
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Dec 7, 2011 8:26 PM
sleeper;1006033 wrote:I drive to work everyday. Statistically that is far more dangerous than dying away at war. I'll stick to the side that contains all the facts while you and your butt buddies can call me names and spew your erroneous opinions.
in regards to WWII, statistically you are wrong.
Dec 7, 2011 8:26pm
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Dec 7, 2011 8:29 PM
sleeper;1005940 wrote:Sure, just don't insinuate anything with talk of "the greatest generation". It's condescending and needs to be called out.
Same as assuming someone with an OSU degree is smart.
Dec 7, 2011 8:29pm
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Dec 7, 2011 8:50 PM
Glory Days;1006166 wrote:in regards to WWII, statistically you are wrong.
Oh, cool. Let's just pick statistics that fit my argument. Awesome, great. LOL.
Dec 7, 2011 8:50pm
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Dec 7, 2011 8:53 PM
sleeper;1006033 wrote:I drive to work everyday. Statistically that is far more dangerous than dying away at war. I'll stick to the side that contains all the facts while you and your butt buddies can call me names and spew your erroneous opinions.
Whether there by draft or not, those men on the battlefields of Europe an the Pacific sure as hell had courage. They were scared, but they were there. You have no similar experience, so comparing your commute to the dangers of war is wasting time.
Dec 7, 2011 8:53pm
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Dec 7, 2011 9:07 PM
sleeper;1006012 wrote:No they weren't. They were drafted and didn't have a choice.
So because they were drafted they weren't courageous?
Dec 7, 2011 9:07pm
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Dec 7, 2011 9:14 PM
sleeper;1006033 wrote:I drive to work everyday. Statistically that is far more dangerous than dying away at war. I'll stick to the side that contains all the facts while you and your butt buddies can call me names and spew your erroneous opinions.

Only if you are a woman or asian. And seeing as how you went to Ohio State, I doubt that you are asian.
Dec 7, 2011 9:14pm
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Dec 7, 2011 11:56 PM
Tiger2003;1006224 wrote:So because they were drafted they weren't courageous?
Exactly.
Dec 7, 2011 11:56pm
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Dec 8, 2011 1:28 AM
Courage (in the context of war) can only be proven on the battlefield. Many a volunteer has pissed down his leg and ran. Likewise draftees. We are not born with courage. Naturally we want to save ourselves. Courage is made by being placed in a situation that jepardizes ones life, whether by choice or force. Once in that situation a choice is made to go against the natural inclination and put ones life in jepardy for cause, country, or friend.
Dec 8, 2011 1:28am
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Dec 8, 2011 3:21 AM
Taps always plays at 10pm. But in the housing it's usually hard to hear as its only played on the center circles loud speaker. But tonight it played on every speaker throughout base. Sad day to remember.
Dec 8, 2011 3:21am