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May 28, 2011 11:13 AM
With Memorial Day on Monday most of us will start the partying tonight. I was wondering how many of you though will drink and drive?

I for one think if a person is caught drunk driving that they should have to lose their drivers license for at least a year and if they have any accidents it should be 2 years and if a person is injured because they were drunk driving their license should be taken away for five years.

I also think if they kill someone while they are drunk driving that the death pentaly should be put on the table.

Thoughts?
May 28, 2011 11:13am
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May 28, 2011 11:25 AM
I love it.
May 28, 2011 11:25am
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May 28, 2011 11:27 AM
I for one dont drink and drive any more but used to on a regular basis. I dont care one way or another if someone drives that way. I am a firm believer when its your time its your time no matter if your playing it safe.
May 28, 2011 11:27am
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May 28, 2011 11:27 AM
derek bomar;783941 wrote:I love it.

+1
May 28, 2011 11:27am
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May 28, 2011 11:27 AM
I feel good to quite good about it.
May 28, 2011 11:27am
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May 28, 2011 11:28 AM
MANAZE;783937 wrote:With Memorial Day on Monday most of us will start the partying tonight.

You mean you didn't start partying LAST night? Three day weekends mean three nights of drinking...not two.


On topic...I think drunk driving is dumb. If I'm going out to eat, I'll have a beer or two and feel fine to drive. But if I'm planning on doing any more, I'll cab it. It sucks because cabs are expensive...but they are cheaper than a DUI.
May 28, 2011 11:28am
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May 28, 2011 11:36 AM
Been there, done that, in my younger days.

It has been quite a few years since I have draink more than 2 drinks and got behind the wheel. I lived only 3 blocks away from the bar i would only go to and I walked if I had 3 or more.


I know I could get home and not hurt myself, or anyone else, after drinking as it was so short a drive.

Am I odd to think this.....but I feel that I, and many others, are more worried about getting a DUI than actually getting into an accident and killing oneself or someone else.
A DUI, and losing ones license, the shame, the money, the driving restrictions...taht has more of a deterrant than actually hurtin someone.
May 28, 2011 11:36am
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May 28, 2011 11:38 AM
thavoice;783951 wrote:...
A DUI, and losing ones license, the shame, the money, the driving restrictions...taht has more of a deterrant than actually hurtin someone.
Do you honestly believe that people think that shame and penalty is worse than hurting another?
May 28, 2011 11:38am
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May 28, 2011 11:42 AM
thavoice;783951 wrote: Am I odd to think this.....but I feel that I, and many others, are more worried about getting a DUI than actually getting into an accident and killing oneself or someone else.
A DUI, and losing ones license, the shame, the money, the driving restrictions...taht has more of a deterrant than actually hurtin someone.
Con_Alma;783954 wrote:Do you honestly believe that people think that shame and penalty is worse than hurting another?

I feel that way. I have to drive for the day job and for the side job. If I couldn't drive, I would be completely out of work.

I don't think the shame and penalty is worse than hurting someone. I just think most people feel that getting into an accident wouldn't happen to them. But they do feel that there is a better possibility that they get pulled over and popped for a DUI. Making the fines/penalty/shame more of a deterrent.
May 28, 2011 11:42am
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thavoice

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May 28, 2011 11:46 AM
Con_Alma;783954 wrote:Do you honestly believe that people think that shame and penalty is worse than hurting another?
What I am saying that getting a DUI and that shame is what is on people's minds MORE than hurting someone. Of course hurtin someone is worse, but I am betting more people are more afraid of a DUI than getting into a wreck, and probably rightfully so.

I can guarentee you there are are MORE DUI arrests than DUI accidents. Every weekend in our a town someone gets banged, and a few in the county you can read about in the papers, but very few accidents.


I am just saying when i have a few drinks and the reason why I dont drive home isnt becuase I am afraid of an accident, it is afraid to get a DUI.
May 28, 2011 11:46am
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May 28, 2011 11:59 AM
Hmmm. Thanks for the clarification. It was very honest. It kind of took my by surprise that someone would be more worried about money and shame as opposed to bodily harm.

The question posed was done so with the focus on feelings. I don't know how I feel about it because it's too important a subject to not define my opinion based on attempted rational though as opposed to feelings. I've never really focused on the feeling side of it.
May 28, 2011 11:59am
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May 28, 2011 12:06 PM
I actually think it should be legal.

