I agree with the "beat ourselves" logic but I think Norwayne has the team to make us pay for any mistakes we make. We've seen this team overcome mistakes against the average teams (Clear Fork, West Holmes) but pay for mistakes against the good ones (Copley).
If we play turnover free and less than 5 penalties, we'll be a very hard team to beat....but if we make bad decisions that lead to turnovers and have silly penalties that sustain Norwayne drives, it will get interesting.

Let's be honest...our biggest opponent all year has been ourselves. With the exception of maybe the Ashland game. We cut a few mistakes out and we're 10-1 right now at worst.

4QuarterPounders;967653 wrote:I believe you have to fully respect the other program and the fact they are capable of beating you. Norwayne is an exceptional WCAL team but I think it's going too far to say these teams are evenly matched.
Is Norwayne's defense an even match with Orrville's defense? No. Look at what the highest powered offenses have done against the Red Rider D.
Is Norwayne's defense an even match with Orrville's offense? No. Can they defend our receivers AND keep an eye on Brenner AND stack the line to shut down Monheim? No.
Orrville loses when they have injuries, turnovers and penalties--not because of lack of talent or they were overmatched.
Orrville is healthy, therefore they will not lose because they were beaten by a better team. They will only lose if they go back to turning the ball over and making dumb penalties.

Norwayne has to play their best if they hope to win, but if Orrville plays their best they can't lose.

This mentallity will get you beat Saturday night. I respect the Orrville program and fans, haven't said much this week, should be a great game. The match-ups have been talked to death, so my 2 cents doesn't matter. Orrville fans should expect a route, but if your players feel the same as above post, they will be in for a lonnng night. (I am sure the players are focused on the game and have respect for their opponent.) Hope all the young men stay safe.

Outstanding article in The Daily Record, today!
http://www.the-daily-record.com/news/article/5122603?page=0

thePITman;967769 wrote:Outstanding article in The Daily Record, today!
http://www.the-daily-record.com/news/article/5122603?page=0

That's the headline that prompted my post. These teams are not evenly matched, but as a coach and a player you have to give all the respect in the world to the other team or you will get beat. Norwayne is not evenly matched with Orrville, but Norwayne will win if they play their best game and capitalize if Orrville makes mistakes like they have in the past. If Orrville plays their best, they will not lose.

4QuarterPounders;967803 wrote:That's the headline that prompted my post. These teams are not evenly matched, but as a coach and a player you have to give all the respect in the world to the other team or you will get beat. Norwayne is not evenly matched with Orrville, but Norwayne will win if they play their best game and capitalize if Orrville makes mistakes like they have in the past. If Orrville plays their best, they will not lose.

I respectfully disagree. I think if both teams play their best, that it will be a great game! Sure, many would think Orrville is the favorite, and I am one of those people. But I expect it to be a good game. If Norwayne wins, it will be because they were the better team tomorrow night, played better and executed better. If Orrville wins, it will be because they were the better team tomorrow night, played better and executed better. To think anything else, IMO, like "if Norwayne wins it will have been because Orrville made mistakes", is an injustice to both these teams.

Lets be careful what we say, I remember a lot of people thinking we were going to blow Triway away last year also in the playoffs, if I recall it went right down to the wire.

BUFORO;967562 wrote:Just wanted to take a moment to thank all the veterans out there for all you have done for all of us. Withouut you men and women over the past 200+ years this game tomorrow night would not of been possible. Once again "THANK YOU":thumbup: GO RED RIDERS

Great post and again Thank You to all who have made our freedom possible! God bless!

4QuarterPounders;967653 wrote:I believe you have to fully respect the other program and the fact they are capable of beating you. Norwayne is an exceptional WCAL team but I think it's going too far to say these teams are evenly matched.
Is Norwayne's defense an even match with Orrville's defense? No. Look at what the highest powered offenses have done against the Red Rider D.
Is Norwayne's defense an even match with Orrville's offense? No. Can they defend our receivers AND keep an eye on Brenner AND stack the line to shut down Monheim? No.
Orrville loses when they have injuries, turnovers and penalties--not because of lack of talent or they were overmatched.
Orrville is healthy, therefore they will not lose because they were beaten by a better team. They will only lose if they go back to turning the ball over and making dumb penalties.

Norwayne has to play their best if they hope to win, but if Orrville plays their best they can't lose.

Slow that horse your on down, Norwayne is a great football team and has the talent to win this game....I've seen them in person twice. If we give them the opportunities to take the lead, or give them the ball...they have the guys to make us pay for it.

RedRider1;967719 wrote:I agree with the "beat ourselves" logic but I think Norwayne has the team to make us pay for any mistakes we make. We've seen this team overcome mistakes against the average teams (Clear Fork, West Holmes) but pay for mistakes against the good ones (Copley).
If we play turnover free and less than 5 penalties, we'll be a very hard team to beat....but if we make bad decisions that lead to turnovers and have silly penalties that sustain Norwayne drives, it will get interesting.

Let's be honest...our biggest opponent all year has been ourselves. With the exception of maybe the Ashland game. We cut a few mistakes out and we're 10-1 right now at worst.

Great post...

was_that_it;967722 wrote:This mentallity will get you beat Saturday night. I respect the Orrville program and fans, haven't said much this week, should be a great game. The match-ups have been talked to death, so my 2 cents doesn't matter. Orrville fans should expect a route, but if your players feel the same as above post, they will be in for a lonnng night. (I am sure the players are focused on the game and have respect for their opponent.) Hope all the young men stay safe.

