hoops23;885556 wrote:Fuk/Brantley/Choo and Carrera as utility OF/spot starter.

Santana to 1B, mainly because we're stuck with Hafner.

I look to trade LaPorta for something. Give Lou some extended time at C, and perhaps look for a 3B. I don't know if Lonnie can play 1B, but the 1B FA class is WEAK outside of the big names (which we're not getting). I'd move Lonnie to 1B and look to either trade for or sign a 3B.

I think Druby and Kipnis are a solid nucleus up the middle.

Hannahan has been playing a little 1B lately it looks like. I like him and can see him there if there isnt a good 1B out there to be had. I'd keep Chisenhall as a back up 3B still if we can get one through FA or trade. Hannahan has a better glove, so i would like to keep him in the field.

Whats Thome's deal for next year? he retiring or gonna want to stick it out for one more go around?

As for Grady, I've heard rumors that the Tribe would decline his option, but rework a new deal for less money, but offer him the chance to make up the cash based on performance bonuses.

I think this is the scenario that makes the most sense. No one is going to give Sizemore $9 million + at this point. But if they decline the option, he is a free agent.

This team's number one weakness at the beginning of the season was depth. That has hurt them. The second issue coming in was offense and specifically a right-handed stick. The pitching was above average coming into the season.

This team has overall had an above average year mostly because of the good start which was a result of some very timely/lucky situational hitting.

Tribe up 4-2 in the 4th as Shelley Duncan is in full out beast mode with TWO 2R Jacks off Verlander...

Im not saying he is the answer. But Shelly Duncan really should have gotten steady PT this season. Even at .250 its exactly what we needed. Someone who may have belted 25 HRs from the right side. Now,

Masterson escapes a bases loaded jam by getting V-Mart with two out in the 5th. Tribe coming to bat up 4-2...

4-3 Tribe top of the 7th...bases loaded, nobody out with V-Mart at the plate. This won't end well...

Lets be fair, it's 4-3 Shelly Duncan. The rest of them still suck and don't need the credit on this one, lol

baaaaaaaahahahahahaahhahaah the bullpen throws what like two pitches between Smith and Sipp and give up 5 runs.

victor martinez has sure been a bastard this series

Just turned the game on a few minutes ago. Trevor Crowe is back? unfortunately its too late.

Glory Days;886366 wrote:Just turned the game on a few minutes ago. Trevor Crowe is back? Thats unfortunate.

FIFY. I hate Trevor Crowe.

Chiz !

ts1227;886357 wrote:Lets be fair, it's 4-3 Shelly Duncan.

That's my boy!

Laley23;886297 wrote:Im not saying he is the answer. But Shelly Duncan really should have gotten steady PT this season. Even at .250 its exactly what we needed. Someone who may have belted 25 HRs from the right side. Now,

plus, from what I understand, he's a great clubhouse guy, he's always busting his ass, and he STAYS HEALTHY!!!!

vball10set;886493 wrote:plus, from what I understand, he's a great clubhouse guy, he's always busting his ass, and he STAYS HEALTHY!!!!

Add this to what you quoted Laley on and you have thoughts expressed by me months ago. All that is why he's my favorite Indian who should have NEVER been sent down, let alone three or four times. SMH! Today's game was more insult to injury, too.

Great couple of weeks by the tribe. I need to get in on those playoff ticket preorder they are advertising

BRF;886505 wrote:Add this to what you quoted Laley on and you have thoughts expressed by me months ago. All that is why he's my favorite Indian who should have NEVER been sent down, let alone three or four times. SMH! Today's game was more insult to injury, too.

:thumbup:

Duncan is really putting some stock in his name, I would like to see him as a utility guy next year. He can play first base too!

BRF, I was on the Duncan train as well way back when.

I firmly believe that the reason Duncan got yo-yo'ed back and forth from Columbus was because of the insistance of carrying some dead weight on the roster by the name of Kearns.

I think if Duncan keeps these numbers for the rest of the year, they will keep him and Santana to play 1b.

Shelly has been the only bright spot this past week. He's has two games with two HRs this week.