And I'll withhold the rest of my thoughts on it just to get a stir out of people. :D
May 28, 2011 12:06pm
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May 28, 2011 12:07 PM
Drunk driving has been PC'd to death over the years. Is it bad? Yes. But somehow if you go to a bar and have 2 beers and blow over the legal limit that makes you a demon of society. I think the punishment is too severe as it stands right now.

Cue the "My cousin's nephew was killed by a DD, how dare you defend DDs?"
May 28, 2011 12:07pm
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May 28, 2011 12:11 PM
I don't do it, I don't drink, so I think drunk driving should get life in prison on 1st offense.

If you bust out of jail and get caught drunk driving again, death penalty.



Seriously though, license should be gone for 1-2 years minimum....If you happen to injure/kill someone, many, many years in jail...Like 10-20.

It's hard because it's such a case by case thing...Going the wrong way on the E-way and killing a family of 4 = death penalty.
You crash into McDonald's and blow well over the limit = lose license for 2 years

It's hard to make an across the board ruling...
May 28, 2011 12:11pm
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May 28, 2011 12:17 PM
sleeper;783969 wrote:Drunk driving has been PC'd to death over the years. Is it bad? Yes. But somehow if you go to a bar and have 2 beers and blow over the legal limit that makes you a demon of society. I think the punishment is too severe as it stands right now.

Cue the "My cousin's nephew was killed by a DD, how dare you defend DDs?"
I had a uncle killed by a dd but i think the rules are screwed up anyways. I harbor no ill feelings toward anyone that does it. Hell ive done it a few times since then. I believe when its your time its your time. I took a test at a local college on a closed course of how much alcohol affects a person driving. It took seven beers and two shots before i had a noticeable difference in my reflexes I had a .11 bac. Does this mean i will go out and drink that much. No it dont and do i look down on people who does not at all. I believe when its your time its your time.
May 28, 2011 12:17pm
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May 28, 2011 12:20 PM
mcburg93;783974 wrote:I had a uncle killed by a dd but i think the rules are screwed up anyways. I harbor no ill feelings toward anyone that does it. Hell ive done it a few times since then. I believe when its your time its your time. I took a test at a local college on a closed course of how much alcohol affects a person driving. It took seven beers and two shots before i had a noticeable difference in my reflexes I had a .11 bac. Does this mean i will go out and drink that much. No it dont and do i look down on people who does not at all. I believe when its your time its your time.

Agreed.

I just hate it when laws are made out of emotion. There's a law enacted in New Jersey a while back that prevents 16 years from driving in a car with someone under 18(or something like this), all because some 16 year backed out the driveway too fast and got T'boned. Anyone opponent of the new law was demonized because of the bleeding hearts telling them the family lost a young child and that this law would prevent it from ever happening again.

What a joke.

Actually its this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyleigh's_Law
May 28, 2011 12:20pm
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thavoice

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May 28, 2011 12:21 PM
Con_Alma;783966 wrote:Hmmm. Thanks for the clarification. It was very honest. It kind of took my by surprise that someone would be more worried about money and shame as opposed to bodily harm.

The question posed was done so with the focus on feelings. I don't know how I feel about it because it's too important a subject to not define my opinion based on attempted rational though as opposed to feelings. I've never really focused on the feeling side of it.

That is just my honest opinion. With living so close to the bar and having friends own it I would often get a text to come on down and drive people home. The reason why is so many just dont wanna risk getting picked up..that is what I would constantly hear. Most lived within the town limits and from one end to another is 1.75 miles so it isnt a terribly long drive. Most were always concerned with a ticket and dui. Many of them were not what I would call drunk, but had enough that they would blow over .08.

A constant comment I would hear would be 'thanks man, i know it wasnt far but didnt wanna risk gettin popped'.

SImiliar would be wearing a seatbelt. I wear it 100% of the time even driving 25mph throught town. I dont particularly wear it because for the protection, but dont wanna get popped extra in a traffic stop if I dont have it on.


It may seem odd, or sick, or wierd, but I think alot of people feel that way. As I said before......people heard weekly and read into the ppaer of multiple DUI's......and rarely an accident locall.
May 28, 2011 12:21pm
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May 28, 2011 12:21 PM
sleeper;783976 wrote:I just hate it when laws are made out of emotion.

This.
May 28, 2011 12:21pm
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May 28, 2011 12:23 PM
thavoice;783977 wrote:TSImiliar would be wearing a seatbelt.

