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Nov 13, 2011 3:21 PM
iclfan2;970868 wrote:Did you read my link? They did agree to the blood tests. But even if they didn't it is a bull**** demand. It is a pride and respect thing, and Pac man isn't just going to give in to a made up demand by Floyd. I have no dog in this fight, other than wanting the fight to happen. It is clearly Mayweather doing the ducking. The ONLY thing I think could possibly true is that if they do fight, what happens next? There will never be a bigger fight either one of them could participate in. Also, what kind of sport doesn't have the two best people play each other. IT really tarnishes boxing's reputation imo.
Did he agree tot he blood test the day before or day of w/e it was? is that that the link said? It wouldnt open for me
Nov 13, 2011 3:21pm
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Nov 13, 2011 3:23 PM
Hb31187;971022 wrote:You're right. completely butt hurt. And why should manny disagree to take the test? just to spite Mayweather and have an excuse not to fight him?
Because he doesn't have to take the damn test, if it's not administered by the AC he doesn't have to take it, end of story.
Nov 13, 2011 3:23pm
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Nov 13, 2011 3:30 PM
robj55;971024 wrote:Because he doesn't have to take the damn test, if it's not administered by the AC he doesn't have to take it, end of story.
No he doesnt have to take it, but it makes him look like hes duckin just as much as PBF. End of story
Nov 13, 2011 3:30pm
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Nov 13, 2011 3:33 PM
Hb31187;971047 wrote:No he doesnt have to take it, but it makes him look like hes duckin just as much as PBF. End of story
lol I can't believe that is your argument
Nov 13, 2011 3:33pm
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Nov 13, 2011 3:34 PM
robj55;971056 wrote:lol I can't believe that is your argument
how many people do you know that would turn down the biggest payday of their career for no apparent reason? If he has nothign to hide hed just do the test and get it over with. I doubt he would just not wanna take the test just to spite PBF, he either has something to hide or doesnt wanna fight him.
Nov 13, 2011 3:34pm
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Nov 13, 2011 3:40 PM
Hb31187;971065 wrote:how many people do you know that would turn down the biggest payday of their career for no apparent reason? If he has nothign to hide hed just do the test and get it over with. I doubt he would just not wanna take the test just to spite PBF, he either has something to hide or doesnt wanna fight him.
He shouldn't have to take the test, he has followed all the rules of the AC and that is all that matters, FLOYD is the one trying to make up shit as he goes, therefore he is the one who doesn't want the fight and is scared, everyone agrees with that except for PBF nuthuggers. Has nothing to do with trying ti spite him, Floyd doesn't want the fight, and the money thing goes for Floyd as well so that argument is null and void.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4cUsETyYNY&feature=youtu.be

Here is the evidence, case closed.
Nov 13, 2011 3:40pm
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Nov 13, 2011 3:44 PM
robj55;971076 wrote:He shouldn't have to take the test, he has followed all the rules of the AC and that is all that matters, FLOYD is the one trying to make up **** as he goes, therefore he is the one who doesn't want the fight and is scared, everyone agrees with that except for PBF nuthuggers. Has nothing to do with trying ti spite him, Floyd doesn't want the fight, and the money thing goes for Floyd as well so that argument is null and void.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4cUsETyYNY&feature=youtu.be

Here is the evidence, case closed.
A youtube video with people voicing their opinion? Thats like using posts on this website to back my argument, they carry about the same weight.

And I'm never gonna agree with you on this, but you can continue to tell yourself you're right if ya want to
Nov 13, 2011 3:44pm
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Nov 13, 2011 3:49 PM
Hb31187;971092 wrote:A youtube video with people voicing their opinion? Thats like using posts on this website to back my argument, they carry about the same weight.

