ytownfootball;708229 wrote: God knows he gets a shit ton of email, think it's possible he forgot? Maybe, he is friggin human after all. Oversight is as plausible a reason as any of you willing to hang him from the rafters in effigy have suggested. As a follower of J. Tressel and in light of the enormous pluses he's brought to the University I'm more than willing to hold off on bearing a pitch fork. If some of you don't like it too fucking bad.

sherm03;708231 wrote:It's not likely that Tressel just "forgot" about the emails. He received the first two emails in April. Both times, Cicero initiated the email exchange. In June, Tressel initiated an email exchange asking Cicero if there were any more names. So to say he got the info...and then forgot about it doesn't hold water because he sure as hell remembered 2 months later or else he would not have initiated another exchange with Cicero.

So saying that he's human and just "forgot" is not a good enough excuse for me. He deliberately didn't do anything about it (or did and is now covering for his boss).

ytownfootball;708234 wrote:That's fine sherm, I don't believe for a fucking minute that the exchange between the two was intended for some kind of damn conspiracy to cover up shit, lol, I just don't buy it. OSU reports every damn thing under the sun to remain as compliant as possible, what would have changed in this instance? Other than a two week window where confidentiality wasn't an issue, and action wasn't taken how can you derive your conclusion?

ytownfootball;708229 wrote:Where is that fucking manual anyway?

ytownfootball;708229 wrote:I don't give a shit what the final scenario entails, as long as there was no intent to deceive or gain an advantage...

KR1245;708291 wrote:Why do some people question whether or not Tressels job is safe? The man is not going to lose his job, nor should he. He will serve his 2 games (maybe 4 or 5 if the NCAA gets involved) and thats it.

Why do some people question whether or not Tressels job is safe? The man is not going to lose his job, nor should he. He will serve his 2 games (maybe 4 or 5 if the NCAA gets involved) and thats it.

sherm03;708293 wrote:I don't think that's the discussion. I think at one point it was...but now it's not IF he should lose his job, it's SHOULD he lose his job.

karen lotz;708313 wrote:You think the 2 games is sufficient?

Big Gain;708315 wrote:Well let's see...

Jim Delaney doesn't think he should.
Gordon Gee doesn't think he should.
Gene Smith doesn't think he should.
The NCAA doesn't think he should.

The only ones I've heard that thinks he should are inconsequential nobodies.

sherm03;708320 wrote:I'm sorry. I thought the purpose of a message board was to discuss things like this in regards to the sporting world. But since all of those guys think JT should not be fired...we should just quit talking about it. You hear that everyone?! Discussion is over because those guys have never made a mistake or done something that deserves to be questioned!

By the way, where did you get that the NCAA doesn't think he should be fired. I must have missed where they ruled on the issue or made any statement at all about it. Don't count your chickens...

sherm03;708231 wrote: So saying that he's human and just "forgot" is not a good enough excuse for me. He deliberately didn't do anything about it (or did and is now covering for his boss).

WebFire;708326 wrote:Did Delaney actually say that? I know Gee and Smith did of course. And the NCAA has yet to say what they think.

Big Gain;708315 wrote:Well let's see...

Jim Delaney doesn't think he should.
Gordon Gee doesn't think he should.
Gene Smith doesn't think he should.
The NCAA doesn't think he should.

The only ones I've heard that thinks he should are inconsequential nobodies.

ts1227;708362 wrote:Looks like some people are getting sensitive that their favorite squeaky clean program fucked up.

Those same people also ran
herbstreit out of town with their retardedness

ytownfootball;708229 wrote:Tressel in my eyes is still taking one for the team. No one asked him to do it.

I don't give a shit what the final scenario entails, as long as there was no intent to deceive or gain an advantage, the bottom line is that he has benefited this university and more importantly the athletes he's come in contact with immeasurably. I feel bad for the guy, he's in hot water because he does his level headed best to steer 100 idiots down the straight and narrow path, unfortunately, not everyone heeds his tutelage. Should he have set in motion an investigation during the 2 week time frame based on the email from a former walk on? Maybe, seems credible enough, but what would be your guidelines for doing such? Where is that fucking manual anyway?

God knows he gets a shit ton of email, think it's possible he forgot? Maybe, he is friggin human after all. Oversight is as plausible a reason as any of you willing to hang him from the rafters in effigy have suggested. As a follower of J. Tressel and in light of the enormous pluses he's brought to the University I'm more than willing to hold off on bearing a pitch fork. If some of you don't like it too fucking bad.

karen lotz;708277 wrote:No intent to deceive or gain an advantage? He said in an interview that he knew it was inevitable the players in question would be ruled ineligible. He deceived everyone so he could gain an advantage by keeping them on the field. Come on man.

lhslep134;708381 wrote:Anddddd that sums up my thoughts on the issue. Great post.

lhslep134;708385 wrote:None of the emails from April suggest any particular player. So no, he didn't fucking know in April who it was and who would be ineligible.

So quit bringing up a moot point, or actually, keep repeating it over and over and over again to satisfy your narrow mind.

karen lotz;708389 wrote:Again, you are both delusional if you believe even half of that post. You think he forgot about it? He responded 3 or 4 times? He said multiple times he would get right on it and asked for more information. Are you both choosing to ignore the fact that Tressel said that he knew the players would eventually be ruled ineligible, but played them anyway? Are you just choosing not to actually pay attention to any facts and already have your mind made up?