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May 28, 2011 2:27 PM
Well of course I support drunk driving, need to get to taco bell somehow
May 28, 2011 2:27pm
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May 28, 2011 2:50 PM
Con_Alma;783954 wrote:Do you honestly believe that people think that shame and penalty is worse than hurting another?
I don't, but a lot of people really do operate this way, especially when we're younger and just don't believe that bad things can actually happen to -us-. One of the (few) good things about being older is that you've had a chance to learn from observing other people making serious mistakes instead of learning about them the hard way.
May 28, 2011 2:50pm
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May 28, 2011 2:56 PM
thavoice;783986 wrote:There is a very important trial goin on now...the portable breathalyzer is under fire now by some lawyer. Do not know the specifics about it but it has to do tih the accuracy of the portable device

I think the trial is about a particular brand, not testing as a whole?
May 28, 2011 2:56pm
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May 28, 2011 3:38 PM
sleeper;783969 wrote:Drunk driving has been PC'd to death over the years. Is it bad? Yes. But somehow if you go to a bar and have 2 beers and blow over the legal limit that makes you a demon of society. I think the punishment is too severe as it stands right now.

Cue the "My cousin's nephew was killed by a DD, how dare you defend DDs?"

For once I agree with sleeper. I blew a .078 and was completely sober. I expected to blow a .04 or something weak. Regardless, I now educate my friends on how little alcohol is needed to be over the limit and I never drink after even a sip. Too much at risk from a reputation standpoint.

I'm 100% against DRUNK Driving, but in my opinion .08 isn't drunk. I do think anyone who blows over a .15 should have to spend a mandatory day or two in jail. If you blow over a .2, your ass deserves some serious showertime in a prison.
May 28, 2011 3:38pm
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May 28, 2011 3:41 PM
thavoice;783986 wrote:There is a very important trial goin on now...the portable breathalyzer is under fire now by some lawyer. Do not know the specifics about it but it has to do tih the accuracy of the portable device

The portable breathalyzer cannot be used in court in Ohio, so that's moot. They only test you to get a reading to take you back to the station to get a legitimate test.
May 28, 2011 3:41pm
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May 28, 2011 3:47 PM
brutus161;783991 wrote:My sister was killed by a drunk driver. Now that that is out of the way, I will tell you how I feel about it. I thinks the laws are messed up, and need an overhaul. There needs to be tier level punishment system based of factors such as: bac, involvement in an accident, and repeat offender.
That's incredibly logical.

I think it's incredibly stupid and there is no need to drive drunk. Mind you this is coming from someone with an OVUAC.
May 28, 2011 3:47pm
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May 28, 2011 4:05 PM
I Wear Pants;784061 wrote:That's incredibly logical.

I think it's incredibly stupid and there is no need to drive drunk. Mind you this is coming from someone with an OVUAC.

so you are a hypocrit?
May 28, 2011 4:05pm
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May 28, 2011 4:33 PM
MANAZE;783937 wrote:I also think if they kill someone while they are drunk driving that the death pentaly should be put on the table.

Thoughts?

I think this seemed kind of steep. Did you know that when you're driving and texting, you're comparable to twice the legal limit? I heard that on NBC Nightly News back in 2009 I believe. Would you put the death penalty on the table for someone who commits vehicular homicide because they were texting while driving? Couldn't you technically link most (if not all) vehicular homicides to some type of distraction or "impairment"?
Nobody gets behind the wheel drunk with the intent to kill, but neither does the guy driving while texting, or talking on the phone, or dicking around the with radio, or eating Taco Bell. But the make that same mistake -- their full attention isn't on the road.
I get the point of it, though. If you do drive drunk and take someone's life, why should you get yours?
May 28, 2011 4:33pm
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May 28, 2011 4:40 PM
DeyDurkie5;784069 wrote:so you are a hypocrit?
No, just because you do something stupid doesn't mean you have to endorse that action. They're called mistakes for a reason. And OVUAC is between .02 and .08 but when you're underage so not really. I said drunk driving.
May 28, 2011 4:40pm
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May 28, 2011 4:43 PM
friendfromlowry;784087 wrote:I think this seemed kind of steep. Did you know that when you're driving and texting, you're comparable to twice the legal limit? I heard that on NBC Nightly News back in 2009 I believe. Would you put the death penalty on the table for someone who commits vehicular homicide because they were texting while driving? Couldn't you technically link most (if not all) vehicular homicides to some type of distraction or "impairment"?
Nobody gets behind the wheel drunk with the intent to kill, but neither does the guy driving while texting, or talking on the phone, or dicking around the with radio, or eating Taco Bell. But the make that same mistake -- their full attention isn't on the road.
I get the point of it, though. If you do drive drunk and take someone's life, why should you get yours?