And I'm never gonna agree with you on this, but you can continue to tell yourself you're right if ya want to
Listen to the last 2 minutes, they agreed to the steroid testing and he still wouldn't sign the fight, just don't see how you can twist that?
Nov 13, 2011 3:49pm
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Nov 13, 2011 4:01 PM
Maybe the whole drug testing thing was just a way for Floyd to duck the fight without having to look bad. He demands something like that, knowing that Pac would never agree to it. So in the end, PBF looks like he was trying to get it done, when in reality he just didn't want the fight and decided to come up with a crazy request that he knew would never happen. Pretty smart move, actually.
Nov 13, 2011 4:01pm
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Nov 13, 2011 4:42 PM
lol..................the drug testing thing is entertaining but that is not and never was the reason for the fight not happening.
It's a Top Rank vs Golden Boy thing(which is hardly unique to this particular fight).

This is Arum's payback for being cut out of Mayweather/De La Hoya.
Arum is the promoter who made both of them famous, Oscar left TR first then publicly stated he would never fight Floyd as long as he was with Arum. Floyd did what he needed to do by not resigning with Top Rank and made the biggest fight out there.
The promoter who guided them both to the top was completely shut out of the richest fight in boxing.
If Arum can find a way to shut Oscar out of Pacquiao/Mayweather he will do it.

Floyd hires GBP to promote his fights when he gets in the ring but he is not under contract with them, he could use someone else.......................................but Floyd hates TR too, he hasn't been stepping in the ring with ANY Top Rank fighter.

The drug testing thing is interesting Pac wants to use WADA, because he does not live in America. Floyd wants to use the USADA, which does not operate in the Phillipines........................besides trying to impose drug tests that Manny would not have to take for any other fight Floyd is also indirectly telling Manny he can't even leave the USA for training. Manny is a congressman out there, he'll never agree to that.
I don't believe Floyd will stick to that demand though, I don't believe he really cares about the drug tests anyway, he tells his opponents to do it simply because he can.

If Floyd were still with Top Rank or Manny was not with them Pac/Mayweather would be at least 18 months in the rear view mirror.
Nov 13, 2011 4:42pm
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Nov 13, 2011 11:52 PM
Floyd is able to make any demand he wants with his fights.

Manny's excuse was he was "scared of needles"

LMAO. GTFO.

Funny, people are starting to believe that Manny and PBF may actually fight.... Manny may succumb to the drug test..

Isn't ironic Manny has looked like shit and much slower in his past two fights? Hmmmmm.
Nov 13, 2011 11:52pm
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Nov 14, 2011 6:33 AM
Only if you're stupid.

He is a pressure fighter in his early 30's.
If he was NOT showing signs of decline by now THAT would be a red flag.

The Glen Johnsons of boxing do not exist in the lower weight divisions and Glen was not a pressure fighter in his younger days to begin with.
Nov 14, 2011 6:33am
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Nov 14, 2011 6:47 PM
Hulk Smash;972173 wrote:Only if you're stupid.

He is a pressure fighter in his early 30's.
If he was NOT showing signs of decline by now THAT would be a red flag.

The Glen Johnsons of boxing do not exist in the lower weight divisions and Glen was not a pressure fighter in his younger days to begin with.
LOL... You don't decline that quickly to become THAT slow, sorry bruh. Pac was quick and relentless. It's like he lost it overnight.

Bob Abrum and Freddy Roach already talking about PacMan - JMM iV... SMH... Stay duckin' PacMan! Pac knows he stands no shot against PBF, so he'd rather fight a guy, who even if he does win, won't get credited as the winner.
Nov 14, 2011 6:47pm
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Nov 14, 2011 8:08 PM
[INDENT]@danrafaelespnDan Rafael [/INDENT]


Breaking: @FloydMayweather &@GoldenBoyBoxing have been told @trboxing won't negotiate Pacquiao-FM in order to pursue 4th fight with Marquez


Nov 14, 2011 8:08pm
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Nov 14, 2011 8:10 PM
I was just about to post that S&L.

PacMan the pussy.

Like I said, Pac knows the deal. PBF destroyed JMM and Pac has struggled with him 3 times, including a draw.

PBF has beaten common opponents worse.

