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May 29, 2011 11:16 AM
Con_Alma;784501 wrote:We disagree on that. If he is over the legal limit his ability to drive defensively is reduced.

Do you know what ultimately happened with that situation?

If he wasn't over the limit he should not be charged.

He was over the limit and got 30 days in jail.
May 29, 2011 11:16am
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Con_Alma

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May 29, 2011 11:18 AM
Thx
May 29, 2011 11:18am
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May 29, 2011 11:18 AM
Con_Alma;784501 wrote:We disagree on that. If he is over the legal limit his ability to drive defensively is reduced.

Do you know what ultimately happened with that situation?

If he wasn't over the limit he should not be charged.

Stallworth was definitely "drunk" by legal standards but the accident occurred at 7 AM, and there was no way he was still drinking at that point. My guess is he tried to "sober up" for a bit before driving and all of a sudden some dumbass runs right in front of him (jaywalking) and get's killed. I think Stallworth served 24 days in jail.

Here's the link

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4262751
May 29, 2011 11:18am
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Con_Alma

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May 29, 2011 2:34 PM
lhslep134;784507 wrote:Stallworth was definitely "drunk" by legal standards...
Isn't that the whole point? He was breaking the law. Doesn't seem like 24 days and two years of house arrest is an unreasonable penalty.

lhslep134;784507 wrote:...but the accident occurred at 7 AM, and there was no way he was still drinking at that point....
I don't know if that is relevant to his guilt especially considering he pleaded guilty to DUI manslaughter. Clearly you don't have to be drinking at 7:00 AM to be guilty of DUI.

It sounds to me after reading that article that he was very willing to be accountable for his actions.
May 29, 2011 2:34pm
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May 29, 2011 7:33 PM
DeyDurkie5;784495 wrote:I can't remember, but imo he shouldn't be charged with anything. If someone walks into your car, while you are merging onto the highway, then you shouldn't have any blame/fault in the matter.
You do if you're over the legal limit which he was.
May 29, 2011 7:33pm
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May 29, 2011 7:35 PM
Con_Alma;783954 wrote:Do you honestly believe that people think that shame and penalty is worse than hurting another?

Honestly, I could drive at a .09, but the shame and stigma that come with a DUI.... no thanks
May 29, 2011 7:35pm
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Con_Alma

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May 29, 2011 8:25 PM
LJ;784698 wrote:Honestly, I could drive at a .09, but the shame and stigma that come with a DUI.... no thanks

Yeah, that's not exactly was I was getting at. I understand that a lot of folks think they can manager at certain levels.
May 29, 2011 8:25pm
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May 29, 2011 8:35 PM
Con_Alma;784722 wrote:Yeah, that's not exactly was I was getting at. I understand that a lot of folks think they can manager at certain levels.

Think, and can, are different. Honestly you should breathalyze yourself sometime at a .09, it's only like four beers. Having some OVI's is socially on par to having genital warts or something haha that's why people even risk it.
May 29, 2011 8:35pm
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Con_Alma

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May 29, 2011 8:47 PM
Tobias Fünke;784726 wrote:Think, and can, are different. ....
I have no doubts about this statement.
May 29, 2011 8:47pm
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May 29, 2011 11:26 PM
DeyDurkie5;784476 wrote:I would say 95% of people are hypocrites in some way

And the other 5% don't believe anything they do, or have ever done, is wrong.

I suppose that could be true. In essence, though, you'd have to think yourself perfect in order to not be a hypocrite, if you believe hypocrisy to be doing something you believe to be wrong.
May 29, 2011 11:26pm
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May 30, 2011 12:01 AM
O-Trap;784845 wrote:And the other 5% don't believe anything they do, or have ever done, is wrong.

I suppose that could be true. In essence, though, you'd have to think yourself perfect in order to not be a hypocrite, if you believe hypocrisy to be doing something you believe to be wrong.

I'm a hypocrite for sure...like I said, almost everyone is one. maybe not con alma though, he is perfect
May 30, 2011 12:01am
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May 30, 2011 8:30 PM
DeyDurkie5;784873 wrote:I'm a hypocrite for sure...like I said, almost everyone is one. maybe not con alma though, he is perfect

Technically, if a person didn't believe in "right or wrong," they could possibly not be a hypocrite under that definition. However, when Heretic sleeps with their wife and doesn't call her back, that guy had better not be pissed.

In reality, I'd suggest that being a "hypocrite" is more not holding oneself to the same standard as everyone else. For example:

You walk up to some infant down the street and, for no reason, punch it in the face. I do the same on my street. If I look at you and tell you that what you did was wrong, but I ALSO admit that what I did was wrong, I'm not a hypocrite. I just admit I'm imperfect.

If, however, I tell you that you were wrong to sock little Junior, but I then say that it's not wrong for me to do the same exact thing, THEN I am a hypocrite.

Doing something wrong, and believing that it is wrong, doesn't make one a hypocrite. It makes one a self-aware, imperfect being.

Doing something that one deems wrong for others to do, but then justifying it when you do it, makes one a hypocrite.
May 30, 2011 8:30pm
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May 30, 2011 8:34 PM
O-Trap;785641 wrote:...
... It makes one a self-aware, imperfect being.

....
...which is a pretty deep level of knowing thyself, an admirable quality and usually a great first step before moving closer to being a better person.
May 30, 2011 8:34pm
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May 30, 2011 9:22 PM
Yeah, doing something you think is wrong doesn't make you a hypocrite.
May 30, 2011 9:22pm
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May 31, 2011 9:58 AM
O-Trap;785641 wrote:However, when Heretic sleeps with their wife and doesn't call her back, that guy had better not be pissed.

I approve of this message.
May 31, 2011 9:58am
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May 31, 2011 12:06 PM
Heretic;786139 wrote:I approve of this message.
Figured you would.

She's fat and has mold in the beef curtains.
May 31, 2011 12:06pm
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May 31, 2011 12:29 PM
O-Trap;786309 wrote:Figured you would.

She's fat and has mold in the beef curtains.

I should have read the fine print. Now I'm going to have nightmares. Or puke like the little girl in the Exorcist. Or both.
May 31, 2011 12:29pm
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May 31, 2011 12:46 PM
If it's a busy night like New Years Eve, and you can't get a cab for hours, I say it's permissible.
May 31, 2011 12:46pm