Here is a list of the 2012 free agents from MLBtraderumors.com

Updated 9-5-11
Catchers
Rod Barajas (36)
Josh Bard (34)
Henry Blanco (40)
Ramon Castro (36)
Ryan Doumit (31) - $7.25MM club option for 2012, $8.25MM club option for '13 with a $500K buyout
Ramon Hernandez (36)
Jason Kendall (38)
Gerald Laird (32)
Jose Molina (36)
Yadier Molina (29) - $7MM club option with a $750K buyout
Dioner Navarro (28)
Ivan Rodriguez (40)
Brian Schneider (35)
Kelly Shoppach (29) - $3.2MM club option with a $300K buyout
Chris Snyder (31) - $6.75MM club option with a $750K buyout
Matt Treanor (36)
Jason Varitek (40)
First basemen
Lance Berkman (36)
Russell Branyan (36)
Jorge Cantu (30)
Michael Cuddyer (33)
Prince Fielder (28)
Ross Gload (36)
Brad Hawpe (33)
Eric Hinske (34) - $1.5MM club option with a $100K buyout
Casey Kotchman (29)
Mark Kotsay (36)
Derrek Lee (36)
Xavier Nady (33)
Lyle Overbay (35)
Carlos Pena (34)
Wily Mo Pena (30)
Albert Pujols (32)
Second basemen
Alfredo Amezaga (34)
Clint Barmes (33)
Willie Bloomquist (34) - $1.1MM mutual option with a $150K buyout
Orlando Cabrera (37)
Robinson Cano (29) - $14MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Jamey Carroll (37)
Alex Cora (36)
Craig Counsell (41)
Mark Ellis (35)
Jerry Hairston Jr. (36)
Bill Hall (32) - $4MM mutual option with a $250K buyout
Aaron Hill (30) - $8MM club option for 2012 and $8MM club option for '13
Omar Infante (30)
Kelly Johnson (30)
Adam Kennedy (36)
Felipe Lopez (32)
Jose Lopez (28)
Aaron Miles (35)
Brandon Phillips (31) - $12MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Shortstops
Clint Barmes (33)
Yuniesky Betancourt (30) - $6MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Orlando Cabrera (37)
Jamey Carroll (37)
Ronny Cedeno (29) - $3MM club option with a $200K buyout
Craig Counsell (41)
Rafael Furcal (34) - $12MM club option with a $1.3MM buyout
Alex Gonzalez (34)
Jerry Hairston Jr. (36)
Omar Infante (30)
Cesar Izturis (32)
John McDonald (37)
Nick Punto (34)
Edgar Renteria (35)
Jose Reyes (29)
Jimmy Rollins (33)
Ramon Santiago (32)
Marco Scutaro (36) - $6MM club option/$3MM player option with a $1.5MM buyout
Miguel Tejada (38)
Jack Wilson (34)
Third basemen
Wilson Betemit (30)
Casey Blake (38) - $6MM club option with a $1.25MM buyout
Jorge Cantu (30)
Eric Chavez (34)
Craig Counsell (41)Mark DeRosa (37)
Greg Dobbs (33)
Edwin Encarnacion (29) - $3.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Jerry Hairston Jr. (36)
Omar Infante (30)
Felipe Lopez (32)
Jose Lopez (28)
Nick Punto (34)
Aramis Ramirez (34) - $16MM club option with a $2MM buyout; Ramirez can void
Miguel Tejada (38)
Omar Vizquel (45)
Left fielders
Pat Burrell (35)
Johnny Damon (37)
Mark DeRosa (37)
Jonny Gomes (31)
Carlos Guillen (36)
Scott Hairston (32)
Bill Hall (32) - $4MM mutual option with a $250K buyout
Willie Harris (34)
Eric Hinske (34) - $1.5MM club option with a $100K buyout
Raul Ibanez (40)
Conor Jackson (30)
Reed Johnson (35)
Ryan Ludwick (33)
Jason Michaels (36)
Laynce Nix (31)
Juan Pierre (34)
Scott Podsednik (36)
Juan Rivera (33)
Marcus Thames (35)
Josh Willingham (33)
Center fielders
Rick Ankiel (32)
Carlos Beltran (35)
Willie Bloomquist (34) - $1.1MM mutual option with a $150K buyout
Mike Cameron (39)
Coco Crisp (32)
David DeJesus (32)
Scott Hairston (32)
Andruw Jones (35)
Nate McLouth (30) - $10.65MM club option with a $1.25MM buyout
Corey Patterson (32)
Cody Ross (31)
Grady Sizemore (29) - $8.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Right fielders
Lance Berkman (36)
Willie Bloomquist (34) - $1.1MM mutual option with a $150K buyout
Milton Bradley (34)
Michael Cuddyer (33)
