Commander of Awesome
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May 18, 2011 10:31am
september63;772692 wrote:Post # 164, and I quickly replied on post # 165.
Oh videos dont post at work, so I had/have no idea what is posted there.
karen lotz
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May 18, 2011 10:47am
GOONx19;772680 wrote:Kanter plays more like Tim Duncan than any player in the last 10 years. With a little more range.
lol.
The Boss
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May 18, 2011 10:51am
karen lotz;772759 wrote:lol.
People need to stop assuming that prospect comparisons mean they're going to turn into that player. You compare how a guy plays to the style that another guy in the league plays--and the stars are in the forefront of everyones mind. I don't believe he said he's going to be the next Tim Duncan, just that he plays that style. In other words, a fundamentally sound, well rounded big man. And lets be honest, how many of those have come into the league since Duncan?
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september63
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May 18, 2011 10:58am
Commander of Awesome;772737 wrote:Oh videos dont post at work, so I had/have no idea what is posted there.
He said he reminded him of a less athletic BJ Mullins the way he moves and can shoot the ball. I said a less athletic BJ Mullins? That isnt anyone I would want, nor does anyone else in the NBA.
lhslep134
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May 18, 2011 11:17am
The Boss;772767 wrote:People need to stop assuming that prospect comparisons mean they're going to turn into that player. You compare how a guy plays to the style that another guy in the league plays--and the stars are in the forefront of everyones mind. I don't believe he said he's going to be the next Tim Duncan, just that he plays that style. In other words, a fundamentally sound, well rounded big man. And lets be honest, how many of those have come into the league since Duncan?
Kind of like how Kyrie Irving compares to Chris Paul. If Irving turns out to be 85% the player Paul is I'll be extremely happy.
The Boss
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May 18, 2011 11:18am
lhslep134;772799 wrote:Kind of like how Kyrie Irving compares to Chris Paul. If Irving turns out to be 85% the player Paul is I'll be extremely happy.
Exactly. It's just a way to compare someones abilities to someone that most people can relate to. It doesn't mean they're going to be as good or better than that player--they just play the game the same way and have the same skill set. You can have the same skill set as Duncan and be a 2 to his 10 on a scale of how well you've honed those skills.
karen lotz
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May 18, 2011 11:22am
He did have a nice array of dunks against air. Very similar to arguably the top PF in NBA history.
Hb31187
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May 18, 2011 11:25am
karen lotz;772805 wrote:He did have a nice array of dunks against air. Very similar to arguably the top PF in NBA history.
Karl Malone? lol jk
SportsAndLady
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May 18, 2011 11:28am
Kanter did dominate in an AAU game playing against Sullinger...Sully had good numbers as well, but I think Kanter put up like 30 and 10. I like Kanter, especially his turkishness.
Ty Webb
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May 18, 2011 12:17pm
Huge,Huge mistake is the Cavs take Irving No.1
I would much rather have Kemba Walker
Gilbert will set the franchise back even further if he takes Kyrie Irving
I would much rather have Kemba Walker
Gilbert will set the franchise back even further if he takes Kyrie Irving
The Boss
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May 18, 2011 12:18pm
Ty Webb;772860 wrote:Huge,Huge mistake is the Cavs take Irving No.1
I would much rather have Kemba Walker
Gilbert will set the franchise back even further if he takes Kyrie Irving
Well you're one of the only people who thinks that, so I think you better offer an explanation.
Commander of Awesome
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May 18, 2011 12:22pm
The Boss;772864 wrote:Well you're one of the only people who thinks that, so I think you better offer an explanation.
Its Gibby, you really want an explanation from him? Might as well ask him to explain Tebow or argue with you about LBJ. Its useless.
Ty Webb
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May 18, 2011 12:28pm
Irving has been injury prone going back to HS...
He only played a month of his only season in College
Meanwhile,Kemba Walker was on the court pretty much every night and was considered by many the best player in College Basketball
If the Cavs take Irving,it will blow up in there faces just like the Oden pick did to Portland
He only played a month of his only season in College
Meanwhile,Kemba Walker was on the court pretty much every night and was considered by many the best player in College Basketball
If the Cavs take Irving,it will blow up in there faces just like the Oden pick did to Portland
The Boss
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May 18, 2011 12:30pm
Ty Webb;772884 wrote:Irving has been injury prone going back to HS...
He only played a month of his only season in College
Meanwhile,Kemba Walker was on the court pretty much every night and was considered by many the best player in College Basketball
If the Cavs take Irving,it will blow up in there faces just like the Oden pick did to Portland
He was only considered the best after Irving went down with injury. And LOL @ your Oden comparison. He doesn't have health issues like Oden, not even close. Most have said the toe is no big deal. Oden has legitimate joint problems, likely because he grew too fast. I'll take the word of doctors who have looked at the kid and say he's good to go.
