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Jul 21, 2011 7:37 PM
Probably no "Raiders will continue to run the worst franchise in pro sports history" clause in the new CBA.
Jul 21, 2011 7:37pm
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Jul 21, 2011 7:37 PM
The Hall of Fame game has been canceled.

EDIT: I'm about 10 minutes late. LOL
Jul 21, 2011 7:37pm
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Jul 21, 2011 7:38 PM
wildcats20;837107 wrote:No Hall of Fame Game.

Sucks for Canton.

That's gotta be huge business for Canton they missed out on...can they sue for damages lol I'm not at all familiar with legal issues I just thought I'd throw that out there
Jul 21, 2011 7:38pm
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Jul 21, 2011 8:25 PM
Be interesting to see if the players agree to this. Sounds like they feel that the owners acceptance has "backed them into a corner."
Jul 21, 2011 8:25pm
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Jul 21, 2011 8:54 PM
If the players blow this up and cause games to be missed, they'll be pariahs forever to the American people.
Jul 21, 2011 8:54pm
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Jul 21, 2011 9:24 PM
Players claiming the deal has hidden stuff in it, owners trying to ram shit through.
Jul 21, 2011 9:24pm
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Jul 21, 2011 9:37 PM
ts1227;837205 wrote:Players claiming the deal has hidden stuff in it, owners trying to ram **** through.

Sounds like a typical night out for CCrunner
Jul 21, 2011 9:37pm
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Jul 21, 2011 9:39 PM
BR1986FB;837149 wrote:Be interesting to see if the players agree to this. Sounds like they feel that the owners acceptance has "backed them into a corner."

But at certain points throughout the lockout, there were cards the players could've played to back the owners into a corner as well. The players will agree to the CBA it just isn't going to happen tonight and probably not tomorrow. The owners simply moved the pressure the players put on them, and placed it back on the players. There's no trust between the two sides. I have a hard time thinking the players don't know what's in this new CBA.
Jul 21, 2011 9:39pm
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Jul 21, 2011 10:00 PM
Is there even going to be a season this year?
Jul 21, 2011 10:00pm
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Jul 21, 2011 10:46 PM
Writerbuckeye;837171 wrote:If the players blow this up and cause games to be missed, they'll be pariahs forever to the American people.

I disagree.
Jul 21, 2011 10:46pm
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Jul 21, 2011 11:05 PM
Brilliant move by the owners. The players now look like shit to everyone and will continue to until they accept. This is getting ridiculous though.
Jul 21, 2011 11:05pm
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Jul 21, 2011 11:19 PM
Also, I think this proves DE Smith is a total moron, along with the other lawyer Kessler. There seems to have been no communication with many f the players and reps and whatever deal he thought he would talk them into obviously didn't happen. The dude's interviews make him sound like a bumbling idiot. Way to pick an awesome face of the players. Morons.
Jul 21, 2011 11:19pm
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Jul 22, 2011 5:56 AM
wildcats20;837107 wrote:No Hall of Fame Game.

Sucks for Canton.

On my way to work tonight, 1030pm, I seen news trucks in front of the HoF, and thought, O good, there must still be a game to happen. Dangit. Guess not. lol
Jul 22, 2011 5:56am
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Jul 22, 2011 8:18 AM
iclfan2;837300 wrote:Also, I think this proves DE Smith is a total moron, along with the other lawyer Kessler. There seems to have been no communication with many f the players and reps and whatever deal he thought he would talk them into obviously didn't happen. The dude's interviews make him sound like a bumbling idiot. Way to pick an awesome face of the players. Morons.

I'm glad I'm not the only one to think that lol. he sounds like a dumbass
Jul 22, 2011 8:18am
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Jul 22, 2011 8:33 AM
Crimson streak;837420 wrote:I'm glad I'm not the only one to think that lol. he sounds like a dumbass

No, Smith is a complete moron. I firmly believe that HE, solely, is the reason for this dragging out. Dude has an agenda and it's not in the best interest of the players, imo.
Jul 22, 2011 8:33am
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Jul 22, 2011 12:48 PM
BR1986FB;837427 wrote:No, Smith is a complete moron. I firmly believe that HE, solely, is the reason for this dragging out. Dude has an agenda and it's not in the best interest of the players, imo.

Do ya think he is going overboard in trying to look like he is firmly behind the players and against the owners because their last NFLPY dude, Upshaw, was seen by many as being too buddy with the owners.

PLus...he is a former trial lawyer. That right there makes him a tool.
Jul 22, 2011 12:48pm
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Jul 22, 2011 12:52 PM
Sounds like a potential hold up in this is that the players want an "opt out" clause from the agreement.
Jul 22, 2011 12:52pm
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Jul 22, 2011 12:59 PM
BR1986FB;837786 wrote:Sounds like a potential hold up in this is that the players want an "opt out" clause from the agreement.

wtf....either you have an agreement or you don't.
Jul 22, 2011 12:59pm
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Jul 22, 2011 2:06 PM
they want an opt out at the 7 year mark.

They will get it passed within the next few days. They just gotta put on a front right now and find stuff wrong with it because the owners were unanimous in the vote, and they wanna look 'soft' in accepting the first offer the owners approve. They probably think that if all the owners agree then there HAS to be something wrong with it.
Jul 22, 2011 2:06pm
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Jul 22, 2011 2:26 PM
I find it humerous when players say things like we don't believe the team is losing money, etc. These athletes are for the most part,complety stupid when it comes to educated things, especially financial statements. This whole opt out after 7 years issue is ridiculous. I have been on the wire throughout this, however slightly favoring the owners, but now I am in full owner support as the NFLPA is a joke of an organization to begin with, and then picked Smith to be their talking head. The thing needs to get passed soon to play, the owners have gave in to many demands, sign the dang contract.
Jul 22, 2011 2:26pm
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Jul 22, 2011 2:32 PM
iclfan2;837864 wrote:I find it humerous when players say things like we don't believe the team is losing money, etc. These athletes are for the most part,complety stupid when it comes to educated things, especially financial statements. This whole opt out after 7 years issue is ridiculous. I have been on the wire throughout this, however slightly favoring the owners, but now I am in full owner support as the NFLPA is a joke of an organization to begin with, and then picked Smith to be their talking head. The thing needs to get passed soon to play, the owners have gave in to many demands, sign the dang contract.

I typically side with owners, and this case I do as well. You can always count on players to say some very stupid stuff, and they have!
Jul 22, 2011 2:32pm
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thavoice

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Jul 22, 2011 3:07 PM
WIth no 2 a day practices I wonder how that will affect the fan experience at training camps. Usually one was open, and the other closed. I assume theyw ill have an extra long practice and then make one park private or whatever?
Jul 22, 2011 3:07pm
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Jul 22, 2011 3:10 PM
SportsAndLady;837120 wrote:That's gotta be huge business for Canton they missed out on...can they sue for damages lol I'm not at all familiar with legal issues I just thought I'd throw that out there

I too would like to know this. Can the city of Canton sue?
Jul 22, 2011 3:10pm
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Jul 22, 2011 3:13 PM
iclfan2;837864 wrote:I find it humerous when players say things like we don't believe the team is losing money, etc. These athletes are for the most part,complety stupid when it comes to educated things, especially financial statements.

People who are extremely intelligent when it comes to things like that, have expressed(and he even proven) those same doubts. It's not exactly a surprise that owners are fudging the numbers. Even if it weren't a lockout year, it helps in relation to tax purposes.
Jul 22, 2011 3:13pm