I don't think the death penalty is a fair conviction....I think you should stick these guys in a 3x3 or 4x4 cell and let them rot for the rest of their life. That would be suffering and remorse all rolled into one. Giving them the satisfaction of dying is short of their punishment. But then again, I don't believe in the after life of heaven and hell.
May 28, 2011 4:43pm
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May 28, 2011 4:44 PM
I Wear Pants;784091 wrote:No, just because you do something stupid doesn't mean you have to endorse that action. They're called mistakes for a reason. And OVUAC is between .02 and .08 but when you're underage so not really. I said drunk driving.

interesting view point. So you think dante stallworth was guilty?
May 28, 2011 4:44pm
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May 28, 2011 5:33 PM
DeyDurkie5;784094 wrote:I don't think the death penalty is a fair conviction....I think you should stick these guys in a 3x3 or 4x4 cell and let them rot for the rest of their life. That would be suffering and remorse all rolled into one. Giving them the satisfaction of dying is short of their punishment. But then again, I don't believe in the after life of heaven and hell.

I disagree with you, but I was never a big fan of avoiding the death penalty so some criminal could rot in jail for eternity for the satisfaction of the public. If someone commits a crime, what's important is that they're off the streets and out of society. With that being said, I just don't see the use in keeping them around and making them serve a jail sentence for life. To you or me, what's the difference between someone being executed or serving a life sentence without parole. I suppose at some point or another, evidence might surface proving that person innocent.
The whole premise is really sketchy and sensitive. I could think of some scenarios where the death penalty should be considered. If you commit a crime and you're fleeing the cops in some high speed chase, and in the process you hit someone and kill them, for example. But I have a hard time putting it and vehicular homicide as a result of drunk driving together. Then again, I've never lost someone to a drunk driver, so what basis can I speak on...
May 28, 2011 5:33pm
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May 28, 2011 8:22 PM
DeyDurkie5;784069 wrote:so you are a hypocrit?

An OVUAC is not an OVI, there is a distinct difference.
May 28, 2011 8:22pm
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May 28, 2011 8:34 PM
Pay enough money and you won't get charged with shit... Trust me. Very sad, but true.
May 28, 2011 8:34pm
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May 28, 2011 10:04 PM
DeyDurkie5;784097 wrote:interesting view point. So you think dante stallworth was guilty?
I don't know, did he get found guilty? He was the one that hit the guy in Florida right?
May 28, 2011 10:04pm
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May 28, 2011 11:37 PM
DeyDurkie5;784069 wrote:so you are a hypocrit?

Having done something and believing it to be wrong is not hypocrisy. If it was, every person alive would be a hypocrite (thus defeating the need for the term).
May 28, 2011 11:37pm
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May 29, 2011 12:18 AM
O-Trap;784407 wrote:Having done something and believing it to be wrong is not hypocrisy. If it was, every person alive would be a hypocrite (thus defeating the need for the term).

Well, I believe everyone alive is a hypocrit, so I guess count me in.
May 29, 2011 12:18am
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May 29, 2011 12:26 AM
DeyDurkie5;784420 wrote:Well, I believe everyone alive is a hypocrit, so I guess count me in.

So saying, "So your a hypocrit?" [sic] is on par with saying, "So you are a human?"
May 29, 2011 12:26am
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May 29, 2011 2:41 AM
my DD was very iniebrteated tonight
May 29, 2011 2:41am
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May 29, 2011 9:53 AM
How do I feel about drunk driving?....kind of a silly question. Is there someone in favor of it? It is one of many reckless behaviors that endanger others...running stop sign and redlights, speeding, texting while driving, and eating while driving.

My personal feelings are that the limits are too low, and the penalties for 1st time 'offenders' are too steep, saddling normally upstanding citizens and social drinkers with reputation ruining convictions. But certainly NOTsteep enough for willful, repeat offenders, who are way over the line.
May 29, 2011 9:53am
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May 29, 2011 10:28 AM
O-Trap;784426 wrote:So saying, "So your a hypocrit?" [sic] is on par with saying, "So you are a human?"

I would say 95% of people are hypocrites in some way
May 29, 2011 10:28am
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May 29, 2011 10:28 AM
I Wear Pants;784315 wrote:I don't know, did he get found guilty? He was the one that hit the guy in Florida right?

He was the guy who was going onto the highway exit ramp and hit some guy who walked out in front of him.
May 29, 2011 10:28am
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May 29, 2011 10:53 AM
DeyDurkie5;784479 wrote:He was the guy who was going onto the highway exit ramp and hit some guy who walked out in front of him.
Was he over the limit?

If so at a minimum he should be charged with involuntary manslaughter.
May 29, 2011 10:53am
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May 29, 2011 11:00 AM
Con_Alma;784484 wrote:Was he over the limit?

If so at a minimum he should be charged with involuntary manslaughter.

I can't remember, but imo he shouldn't be charged with anything. If someone walks into your car, while you are merging onto the highway, then you shouldn't have any blame/fault in the matter.
May 29, 2011 11:00am
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May 29, 2011 11:06 AM
We disagree on that. If he is over the legal limit his ability to drive defensively is reduced.

Do you know what ultimately happened with that situation?

If he wasn't over the limit he should not be charged.
May 29, 2011 11:06am