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Nov 15, 2011 3:28 PM
Tiernan;974161 wrote:Isn't there an OC gathering this weekend for Penn State game? Please sleeper attend.
I'd love to come, but unfortunately I no longer live in Ohio.
Nov 15, 2011 3:28pm
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Nov 15, 2011 3:30 PM
ts1227;974162 wrote:That's how salaried payments work. If you work for a salary in the private sector you can work a shitload of hours for no extra pay too. What exactly are you trying to explain to sleeper with this example?
Yeah I think Sleeper is wrong on this, but you basically just explained what a salaried worker does. You could change afghanistan to walmart or mcdonald's and it is still true.

And yes I worked those hours in Afghanistan as well...
Nov 15, 2011 3:30pm
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Nov 15, 2011 3:31 PM
With your vast wealth you could private jet in couldn't you?
Nov 15, 2011 3:31pm
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Nov 15, 2011 3:34 PM
Tiernan;974184 wrote:With your vast wealth you could private jet in couldn't you?
LOL

Yeah I wish I was wealthy enough that I could afford a private jet.
Nov 15, 2011 3:34pm
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Nov 15, 2011 3:36 PM
Tiernan;974161 wrote:Isn't there an OC gathering this weekend for Penn State game? Please sleeper attend.
His interest waned the minute he found out that Jerry Sandusky most likely wasnt going to be making an appearance.
Nov 15, 2011 3:36pm
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Nov 15, 2011 3:37 PM
NYFan54;974170 wrote:I joined halfway through my Associates degree, and now that I'm out, I'll be finishing it and getting a job in the civilian world. The guys worked with are very, very humble, and have tons of humility. They don't think they deserve to be getting all the praise of Veterans day, and when we worked last year on that day, we took a few Vietnam Vets to Denny's for breakfast, and I thought they (the old guys) were going to cry right then and there. I didn't join because it was the only option I had, I joined because I wanted to. Some people get off at the fact that they're a regular ole Joe Smith who doesn't mean squat to this world, and they need to over emphasize others actions.
That's pretty awesome man I wasn't trying to say anyone on here did join because there was nothing else just in my exprience many of those I know who are joining do. I know many old Vets who are like the Vietnam vets you described. It's mostly just younger guys I see who go to the military acting as if they should be praised and treated special for doing so. My GFs dad served in the Air Force and Army. Veterans Day was our 6 month anniversary we still took him and her mom out for dinner. I also have a brother-in-law who is station in Turkey for the Air Force and I got the chance to skype with him and my sister for a bit.
Nov 15, 2011 3:37pm
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Nov 15, 2011 4:30 PM
sleeper;973851 wrote:LOL

If I'm not afraid of bullets, I'm definitely not afraid of 2 disabled war vets. My uncle got in a car crash and has no legs. He was an accountant. Maybe he should have joined the military so he wasn't a casualty of doing his other job.
sounds like he should have paid attention in driver's ed. i figured an accountant making cash money would be smarter than that.
Nov 15, 2011 4:30pm
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Nov 15, 2011 4:56 PM
DeyDurkie5;974167 wrote:i should've clarified belly. in my opinion, the life of military people sounds awful. The amount of douchebags that are in the service far outweighs the "pride" you would get from serving.

If you want, we can smoke a joint over that discussion. Just dont shoot me.


There are asshole in the service without question .. but then again there is fraging also :D

I will teach you how to "shotgun" that way the gun is use for a better reason :)
Nov 15, 2011 4:56pm
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Nov 15, 2011 7:32 PM
Belly35;974247 wrote:There are asshole in the service without question .. but then again there is fraging also :D

I will teach you how to "shotgun" that way the gun is use for a better reason :)
one step ahead of ya, no need to show me how!
Nov 15, 2011 7:32pm
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Nov 16, 2011 12:06 AM
sleeper;973858 wrote:People try to skew everything like I'm being disrespectful to vets. I appreciate the job they do, just like I appreciate the guy who makes my coffee in the morning, or the firefighter down the street saving cats. I'm just speaking about reality, instead of being hoodwinked into pretending they are special.
This is trolling at its finest. A+ and reps.
Belly35;973980 wrote:My rank in Nam provide me with a grand total of $350.00 including combat pay per mo.
Can you provide the FMV for having your face 6 inch from a boob trap that the FNG ( ****ing new guy) stepped on
How about those three short mortar rounds in the middle of a night log site that some had to disarm what the FMV for that task
Let not forget the 240 day a year in a hostil combat situation (potentially shot at) I'm sure what the a public pay scale for that is.

We are not special we just do the job that others only dream about..
I wouldn't mind having my face that close to a boob trap. Trapped with boobs? That's the dream job that I dream about.
thavoice;974187 wrote:His interest waned the minute he found out that Jerry Sandusky most likely wasnt going to be making an appearance.
Dude, really? Again.....