Trust me, the coaches and players have one thing on their mind...beating Norwayne! They will respect the opponent just like they do every single week and go into the game with the Red Rider Swag and give their best effort to win the game......as will the Bobcats.

thePITman;967807 wrote:I respectfully disagree. I think if both teams play their best, that it will be a great game! Sure, many would think Orrville is the favorite, and I am one of those people. But I expect it to be a good game. If Norwayne wins, it will be because they were the better team tomorrow night, played better and executed better. If Orrville wins, it will be because they were the better team tomorrow night, played better and executed better. To think anything else, IMO, like "if Norwayne wins it will have been because Orrville made mistakes", is an injustice to both these teams.

I agree, NO excuses! Whoever wins was the better team that night....and like coach Davault said in the paper, no matter what the outcome is, this single game should not define either program. Best of luck to both teams.


I just want to see a great football game between two great communities battling for their season to continue.....and hopefully my Red Riders will come out on top!


GO RIDERS!

Riderpower;967706 wrote:

Well said 4QuarterPounders. Only way the Riders don't win this game is if they beat themselves. With us being at full strength we are the Mighty Red Riders and I see none stopping us in this region. Go Riders!

4QuarterPounders;967653 wrote:I believe you have to fully respect the other program and the fact they are capable of beating you. Norwayne is an exceptional WCAL team but I think it's going too far to say these teams are evenly matched.
Is Norwayne's defense an even match with Orrville's defense? No. Look at what the highest powered offenses have done against the Red Rider D.
Is Norwayne's defense an even match with Orrville's offense? No. Can they defend our receivers AND keep an eye on Brenner AND stack the line to shut down Monheim? No.
Orrville loses when they have injuries, turnovers and penalties--not because of lack of talent or they were overmatched.
Orrville is healthy, therefore they will not lose because they were beaten by a better team. They will only lose if they go back to turning the ball over and making dumb penalties.

Norwayne has to play their best if they hope to win, but if Orrville plays their best they can't lose.

4QuarterPounders;967803 wrote:That's the headline that prompted my post. These teams are not evenly matched, but as a coach and a player you have to give all the respect in the world to the other team or you will get beat. Norwayne is not evenly matched with Orrville, but Norwayne will win if they play their best game and capitalize if Orrville makes mistakes like they have in the past. If Orrville plays their best, they will not lose.

Starting to sound like Genoa

I'm putting together a little something special for tonight/tomorrow... I need a little help. Can someone please tell me of somebody on Norwayne's football team that is being recruited for college football? (or for any college sport, really) Thanks! I'd appreciate a list of teams interested, and their preferred school, if known.

We don't wanna sound like Genoa... We all know where that leaves u.

Yea no need to be overzealous here. Just need to keep this train rolling!

I'd assume Wallace, but not sure who is after him.

BUFORO;967562 wrote:Just wanted to take a moment to thank all the veterans out there for all you have done for all of us. Withouut you men and women over the past 200+ years this game tomorrow night would not of been possible. Once again "THANK YOU":thumbup: GO RED RIDERS

Thank You! GO BOBCATS

Alright guys we've had our fun debating I say we take the rest of the time till gametime to reflect on the season of great football we have been blessed to watch this fall and let the results fall in as they may as both teams play their hearts out tomorrow

Maybe someone needs to provide this to the team to shower with tomorrow. Every little bit helps.

Just asking I was told that Norwayne practice at the Medina field yesterday is that allowed??

sports time ohio;968162 wrote:Just asking I was told that Norwayne practice at the Medina field yesterday is that allowed??

Yes, we practiced at Canton Central Catholic multiple times during the 2006 playoffs....had 2 games there in week 12 and 13.

Here's a video to get everyone pumped up for tomorrow!!!

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nice video! I would be ready to play after that one.

Everybody says they want to see a good game, so my question to you is what does that mean? A good game in my eyes is a Rider Victory but I like the kind of games like last week and Wooster. I like to see us doninate. Now I don't think that will happen this week because we are playing a good team, but a good game for me is a blow out win. It is easier for me to watch and relax that way. Lol!

rrfan;968190 wrote:nice video! I would be ready to play after that one.

Everybody says they want to see a good game, so my question to you is what does that mean? A good game in my eyes is a Rider Victory but I like the kind of games like last week and Wooster. I like to see us doninate. Now I don't think that will happen this week because we are playing a good team, but a good game for me is a blow out win. It is easier for me to watch and relax that way. Lol!

That is a great point rrfan! I would have to agree with that assesment....I think this game could and probably will be very close. As long as the Riders win though, that's all that matters to me!

Hey OQB: Ready for Fawcett tonight!!!

^^^ I don't know about OQB, but I am.

oldsmithie;968215 wrote:Hey OQB: Ready for Fawcett tonight!!!

Old Rider;968224 wrote:^^^ I don't know about OQB, but I am.

Absolutely! I havn't missed a game between these two schools. Great atmosphere, great fans, and great night of Ohio high school football!

OQB;968226 wrote:Absolutely! I havn't missed a game between these two schools. Great atmosphere, great fans, and great night of Ohio high school football!

...and good concessions as well!

We are going to Roosters before the Big Red/Mooney game.