Don't get me started ...
May 28, 2011 12:23pm
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May 28, 2011 12:25 PM
mcburg93;783974 wrote:I had a uncle killed by a dd but i think the rules are screwed up anyways. I harbor no ill feelings toward anyone that does it. Hell ive done it a few times since then. I believe when its your time its your time. I took a test at a local college on a closed course of how much alcohol affects a person driving. It took seven beers and two shots before i had a noticeable difference in my reflexes I had a .11 bac. Does this mean i will go out and drink that much. No it dont and do i look down on people who does not at all. I believe when its your time its your time.

I think that's the hardest thing about drunk driving. Alcohol affects each person differently. It's hard to say that if you have a BAC of .08 you are drunk and impaired and shouldn't be driving. There are just too many factors that go into it. Someone might not be accustomed to drinking that much, and have two beers and be hammered despite the fact that their BAC is under .08. But a huge dude could be pounding beers for hours and not show any affects, despite his BAC being well over .08.

I think that's my only problem with the drunk driving laws.


Side not, that test sounds like it would be AWESOME!
May 28, 2011 12:25pm
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May 28, 2011 12:35 PM
sherm03;783980 wrote:I think that's the hardest thing about drunk driving. Alcohol affects each person differently. It's hard to say that if you have a BAC of .08 you are drunk and impaired and shouldn't be driving. There are just too many factors that go into it. Someone might not be accustomed to drinking that much, and have two beers and be hammered despite the fact that their BAC is under .08. But a huge dude could be pounding beers for hours and not show any affects, despite his BAC being well over .08.

I think that's my only problem with the drunk driving laws.


Side not, that test sounds like it would be AWESOME!
Ohhh it was like a great night at a party. got paid 50 bucks for showing up. Got to drink free and had highway patrol officers there giving us the tests. Had to have someone come pick us up but we were there for about 4 hours total and had a blast. There were about 20 people there and most of them were women and they had the hardest times with the tests. Im thinking cause most of them were smaller. A few of the guys had a hard time but for the most part most of us were over the .08 level and still able to operate the vehicle without any noticeable reaction differences.

Some other things we had to do was using a cell phone messing with the radio and talking with someone in the car. I did good on all parts until i got over the .11 level then i had a noticeable reaction time. It was prolly one of the most eye wakening things i ever took part of. Another guy there was at .15 before he messed up on anything. He was a big man that was funny as shit
May 28, 2011 12:35pm
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thavoice

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May 28, 2011 12:43 PM
There is a very important trial goin on now...the portable breathalyzer is under fire now by some lawyer. Do not know the specifics about it but it has to do tih the accuracy of the portable device
May 28, 2011 12:43pm
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May 28, 2011 12:56 PM
My sister was killed by a drunk driver. Now that that is out of the way, I will tell you how I feel about it. I thinks the laws are messed up, and need an overhaul. There needs to be tier level punishment system based of factors such as: bac, involvement in an accident, and repeat offender.
May 28, 2011 12:56pm
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May 28, 2011 1:56 PM
sleeper;783969 wrote:Drunk driving has been PC'd to death over the years. Is it bad? Yes. But somehow if you go to a bar and have 2 beers and blow over the legal limit that makes you a demon of society. I think the punishment is too severe as it stands right now.

Cue the "My cousin's nephew was killed by a DD, how dare you defend DDs?"

This. On all counts. It gets put on this "worse than anything imaginable" pedestal by interest groups like MADD, who for all intents and purposes are the descendants of the ugly cunts on this picture:



Basically a "we hate alcohol...so let's find an anti-drinking cause to bandwagon" deal. There's an idiot group of people who drive drunk and cause something bad to happen. There's also idiot groups of people who text, talk on their phone, eat, speed, get drowsy, etc. while driving and cause something bad to happen. And there are people who can do some or any of those things and still get from point A to point B with no difficulty. And so, one thing is looked at as this taboo thing that makes you evil while the others aren't. Logic 101.
May 28, 2011 1:56pm
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May 28, 2011 1:56 PM
I got popped once. The cop followed me down a very curvy road for 5 miles then on to a state route for another mile before pulling me over when I turned into a gas station. He said I "hit the line" on that curvy road. I took my test then blew and it was over the legal limit. That being said, I knew the rules and blew over the limit so I just took my punishment. My problem is, was I being that much of a menace to society that a cop had to tailgate me for a total of six miles before deciding to pull me over because I was "drunk?" I was obviously not putting anybodys life in danger or he would of pulled me over well before that, I just think it is a big money racket most of the time.
May 28, 2011 1:56pm