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queencitybuckeye

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May 20, 2011 1:34 PM
Bigdogg;774916 wrote:We are talking about high school sports here. Some schools both public and private think that dumping valuable resources into their extracurricular activities is not only wrong but unwise. Their number one priority is academic, not hiring some hotshot coach that teaches PE. Hey with an unlimited budget any school could create a sporting juggernaut if that's what they wanted to be known for. I am no marking expert but it seems to me that private schools have a huge incentive to excel in either academic or sports or both. This is what attracts parents to send their kids there. It really depends on where your priorities are at.

The Mission of the OHSAA is to create a fair playing field.

Our school is a sports AND academic power (with relatively low taxes). Your "either/or" scenario is simply not true in many if not most cases. Money and success have a lot lower coefficient of correlation than do success and expectation of excellence. Harder to achieve than stomping one's feet and crying about fairness, but a far better lesson for our kids, IMO.
May 20, 2011 1:34pm
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genghis dong

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May 20, 2011 5:09 PM
skank;774930 wrote:You know what I'm talking about, it's ok if you don't want to talk about it.

Yeah, you said I live in a trailer, but you also said that parochial schools don't recruit....So that means I must live in a mansion.

Oh I get it now. A molestation joke. Did a preist molest you is that why you have so much hate for the parochial schools? Or maybe he didn't and that's why you hate them?
May 20, 2011 5:09pm
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skank

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May 20, 2011 7:02 PM
genghis dong;775195 wrote:Oh I get it now. A molestation joke. Did a preist molest you is that why you have so much hate for the parochial schools? Or maybe he didn't and that's why you hate them?

Nope, I fall into that 25% catagory.
May 20, 2011 7:02pm
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May 20, 2011 8:06 PM
skank;775266 wrote:Nope, I fall into that 25% catagory.

I'm far from the grammar police. But don't rip on Rocket if you misspell words yourself. Just saying...
May 20, 2011 8:06pm
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skank

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May 20, 2011 8:29 PM
sherm03;775314 wrote:I'm far from the grammar police. But don't rip on Rocket if you misspell words yourself. Just saying...

Yeah, see, the only difference is, I never claimed to be an English Major.
May 20, 2011 8:29pm
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May 20, 2011 8:38 PM
skank;775334 wrote:Yeah, see, the only difference is, I never claimed to be an English Major.

Pretty sure he was being facetious.
May 20, 2011 8:38pm
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Viking

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May 21, 2011 4:01 PM
sherm03;775338 wrote:Pretty sure he was being facetious.

Skank is an expert on feces!

The vote was closer than many experts thought. IMHO, the OHSAA will put forth another proposal that perhaps doesn't include the tradition factor, but does add a division in football. That will be the last attempt to stave off separate playoffs for private and public schools. The OHSAA doesn't want separation, but there will be a huge push for it. Remember, administartors vote rather than coaches. That is why the recent vote was closer than many thought. I thought that it would pass by less than 50 votes.
May 21, 2011 4:01pm
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May 21, 2011 4:22 PM
Viking;775845 wrote:Skank is an expert on feces!

The vote was closer than many experts thought. IMHO, the OHSAA will put forth another proposal that perhaps doesn't include the tradition factor, but does add a division in football. That will be the last attempt to stave off separate playoffs for private and public schools. The OHSAA doesn't want separation, but there will be a huge push for it. Remember, administartors vote rather than coaches. That is why the recent vote was closer than many thought. I thought that it would pass by less than 50 votes.
No...you thought it would pass. Then tried to save face and say it wouldn't pass. Then changed again and said it would pass again.

Once again, you have zero credibility on the issue. So don't be offended when nobody takes you seriously.
May 21, 2011 4:22pm
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Rocket08

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May 21, 2011 5:39 PM
Zero credibility

Zero chance of separate playoffs/ EVER

The committee overreached, Based on the vote, a simple multiplier would have worked IMO

Bottom line, some are unhappy with the current system. They are obviously a very vocal minority

Ohio still has the best playoff system in the country!! In spite of what some chronic complainers say, the majority agrees
May 21, 2011 5:39pm
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Viking

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May 21, 2011 5:51 PM
sherm03;775860 wrote:No...you thought it would pass. Then tried to save face and say it wouldn't pass. Then changed again and said it would pass again.

Once again, you have zero credibility on the issue. So don't be offended when nobody takes you seriously.

I know the inside scoop. It almost passed. The private schools are on the ropes.
May 21, 2011 5:51pm
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May 21, 2011 7:38 PM
Viking;775954 wrote:I know the inside scoop. It almost passed. The private schools are on the ropes.

Dude. Just stop. :rolleyes:
May 21, 2011 7:38pm
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Rocket08

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May 21, 2011 8:32 PM
Viking;775954 wrote:I know the inside scoop. It almost passed. The private schools are on the ropes.

