Writerbuckeye;897095 wrote:More money to Columbus schools is just about as bad. Talk about throwing it down a rat hole.
Bigdogg;898405 wrote:I would love to hear your idea of fixing Columbus city schools. Let me guess, more vouchers.
Writerbuckeye;898416 wrote:I don't believe big city schools are fixable as they now exist. The teachers union contracts, and the lack of parental involvement combine to make a pretty toxic environment. One thing I know for certain won't fix them: throwing more money at them.
Once the schools were taken out of the neighborhoods under the guise of desegregation, they lost any community support that had been there, and that even further complicated the issue.
Vouchers at least give options to those parents who are involved but don't have the resources to move or put their kids in private school; but they aren't going to fix the problem. Then again, nothing can.
Bigdogg;898421 wrote:Please give proof of the positive correlation between teacher union contracts and poor student performance. This should be good
Gblock;898472 wrote:columbus city schools actually outperforms districts of similar size and demographics
Writerbuckeye;898474 wrote:The contracts will block any attempts to adjust staffing, evaluations of staff members and compensation based on merit rather than longevity. Anything that is innovative that would require changes in hours, additional responsibilities, etc. would likely go against the contract as well.
My main point remains: I don't believe large urban districts are fixable any longer. Too many variables for a one size fits all fix.
Honestly, I think we'd be better off issuing vouchers to those families that truly care about education, disbanding districts like Columbus that do nothing but fail in almost every way, and eliminate the law that says kids have to stay in school until they're 16.
Let those who really want an education get it from a district that's succeeding.
Perhaps if the district were simply disbanded and those taxes eliminated, neighborhoods in the city that want to re-start an education plan in their own areas would be free to do so.
You can't force people to get an education when they don't want to be there, and that's what we're now doing. It's an abject failure in pretty much every major urban school district in the country.
Writerbuckeye;898475 wrote:So of those that suck, they suck the least. got it.
Gblock;898478 wrote:some people will never see the positive. ccs has made great improvements in the last 10 years. our grad rate will be close to 80 percent this year and our dropout rate less than 5 percent. with an 18 percent special ed pop and a 12 percent pop that speaks limited english. your right writer vouchers are great and the parents who do care do use them, but what about the kids that are left? that no one cares about? i will continue to work and advocate for them everyday despite negative people like yourself who think that you are better than others. i would love to see how you wouldve turned out or even if you would have survived through some of the things these kids go thru. two of our high schools are even ranked nationally proving that you can come to ccs and get prepared for college and life success if you take advantage of the opportunites we provide.
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