Commander of Awesome
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May 18, 2011 12:31pm
Ty Webb;772884 wrote:Irving has been injury prone going back to HS...
He only played a month of his only season in College
Meanwhile,Kemba Walker was on the court pretty much every night and was considered by many the best player in College Basketball
If the Cavs take Irving,it will blow up in there faces just like the Oden pick did to Portland
Lol at taking Walker with the #1 pick, THAT would blow up in their face when into the second season he's a bench player playing 20 min a night because he gets abused on the def side of the ball.
Laley23
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May 18, 2011 12:36pm
Irving had injury problems in HS????
Ill also take the word of his HS coach, Bobby Hurley, who said (when Irving was a SO in HS) that "Kyrie will be the best guard to ever come out of New Jersey. In the end, it wont be close."
Now go back and think of the players who have come out of New Jersey. Thats some damn high praise, and thus far, 3 years later, Kyrie hasnt fallen short of that praise.
Ill also take the word of his HS coach, Bobby Hurley, who said (when Irving was a SO in HS) that "Kyrie will be the best guard to ever come out of New Jersey. In the end, it wont be close."
Now go back and think of the players who have come out of New Jersey. Thats some damn high praise, and thus far, 3 years later, Kyrie hasnt fallen short of that praise.
Ty Webb
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May 18, 2011 12:37pm
Did I say take Kemba with the first pick? No
My thinking was they should take Derrick Willams No.1 then take Kemba No.4
My thinking was they should take Derrick Willams No.1 then take Kemba No.4
Ty Webb
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May 18, 2011 12:39pm
The Boss;772887 wrote:He was only considered the best after Irving went down with injury. And LOL @ your Oden comparison. He doesn't have health issues like Oden, not even close. Most have said the toe is no big deal. Oden has legitimate joint problems, likely because he grew too fast. I'll take the word of doctors who have looked at the kid and say he's good to go.
Doctors also said Oden was good to go too...and we all see how that has worked out so far
Automatik
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May 18, 2011 12:41pm
Ty Webb;772901 wrote:Doctors also said Oden was good to go too...and we all see how that has worked out so far
Umm Oden had to have fucking micro fracture surgery then broke his kneecap. How does that compare to Irving, a POINT GUARD's, toe injury?
SportsAndLady
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May 18, 2011 12:44pm
SMH @ fucking gibby
Skyhook79
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May 18, 2011 12:45pm
Laley23;772894 wrote:Irving had injury problems in HS????
Ill also take the word of his HS coach, Bobby Hurley, who said (when Irving was a SO in HS) that "Kyrie will be the best guard to ever come out of New Jersey. In the end, it wont be close."
Now go back and think of the players who have come out of New Jersey. Thats some damn high praise, and thus far, 3 years later, Kyrie hasnt fallen short of that praise.
Yeah and Dwayne "Pearl" Washington was called the next Earl Monroe by his HS Coach...Point? HS Coaches are not always very good at predictions.
Laley23
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May 18, 2011 12:47pm
Skyhook79;772913 wrote:Yeah and Dwayne "Pearl" Washington was called the next Earl Monroe by his HS Coach...Point? HS Coaches are not always very good at predictions.
They carry a bit of weight when the coach is considered the best PG out of NJ (with apologies to Mr. Barry).
GOONx19
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May 18, 2011 12:56pm
The Boss;772767 wrote:People need to stop assuming that prospect comparisons mean they're going to turn into that player. You compare how a guy plays to the style that another guy in the league plays--and the stars are in the forefront of everyones mind. I don't believe he said he's going to be the next Tim Duncan, just that he plays that style. In other words, a fundamentally sound, well rounded big man. And lets be honest, how many of those have come into the league since Duncan?
This. Thank you.
The Boss
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May 18, 2011 1:11pm
Ty Webb;772901 wrote:Doctors also said Oden was good to go too...and we all see how that has worked out so far
Oden is 7 foot tall. He has an entirely different list of health problems and potential health problems than any point guard would have. Oden has been unfortunate, freak injuries, things doctors can't predict. But I'll guarantee you even before his injuries that doctors would have told teams to be more worried about him physically than a PG. It's not as if big men haven't been injury prone in the past, far more than guards.
SportsAndLady
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May 18, 2011 1:13pm
I thought I heard something about Kyrie's injury being the first time he's had to deal with a serious injury; and it was a freak injury at that.