Embrace the change

Whatever

VIKING = ZERO CREDIBILITY
May 21, 2011 8:32pm
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May 21, 2011 9:25 PM
Viking;775845 wrote:Skank is an expert on feces!
The vote was closer than many experts thought. IMHO, the OHSAA will put forth another proposal that perhaps doesn't include the tradition factor, but does add a division in football. That will be the last attempt to stave off separate playoffs for private and public schools. The OHSAA doesn't want separation, but there will be a huge push for it. Remember, administartors vote rather than coaches. That is why the recent vote was closer than many thought. I thought that it would pass by less than 50 votes.

Not quite an expert, I only met your mother once. Well, maybe a half dozen times.

Listen, you come off as more "out of the loop" than the parochial 7. QUIT acting like you're in the know, and admit that the crap you have been spewing for the last 8 month's or so has been just that....CRAP.
May 21, 2011 9:25pm
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May 21, 2011 9:27 PM
Rocket08;775934 wrote:Zero credibility

Zero chance of separate playoffs/ EVER

The committee overreached, Based on the vote, a simple multiplier would have worked IMO

Bottom line, some are unhappy with the current system. They are obviously a very vocal minority

Ohio still has the best playoff system in the country!! In spite of what some chronic complainers say, the majority agrees

Sure they do....If you're a parochial school backer.

They WOULD, if the rules for public and parochial were at least SOMEWHAT even, but nah....NAH.
May 21, 2011 9:27pm
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May 21, 2011 9:29 PM
Viking;775954 wrote:I know the inside scoop. It almost passed. The private schools are on the ropes.

Donald Trump? The only way the privates are...."on the ropes", is if there's a recruiting bus....and the bus is named...."on the ropes".
May 21, 2011 9:29pm
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May 21, 2011 9:30 PM
Hahahaha what a joke. Viking you continue to make a blatant fool of yourself. Embrace that!
May 21, 2011 9:30pm
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May 21, 2011 9:32 PM
Viking;775954 wrote:I know the inside scoop. It almost passed. The private schools are on the ropes.

Why not take some of that impressive knowledge, and use it to somehow help Akron North win a game. I know it's a pretty tough task, but You can do it. Oh wait....Your a Buchtel fan now aren't you?
May 21, 2011 9:32pm
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Al Bundy

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May 21, 2011 11:15 PM
skank;776107 wrote:Sure they do....If you're a parochial school backer.

They WOULD, if the rules for public and parochial were at least SOMEWHAT even, but nah....NAH.

Which rule(s) give any advantage to private schools?
May 21, 2011 11:15pm
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Viking

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May 21, 2011 11:17 PM
rmolin73;776109 wrote:Hahahaha what a joke. Viking you continue to make a blatant fool of yourself. Embrace that!

It almost passed. That is a fact. Too many schools felt that the proposal was too weak. Either a stronger version will pass or there will be separate playoffs.
May 21, 2011 11:17pm
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May 21, 2011 11:59 PM
You need to give it up no one takes you serious. Most felt that the proosal was too strong with the tradition factor punishing succesful programs. If there was a simple multiplier it would have passed. There won't be seperate playoffs ever in Ohio thats something you can "embrace".
May 21, 2011 11:59pm
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genghis dong

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May 22, 2011 3:33 AM
skank;776104 wrote:Not quite an expert, I only met your mother once. Well, maybe a half dozen times.

Listen, you come off as more "out of the loop" than the parochial 7. QUIT acting like you're in the know, and admit that the crap you have been spewing for the last 8 month's or so has been just that....CRAP.

Aren't you the guy crying foul about name calling all the time? I guess talking about a guys mom is ok?
May 22, 2011 3:33am
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May 22, 2011 8:17 AM
skank;776107 wrote:Sure they do....If you're a parochial school backer.

They WOULD, if the rules for public and parochial were at least SOMEWHAT even, but nah....NAH.
Ohio's tournament is widely considered one of, if not the best playoff system in in the country. Read a little...it might do you some good.
May 22, 2011 8:17am
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May 22, 2011 10:49 AM
genghis dong;776258 wrote:Aren't you the guy crying foul about name calling all the time? I guess talking about a guys mom is ok?

You're right dong, had a few beers last night and figured, what the hell, the parochial 7 get away with it.
May 22, 2011 10:49am
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May 22, 2011 10:52 AM
fish82;776278 wrote:Ohio's tournament is widely considered one of, if not the best playoff system in in the country. Read a little...it might do you some good.

Agreed, the tournament is one of the best, but, if you included the Green Bay Packers, into the tournament, they would obviously roll everybody, the tournament would still be set up good, but....You see where I'm going here?
May 22, 2011 10:52am
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Rocket08

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May 22, 2011 3:17 PM
Ya, you're frustrated

Your team has never won a championship, and you're jealous You can't admit someone's better than you, even though it's pretty obvious
May 22, 2011 3:17pm