jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
May 17, 2011 9:24pm
Needs to work on scoring away from the bucket. But he is an athletic freakIMO, I'm a little worried about Derrick Williams. He's a tweener in my eyes. Not really a SF, not really a PF...
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 17, 2011 9:25pm
jordo212000;772052 wrote:Needs to work on scoring away from the bucket. But he is an athletic freak
No question... I think he will be a good player, but I don't think he'll be elite like Irving.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
May 17, 2011 9:30pm
hoops23;772053 wrote:No question... I think he will be a good player, but I don't think he'll be elite like Irving.
I agree. Williams doesnt have the speed or the jumper to play the 3. Hes not quite big enough to play the 4 either. I usually dont like the idea of going after a Euro big guy but I would be OK with Kanter or Valanciunas
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 17, 2011 9:31pm
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
May 17, 2011 9:32pm
Miinesota will take whoever the Cavs don't so the best case scenarios depending on who Cavs take at 1 would look like this because you want a PG and a F:
Cavs - Irving
Wolves - Williams
Jazz - Knight
Cavs - Kanter
or
Cavs - Williams
Wolves - Irving
Jazz - Kanter
Cavs - Knight
Cavs - Irving
Wolves - Williams
Jazz - Knight
Cavs - Kanter
or
Cavs - Williams
Wolves - Irving
Jazz - Kanter
Cavs - Knight
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
May 17, 2011 9:33pm
If we go PG and both Williams and Kanter come off the board, that would fucking blow.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
May 17, 2011 9:33pm
I would really like to see Chris Singleton drop to the 2nd round. Hes not a great shooter but the guy is tough as nails on defense.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 17, 2011 9:34pm
wes_mantooth;772039 wrote:Maybe, but there isn't shit in this draft other than Williams and Kyrie.
Honestly, any other year and Williams isn't a top 5 pick.
I disagree. I think Williams is a top 5 talent. With that said, if the Cavs go with Irving, Williams will be taken before #4.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 17, 2011 9:36pm
So I guess our #1 pick was via the Clippers trade? LMAO.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
May 17, 2011 9:36pm
slingshot4ever;772074 wrote:If we go PG and both Williams and Kanter come off the board, that would fucking blow.
I think that will probably happen. Jazz need a PG, maybe they take Knight
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 17, 2011 9:36pm
hoops23;772083 wrote:So I guess our #1 pick was via the Clippers trade? LMAO.
lol I saw that too. 2.8% chance I think it was
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
May 17, 2011 9:37pm
hoops23;772083 wrote:So I guess our #1 pick was via the Clippers trade? LMAO.
We got Baron Davis and the #1 pick for Mo
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 17, 2011 9:37pm
I wouldn't underestimate the Cavs trying to move up with that #4 pick... I mean, KAAAAAAHAHHHHHHHNNNNNNN is picking right behind us.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
May 17, 2011 9:38pm
KR1245;772088 wrote:We got Baron Davis and the #1 pick for Mo
And Jamario.
I'm sure Bill Simmons is gonna love that, he's always ripping the Clips. I have to imagine regardless of BDiddy's contract that most all teams would rather have the #1 overall and BDiddy over Mo Williams and Jamario.
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
May 17, 2011 9:38pm
hoops23;772083 wrote:So I guess our #1 pick was via the Clippers trade? LMAO.
That is correct, someone out in LA is getting fired for not protecting a top 3 pick as we speak...
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
May 17, 2011 9:39pm
KR1245;772084 wrote:I think that will probably happen. Jazz need a PG, maybe they take Knight
That's what I am hoping.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
May 17, 2011 9:39pm
Hb31187;772023 wrote:Nobodys worried about Kanter being like every other European Big man that was suppposed to come in and be good and flopped?
Plenty of Euro big men have succeeded too. Both Gasols, Dirk, Z, Bargnani. Even guys like Casspi, Gortat, Pachulia, etc. have had at least some level of success. And I'm sure there are others I'm forgetting too.
Guys like Darko and Tskitizvili are remembered more frequently, but it isn't like every Euro/international (if you want to go that route and throw in Bogut, Nene, etc.) busts.
I'm definitely less worried about him than most of the rest of the class that I don't think anybody is really expecting to ever make a huge impact.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
May 17, 2011 9:40pm
I like Thompson from Texas also at 4. I think he has tremendous upside and could be the best player in this draft
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
May 17, 2011 9:40pm
Crimson streak;772105 wrote:I like Thompson from Texas also at 4. I think he has tremendous upside and could be the best player in this draft
Me too!
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 17, 2011 9:42pm
People seem to forget how good Irving was before injuring his toe. He was heads and shoulders the best player in college bball. He displayed everything you want out of a NBA PG..
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
May 17, 2011 9:46pm
I don't like Thompson at all. He seems like Brandan Wright part 2 to me.
I really liked Wright coming out. Not making that mistake again.
I really liked Wright coming out. Not making that mistake again.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 17, 2011 9:48pm
KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!
The Boss
Posts: 541
May 17, 2011 9:48pm
Yeah, if you get Kanter at 4 and even if he ends up just being Z, that's pretty solid. Better than a bust. Z gave that franchise a lot of good years.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 17, 2011 9:49pm
The Boss;772141 wrote:Yeah, if you get Kanter at 4 and even if he ends up just being Z, that's pretty solid. Better than a bust. Z gave that franchise a lot of good years.
Without the injuries, Z's game is more than just being a jump shooter too. He had a pretty solid post up game, but I think it would have been far better if not for all the years lost.
The Boss
Posts: 541
May 17, 2011 9:55pm
That certainly didn't help his case. He was a good solid center, especially for his price. You need players like that when you're building something.