Nov 16, 2011 12:06am
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Nov 16, 2011 5:44 AM
sleeper;972797 wrote:Why should I give someone praise for doing their job? That was the point. You must be in the military, because logic isn't your strong suit.
I'm not in the military. I'm just a decent human being. It's funny that everyone agrees on here, but you're the odd one out? Do you not find that odd? With your disgusting way of thinking I'm sure you're 100% sure of the fact that you're right anyway.
Nov 16, 2011 5:44am
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Nov 16, 2011 9:14 AM
baseball4;974923 wrote:I'm not in the military. I'm just a decent human being. It's funny that everyone agrees on here, but you're the odd one out? Do you not find that odd? With your disgusting way of thinking I'm sure you're 100% sure of the fact that you're right anyway.
Other people agree with me. I don't know where you are getting that from.

Regardless, something being popular doesn't make it right.
Nov 16, 2011 9:14am
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Nov 16, 2011 10:14 AM
dwccrew;974865 wrote:This is trolling at its finest. A+ and reps.



I wouldn't mind having my face that close to a boob trap. Trapped with boobs? That's the dream job that I dream about.



Dude, really? Again.....

Think I went to the well one too many times with that joke?!?!?!?
Nov 16, 2011 10:14am
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Nov 16, 2011 10:34 AM
baseball4;974923 wrote:I'm not in the military. I'm just a decent human being. It's funny that everyone agrees on here, but you're the odd one out? Do you not find that odd? With your disgusting way of thinking I'm sure you're 100% sure of the fact that you're right anyway.
i agree with sleeper
Nov 16, 2011 10:34am
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Nov 16, 2011 10:48 AM
sleeper;975067 wrote:Other people agree with me. I don't know where you are getting that from.

Regardless, something being popular doesn't make it right.
????

We've establish that some want to celebrate the day recognizing veterans and some don't. Is it really a right or wrong position?

Enough people wanted to celebrate them as did enough wanting to celebrate janitors. No one is forced to do either.
Nov 16, 2011 10:48am
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Nov 17, 2011 11:05 AM
Zen;974182 wrote:Yeah I think Sleeper is wrong on this, but you basically just explained what a salaried worker does. You could change afghanistan to walmart or mcdonald's and it is still true.

And yes I worked those hours in Afghanistan as well...
The overall idea is right, but your examples suck. Most Wal-mart and McDonalds employees are paid hourly, so they would get overtime for working the 24 hours shifts.
Nov 17, 2011 11:05am
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Nov 17, 2011 11:06 AM
Con_Alma;975229 wrote:????

We've establish that some want to celebrate the day recognizing veterans and some don't. Is it really a right or wrong position?

Enough people wanted to celebrate them as did enough wanting to celebrate janitors. No one is forced to do either.
Good post. It's not really a right/wrong matter.
Nov 17, 2011 11:06am
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Nov 17, 2011 4:20 PM
You want meaningless? Look no further than January.

That, Columbus Day, and Presidents Day are just an excuse for a Three Day Sale
Nov 17, 2011 4:20pm
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Nov 17, 2011 4:25 PM
sleeper;974120 wrote:
And yes, everyone you know is going to say they joined for a purpose. They can say whatever they want to justify it, but the reality is completely different. It's like "Oh crap, I can't do anything with my life and I don't want to admit it, so I'll just pretend I want to do something bigger(whatever "bigger" means) so my friends don't think I'm a loser". That's the reality, anyway you spin it.
Again this is false.

You're arguing as if everybody makes the decision because they have no other choice.

Pat Tillman was making a pretty good living before going to the military, yes? He sacrificed his current lifestyle, did he not?

Again, 3 of my cousins who are in the military were college graduates. One got out of college making 100K a year as a pharmacist and he still chose to join the military.

People do make sacrifices upon joining the military. Even if your life is in shambles, there are still jobs in retail, food, etc, that probably offer comparable salary and far less risk.
Nov 17, 2011 4:25pm
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Nov 17, 2011 4:42 PM
hoops23;976741 wrote:Again this is false.

You're arguing as if everybody makes the decision because they have no other choice.

Pat Tillman was making a pretty good living before going to the military, yes? He sacrificed his current lifestyle, did he not?

Again, 3 of my cousins who are in the military were college graduates. One got out of college making 100K a year as a pharmacist and he still chose to join the military.

People do make sacrifices upon joining the military. Even if your life is in shambles, there are still jobs in retail, food, etc, that probably offer comparable salary and far less risk.
These are all cops out for real reasons. You're cousin hated his job as a pharmacist and wanted the easy way out. The other two cousins probably couldn't get a job outside of cleaning toilets.

This is an argument you won't win, nice try though.
Nov 17, 2011 4:42pm