PacMan has nothing to prove against JMm, why pursue a 4th fight?
Nov 14, 2011 8:10pm
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Nov 14, 2011 8:14 PM
IMO, Pac doesn't want to end his career with a loss to PBF. He'd rather keep the debate open for discussion as to who is the better boxer (which IMO, it's already settled).
Nov 14, 2011 8:14pm
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Nov 14, 2011 8:19 PM
What if JMM decides he doesnt want to get ripped off for a 3rd time. Does Pac Man then have to fight PBF?
Nov 14, 2011 8:19pm
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Nov 14, 2011 9:02 PM
hoops23;973080 wrote:I was just about to post that S&L.

PacMan the ****.

Like I said, Pac knows the deal. PBF destroyed JMM and Pac has struggled with him 3 times, including a draw.

PBF has beaten common opponents worse.

PacMan has nothing to prove against JMm, why pursue a 4th fight?
Like who, Pac beat Hatton and De La Hoya way worse than PBF did.
Nov 14, 2011 9:02pm
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Nov 14, 2011 10:51 PM
LOL.

PacMan fought an out of shape and out of boxing De La Hoya.

PBF dominated JMM after 2 years OFF from boxing. Dude took 2 YEARS off and completely dominated JMM.

And Hatton? PBF gave Hatton his first defeat and Hatton never was the same fighter after that.

both fighters dominated Sugar Shane...

PBF had the date and venue set for a match with Pac. Instead, Pac and Bob Abrum are looking to another fight with JMM...

Bob Abrum is still bitter at Floyd for leaving Top Rank, so he will do whatever it takes to NOT make this fight happen.

It's a troubling politic in boxing, one that has hurt the sport. He's in PacMan's ear.

Also, Pacquiao is a bitch. I completely forgot about his lawsuit against Mayweather because he can;t take any kind of shit talk.

JMM is a very good counter puncher with good speed and ok power. PBF is the best counter puncher with great speed and very good power. Bob Abrum knows it, Freddie Roach knows it, and Pac himself probably knows it. They don't want to lose to PBF, as I said, they want to keep the debate alive.

Again, PBF's opponents agree to the very drug test Pac denied. Freddie Roach has been known to train fighters using steroids. He admitted at least two of his fighters have abused the drug.
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Nov 14, 2011 10:51pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:13 PM
I was browsing highlights and found this LOL

[video=youtube;55vSc5q0NRg][/video]
Nov 14, 2011 11:13pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:19 PM
It's also ironic how several boxers say PBF is the best. Bernard Hopkins said after the Pac - JMM fight on Saturday that PBF would destroy Pac. BHop is a student of the game and knows WTF he's talking about...

Then you have a common opponent such as this:

[video=youtube;vlevmumotog][/video]

I haven't talked this much about boxing in a while. I just want the sport to get it's glory back.
Nov 14, 2011 11:19pm
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Nov 15, 2011 1:06 AM
hoops23;973346 wrote:It's also ironic how several boxers say PBF is the best. Bernard Hopkins said after the Pac - JMM fight on Saturday that PBF would destroy Pac. BHop is a student of the game and knows WTF he's talking about...

Then you have a common opponent such as this:

[video=youtube;vlevmumotog][/video]

I haven't talked this much about boxing in a while. I just want the sport to get it's glory back.
It will never happen, too much greed, no investing in the future of the sport.
Nov 15, 2011 1:06am
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Nov 15, 2011 12:11 PM
Agreed. The politics in the boxing have killed the sport. Guys like Bob Abrum especially.
Nov 15, 2011 12:11pm
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Nov 15, 2011 1:58 PM
i could see how someone might say that it was a draw...but i cant see much of a case to say that jmm won the fight. you have to beat a champion. he should have done more in the last round...his trainers were telling him with 2-3 rounds to go that he had it locked up. this was a mistake imo...u should never tell a fighter he is ahead in a close fight..you should always say that your down.

it strikes me funny that boxing is the only sport that doesnt tell you who is winning till its over. why dont they just post the scores between rounds so each fighter knows??? what would the big deal be??
Nov 15, 2011 1:58pm