Fab4Runner;703081 wrote:I think I'll wait for more proof than the word of an anonymous source. Anyone remember that whole innocent until proven guilty thing? Sure, were not in a court of law, but I see no reason to believe this story until there's actual solid proof. Ohio State went through an NCAA investigation and was punished for the rules they broke. To me that's reason enough to stand behind Tressel and the rest of the organization until evidence suggesting otherwise comes out.

sleeper;702546 wrote:It's Yahoo.

Anyone can post rumors.

Fidmeister;702921 wrote:If this is true, it's the definition of a lack of institutional control. .

* The NCAA rules applicable to each operation are readily available to those persons involved in that operation.
* Appropriate forms are provided to persons involved in specific operations to ensure that they will properly follow NCAA rules.
* A procedure is established for timely communication among various university offices regarding determinations that affect compliance with NCAA rules.
* Meaningful compliance education programs are provided for personnel engaged in athletically related operations.
* Informational and educational programs are established to inform athletics boosters of the limitations on their activities under NCAA rules and of the penalties that can arise if they are responsible for rule violations.
* Informational and educational programs are established for student-athletes regarding the rules that they must follow
* An internal monitoring system is in place to ensure compliance with NCAA rules.
* An external audit of athletics compliance is undertaken at reasonable intervals.
* The chief executive officer and other senior administrators make clear that they demand compliance with NCAA rules and that they will not tolerate those who deliberately violate the rules or do so through gross negligence.
* The institution and its staff members have a long history of self-detecting, self-reporting and self-investigating all potential violations.

rock_knutne;703093 wrote:That doesn't work on OC........go see Ben Roethlisberger!

thedynasty1998;703085 wrote:
A name that no one has probably heard, that was involved was Jermil Martin. The RB who transferred to Ashland University, but was only on campus for about a week. .

lhslep134;703104 wrote:My god you're an idiot.


http://www.wralsportsfan.com/unc/story/8442723/

THAT is the definition of lack of institutional control. It even includes this guideline to avoid being hit with LOIC.



OSU does each and every one of those.

Now please, stop talking before you look even more stupid.

lhslep134;703111 wrote:If he was only on campus for a week, how'd he manage to play in 3 games in 2009?

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about, but since it's you, it's not surprising.

thedynasty1998;703114 wrote:Sorry, on campus at Ashland.

I know more about what's going on than you.

thedynasty1998;703113 wrote:but it's things like this that define a lack of institutional control.

lhslep134;703123 wrote:So either A. you got proven to look like an idiot when I mentioned how Martin played in 3 games in 2009 or B. you're bringing up a completely irrelevant fact that he was on Ashland's campus for a week which has absolutely no bearing on this thread.

Either way it was a candidate for IPOTW.

lhslep134;703129 wrote:You're just as stupid as the original poster who brought up LOIC. I just fucking posted an entire link that shows you all the things you need to not have to be hit with LOIC and even if OSU doesn't have all of them (which I really think they do considering it's the largest intercollegiate athletic program in the country) they have enough of them to not be ANYWHERE CLOSE to LOIC.

Dumbass.

bases_loaded;703034 wrote:Part of some plea in the FBI investigation?

krambman;703154 wrote:A plea for what? There was nothing illegal that went on between the tattoo parlor and the Buckeye players. It was perfectly legal for them to buy the items they purchased and to give discounted tattoos, it was only against NCAA rules. And how would being an anonymous source in a Yahoo! Sports news story that alleges more NCAA violations (but again, still no illegal activity) do anything to reduce anyone's sentence in a federal investigation? I've heard some dumb things on this site before, but this one may take the cake.

thedynasty1998;703139 wrote:I'm not saying it is a LOIC, but to me, it just seems like such a broad term that a lot of different things could fall under that umbrella.

krambman;703154 wrote: I've heard some dumb things on this site before, but this one may take the cake.

Fab1b;703163 wrote:All of this is speculation until that source is identified. All of you that claim sources, or inside info yourself are as delusional as those coming up with their own theories. None of us know what happened and until the truth comes out we will have to wait and see. No doubt between now and that time OSU will receive a bashing in the media!!

Maurice Clarett, Troy Smith and Terrelle Pryor, the most visible players in the 10-year Tressel regime, have all been found guilty of taking illegal benefits. That much is indisputable.....

Some of the details are hazy in the story, and the only source is unnamed. If true, however, this is a major violation that calls into question OSU's institutional control of its flagship athletic program.....

The scandal was the third shoe to drop in the Tressel era......

There was even something of a dress rehearsal for the Clarett case in the 1990s, when Tressel was winning four national championships in the old Division I-AA as the coach at Youngstown State. Penguins quarterback Ray Isaac was the model for much of the Clarett case, as far as illegal benefits went. He was charged with taking money from a personal sugar daddy and enjoying the use of free cars. YSU years later admitted to lack of institutional oversight and accepted minor penalties.

lhslep134;703183 wrote:Dynasty you really don't get it. LOIC has nothing to do with Tressel.

I want you to run through the checklist I posted and tell me the things you don't think OSU does that would make them a target of LOIC.

lhslep134;703123 wrote:So either A. you got proven to look like an idiot when I mentioned how Martin played in 3 games in 2009 or B. you're bringing up a completely irrelevant fact that he was on Ashland's campus for a week which has absolutely no bearing on this thread.

Either way it was a candidate for IPOTW.

Ohio St. AD Gene Smith will not be at March Madness TV presentation in NYC this AM. Told he has been called back to campus.

krambman;703208 wrote:@darrenrovell



The fact that it's now almost 11:00am and the school hasn't said anything or even schedule a press conference yet leads me to think that this is going to be bad. If this is a fireable offense and if Tressel is going to lose his job over it then the school will want to do it all at once like they did with Jim O'Brian, and not come out and confirm the story, then fire him a few days later. Obviously terminating someone takes some time with a big contract like Tressel's.

krambman;703208 wrote:@darrenrovell

thedynasty1998;703212 wrote:There is no way Tressel is fired, unless there are many more layers to this story.

Very interesting that Smith won't be in NYC, however.