David DeJesus (32)
J.D. Drew (36)
Kosuke Fukudome (35)
Willie Harris (34)
Brad Hawpe (33)
Jason Kubel (29)
Ryan Ludwick (33)
Xavier Nady (33)
Magglio Ordonez (38)
Cody Ross (31)
Nick Swisher (31) - $10.25MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Josh Willingham (33)
Designated hitters
Milton Bradley (34)
Johnny Damon (37)
Jason Giambi (41)
Vladimir Guerrero (37)
Carlos Guillen (36)
David Ortiz (36)
Jason Kubel (29)
Hideki Matsui (38)
Jorge Posada (40)
Jim Thome (41)
Starting pitchers
Erik Bedard (33)
Mark Buehrle (33)
Chris Capuano (33)
Chris Carpenter (37) - $15MM club option with a $1MM buyoutBruce Chen (35)
Bartolo Colon (39)
Aaron Cook (33) - $11MM mutual option with a $500K buyout
Kyle Davies (28)
Doug Davis (36)
Ryan Dempster (35) - $14MM player option, no buyout
Zach Duke (29) - $5.5MM club option with a $750K buyout
Jeff Francis (30)
Freddy Garcia (36)
Jon Garland (32) - $8MM club option with a $500K buyout
Aaron Harang (34) - $5MM mutual option with a $500K buyout
Rich Harden (30)
Livan Hernandez (37)
Hisashi Iwakuma (31)
Edwin Jackson (28)
Kenshin Kawakami (37)
Scott Kazmir (28) - $13.5MM club option with a $2.5MM buyout
Hiroki Kuroda (37)
Rodrigo Lopez (36)
Paul Maholm (30) - $9.75MM club option with a $750K buyout
Jason Marquis (33)
Kevin Millwood (37)
Sergio Mitre (31)
Roy Oswalt (34) - $16MM mutual option with a $2MM buyout
Brad Penny (34)
Oliver Perez (30)
Joel Pineiro (33)
C.C. Sabathia (31) - may opt out of remaining four years, $92MM
Javier Vazquez (35)
Adam Wainwright (30) - $10MM vesting option for '12, $12MM for '13
Tim Wakefield (45)
Chien-Ming Wang (32)
Brandon Webb (33)
Dontrelle Willis (30)
C.J. Wilson (31)
Chris Young (33)
Closers
Heath Bell (34)
Jonathan Broxton (28)
Matt Capps (28)
Francisco Cordero (37) - $12MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Frank Francisco (32)
Brad Lidge (35) - $12.5MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout
Joe Nathan (37) - $12.5MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Jonathan Papelbon (31)
Jon Rauch (33) - $3.75MM club option with a $250K buyout
Francisco Rodriguez (30)
Rafael Soriano (32) - $11MM player option or a $1.5MM buyout
Jose Valverde (34) - $9MM club option, no buyout
Right-handed relievers
Luis Ayala (34)
Danys Baez (34)
Miguel Batista (41)
Shawn Camp (36)
Todd Coffey (31)
Juan Cruz (31)
Octavio Dotel (38) - $3.75MM club option with a $750K buyout
Chad Durbin (34)
Kyle Farnsworth (36) - $3.3MM club option with a $650K buyout
Jason Frasor (34) - $3.75MM club option
LaTroy Hawkins (37)
Aaron Heilman (33)
Ryota Igarashi (33)
Jason Isringhausen (39)
Scott Linebrink (35)
Mike MacDougal (35)
Ryan Madson (31)
Guillermo Mota (38)
Ramon Ortiz (39)
Micah Owings (29)
Vicente Padilla (34)
Joel Peralta (36)
Chad Qualls (33) - $6MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout
Jon Rauch (33) - $3.75MM club option with a $250K buyout
Fernando Rodney (35)
Takashi Saito (42)
Yoshinori Tateyama (36) - $1MM club option
Dan Wheeler (34) - $3MM club option with no buyout; vests with 65 appearances in 2011
Kerry Wood (35)
Jamey Wright (37)
Michael Wuertz (33) - $3.25MM club option with a $250K buyout
Joel Zumaya (27)
Left-handed relievers
Jeremy Affeldt (33) - $5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Tim Byrdak (38)
Mike Gonzalez (34)
John Grabow (33)
Javier Lopez (34)
Damaso Marte (37) - $4MM club option with a $250K buyout
Hideki Okajima (36) - can opt for free agency
Darren Oliver (41)
Arthur Rhodes (41) - $4MM club option with a $200K buyout; vests with 62 appearances
J.C. Romero (36)
George Sherrill (35)
Brian Tallet (34)