killer_ewok;970451 wrote:I didn't get to see it so I'll hold off on commenting on this fight til then instead of taking the word of PBF dick riders/PBF haters.
I will say this though.....if PBF is gonna destroy Pacman like some of you are saying....why the fuck hasn't Floyd signed the contract, whooped his ass and collected the biggest purse of his fucking career? Sounds like easy money to me.
Honest question here-are these drug tests mandatory by boxing? Or just PBF?hoops23;970508 wrote:All PacMan had to do was step up and take the drug test.
The same drug test all of PBF's opponents have taken.
I think the type of testing he wants is just mandatory with PBF, not with boxingSportsAndLady;970577 wrote:Honest question here-are these drug tests mandatory by boxing? Or just PBF?
Neither camp wants the fight to happen. The longer this goes on where these two don't fight, the longer people talk about how they want to see the fight. There's no other faces in the sport right now that the masses care about. Once this fight happens, that's it. There's nothing else to "look forward to" in the boxing world. It'll be a great payday for all involved. But then after that, there's nothing.robj55;970662 wrote:Floyd is not the athletic commission, he does not get to dictate who takes what tests. Pac man has never failed a blood test. Pac's camp eventually did agree to all stipulations and Floyd still wouldn't take the fight. There is a video detailing all of this maybe I can find it. Just wish the damn fight would happen all ready that was it can be done and over with.
Umm no. No one took blood tests until his outlandish demand that Pac take one. Pac man does not have to give in to pbf's demands. He isn't the boxing commission. Also, Arum agreed to the unlimited random drug tests. Get a new excuse. http://www.boxingasylum.com/main/?p=2232hoops23;970508 wrote:All PacMan had to do was step up and take the drug test.
The same drug test all of PBF's opponents have taken.
yepiclfan2;970733 wrote:Umm no. No one took blood tests until his outlandish demand that Pac take one. Pac man does not have to give in to pbf's demands. He isn't the boxing commission. Also, Arum agreed to the unlimited random drug tests. Get a new excuse. http://www.boxingasylum.com/main/?p=2232
Obviously if Pac is using an illegal substance/perfomance enhancer its not helping by his performance last night so why does PBF care?Hb31187;970757 wrote:And it goes both ways. PBF shouldnt eb able to dictate what type of tests his opponents take true. But Manny could just get it over with, do it and wed be having this fight
Manny beat Oscar de la Hoya and Ricky Hatton way worse than Floyd did, so that goes both ways. If Floyd wasn't afraid he would have signed the fight a long time ago, not making all these bullshit excuses and acting like he makes the rules. Manny has never failed a blood test and Floyd thinks he is the AC and can dictate whatever terms he wants to fighters, which is ridiculous.Hb31187;970754 wrote:I still dunno why the Pac-Man riders still think PBF is afraid? PBF DEMOLISHED JMM. Pac-man has had trouble with him 3 straight times.
JMM gives Pac-Man problems bc hes a good defensive/counter puncher. Floyd is the same...only hes arguably the best of all time at that style of fighting. Its a bad match up for Pac-Man
Floyd would just come up with some other excuse, funny how defensive he gets when people ask him about that fight.Hb31187;970757 wrote:And it goes both ways. PBF shouldnt eb able to dictate what type of tests his opponents take true. But Manny could just get it over with, do it and wed be having this fight
So you think PBF comes up with BS excuses, but Manny refusing to take a blood test isnt shady or a bullshit excuse ?robj55;970793 wrote:Manny beat Oscar de la Hoya and Ricky Hatton way worse than Floyd did, so that goes both ways. If Floyd wasn't afraid he would have signed the fight a long time ago, not making all these bull**** excuses and acting like he makes the rules. Manny has never failed a blood test and Floyd thinks he is the AC and can dictate whatever terms he wants to fighters, which is ridiculous.
Exactly, Floyd is ducking, you know it, I know it, everyone knows it. He cares about his legacy and doesn't want to lose potentially.Hb31187;970825 wrote:And I know I know I know, "hes never tested positive" and he takes the testing the boxing commission asks him to.
Manny could just agree to take it, theyre both being stubborn. And no, hes not duckin Mannyrobj55;970833 wrote:Exactly, Floyd is ducking, you know it, I know it, everyone knows it. He cares about his legacy and doesn't want to lose potentially.
I think you're being blinded by your fan ship, i'm not saying he couldn't beat Manny but he is clearing ducking him, has been for a while. For a guy who cares about money so much he knows that would be his biggest payday and he still won't sign the fight.Hb31187;970840 wrote:Manny could just agree to take it, theyre both being stubborn. And no, hes not duckin Manny
Did you read my link? They did agree to the blood tests. But even if they didn't it is a bullshit demand. It is a pride and respect thing, and Pac man isn't just going to give in to a made up demand by Floyd. I have no dog in this fight, other than wanting the fight to happen. It is clearly Mayweather doing the ducking. The ONLY thing I think could possibly true is that if they do fight, what happens next? There will never be a bigger fight either one of them could participate in. Also, what kind of sport doesn't have the two best people play each other. IT really tarnishes boxing's reputation imo.Hb31187;970840 wrote:Manny could just agree to take it, theyre both being stubborn. And no, hes not duckin Manny
My dislike for Mayweather? Where or when did I say I disliked him? On what grounds should Floyd Mayweather be able to play athletic commissioner and try and make up his own rules when there are already rules in place? You are getting defensive and sounding butt hurt because you know Floyd is wrong.Hb31187;970864 wrote:Lol if im being blinded by my fan ship you're clearly being blinded by your dislike for Mayweather. Hes askin a guy who has gained plenty of weight in his pro career and lost none of his speed to take an extra drug test that would cause no harm what soever to Manny and would clear the fight to happen yet that fighter wont accept it. Simply bc he doesnt wanna allow floyd to dictate anything apparently. Bc if he had nothing to hide he could just take it, and get the biggest payday of his career, and shut up the guy whos been talkin **** to him for years. But he wont either, so whats his reasoning ?
Exactly. Neither wants it to happen because there would be nothing more to look forward to in the sport, period.iclfan2;970868 wrote:The ONLY thing I think could possibly true is that if they do fight, what happens next? There will never be a bigger fight either one of them could participate in.
IMO, boxing's reputation was tarnished long ago. This is just dirt on the coffin.iclfan2;970868 wrote:Also, what kind of sport doesn't have the two best people play each other. IT really tarnishes boxing's reputation imo.
You're right. completely butt hurt. And why should manny disagree to take the test? just to spite Mayweather and have an excuse not to fight him?robj55;970922 wrote:My dislike for Mayweather? Where or when did I say I disliked him? On what grounds should Floyd Mayweather be able to play athletic commissioner and try and make up his own rules when there are already rules in place? You are getting defensive and sounding butt hurt because you know Floyd is wrong.