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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jul 31, 2011 7:56am
well, we gave up the farm, so we'll see what happens...and to be honest, I can't wait for football season to begin 
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jul 31, 2011 8:48am
Some people got their wish.
We'll see if it sells any tickets now.
We'll see if it sells any tickets now.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Jul 31, 2011 9:07am
Well, after sleeping on the trade, I don't feel any better about it. Jimenez has to come in and be an ACE. We'll just have to wait and see what develops and how White and Pomeranz do in the future.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jul 31, 2011 9:09am
I was at the game last night, had a great time. We were down on the porch when Laporta went deep.
I dont mind the trade. It would have been nice to keep White or Pom but Ubaldo puts them in a better position to win this year. Get into the playoffs with that rotation and who knows...
I dont mind the trade. It would have been nice to keep White or Pom but Ubaldo puts them in a better position to win this year. Get into the playoffs with that rotation and who knows...
BRF
Posts: 8,748
Jul 31, 2011 12:47pm
Ain't that the truth, brother!TBone14;847163 wrote:I love the guys coming out of the woodwork tonight. There is a group of about 7-8 of us on here every night talking Tribe. They make a move and guys post I've never heard of.
I feel no better today than I did last night on this trade. White proved himself to me before he injured his finger. Pitching is our strength. We need bats. Maybe if we get Ludwick, I will feel better.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Jul 31, 2011 12:53pm
Haven't had the internet due to moving but I am on the fence with this trade.
Like I stated before, I'd only trade our top pitching prospects for a legit starter. Jiminez has the stuff to be that legit starter, he proved that last season and has been decent when healthy this year. I am unsure about trading both White and Pomeranz but there are some positives. I think our farm will recover, we've had Adam Miller as a top prospect who never panned out.
Jiminez contract is very friendly and he puts us in the position to win now. The rotation looks a lot better with Masterson, Jiminez, and Tomlin at the top of the rotation if we can win the Central.
I expect Cleveland to pick up Ludwick today to add another bat to the lineup. But pitching wins championships and if the offense is going to continue to blow, I'll take the extra support in the rotation.
Like I stated before, I'd only trade our top pitching prospects for a legit starter. Jiminez has the stuff to be that legit starter, he proved that last season and has been decent when healthy this year. I am unsure about trading both White and Pomeranz but there are some positives. I think our farm will recover, we've had Adam Miller as a top prospect who never panned out.
Jiminez contract is very friendly and he puts us in the position to win now. The rotation looks a lot better with Masterson, Jiminez, and Tomlin at the top of the rotation if we can win the Central.
I expect Cleveland to pick up Ludwick today to add another bat to the lineup. But pitching wins championships and if the offense is going to continue to blow, I'll take the extra support in the rotation.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jul 31, 2011 12:53pm
www.sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Arh8WKNVAuTCviXg73UfGrs5nYcB?slug=jp-passan_indians_rockies_jimenez_prospects_073111
I'd love to hear a counter argument that accounts for the completely unknown nature of pitching prospects.
I'd love to hear a counter argument that accounts for the completely unknown nature of pitching prospects.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Jul 31, 2011 1:08pm
Indians close to deal with Ryan Ludwick per Yahoo on mlbtraderumors.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Jul 31, 2011 1:10pm
I read Ludwick is close also. Question is, who do we give up? Do we try and move Grady?
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Jul 31, 2011 1:12pm
iclfan2;847376 wrote:I read Ludwick is close also. Question is, who do we give up? Do we try and move Grady?
Ludwick will land a deal similar to the Cubs trade. No real high prospects.
Kearns out.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Jul 31, 2011 1:14pm
What the hell is up with Carmona?
Does the guy dunk his cap in water or does he have a sweating problem.
Does the guy dunk his cap in water or does he have a sweating problem.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Jul 31, 2011 1:32pm
lol....Carmona does sweat a lot.
AC with another top 10 play to end the inning.
AC with another top 10 play to end the inning.
TBone14
Posts: 6,383
Jul 31, 2011 2:02pm
Duffy has picked off Brantly and Cabrera in the first 3 innings. We have a hard enough time scoring without making outs on the bases.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jul 31, 2011 2:06pm
TBone14;847415 wrote:Duffy has picked off Brantly and Cabrera in the first 3 innings. We have a hard enough time scoring without making outs on the bases.
He picked off AC twice but time was called on the first one... He almost picked off Brantley with a snap throw, then he picks him off going on first movement...
Not real sure WTF these guys are doing.
TBone14
Posts: 6,383
Jul 31, 2011 2:11pm
I'm sure this walk with unravel Carmona. He can't find the zone right now.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jul 31, 2011 2:13pm
It's gotten really hard to watch these guys--they're making mistakes that are made in junior knothole, and I just don't see any fire out of Acta when we continue to make mental errors...again, it's frustrating to watch.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Jul 31, 2011 2:14pm
Fucking errors again are killing this team.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Jul 31, 2011 2:14pm
Prepare for the usual mental Carmona breakdown.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Jul 31, 2011 2:15pm
And we are back to playing little league defense....
TBone14
Posts: 6,383
Jul 31, 2011 2:15pm
WtF is Santana doing out there? Standing in foul territory does what exactly when there is a relay coming to a possible play at the plate?
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Jul 31, 2011 2:16pm
Gotta get the offense going.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jul 31, 2011 2:16pm
Too bad we can;t trade for a replacement defense.
TBone14
Posts: 6,383
Jul 31, 2011 2:21pm
Just a heads up. Verlander is through 5. Not exactly call your friends time but he is sharp today.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Jul 31, 2011 2:24pm
TBone14;847436 wrote:Just a heads up. Verlander is through 5. Not exactly call your friends time but he is sharp today.
Just another ho hum day at the park for him.
Every time out is a potential no hitter for him with his stuff.
TBone14
Posts: 6,383
Jul 31, 2011 2:28pm
Fucking 0-2 cockshot. Fucking Carmona.