OneBuckeye;1181985 wrote:I finally started taking fish oil. I was holding out for the good stuff, but was always too cheap to buy it. Hard to tell if it will make a differnce for awhile. I'm most interested in how it with effect my cholesterol levels.

http://www.mainenaturalhealth.com/

My last check I was like 210 total with 55 HDL 10 months after primal. That was down from 220+ and 45 HDL before primal.

I've been using the AgeForce Omega 3/CoQ10 patches. Never found success with standard fish oil and although it has only been 10 days of it, I've felt better and have seemed to get a bit leaner while taking it. I'm already pretty lean but I've noticed a difference. Basically, it's a patch (like a bandaid) that you put on an area where there are blood vessels and absorb the Omega 3. I was always hesitant of AgeForce products but had to try the Omega 3 patch that they just released.

If what they say is true about fish oil capsules being oxidized before leaving the shelves (which I believe), the sources being far from ideal (I also believe this is true as the market for the product has blown up) and the idea of not even being able to absorb even a quality brand, the "through the skin to bloodstream" delivery is a cool concept.

http://www.wakingtimes.com/2012/05/31/cancer-feeds-on-fructose-americas-1-source-of-calories/

Azubuike24;1184154 wrote:I've been using the AgeForce Omega 3/CoQ10 patches. Never found success with standard fish oil and although it has only been 10 days of it, I've felt better and have seemed to get a bit leaner while taking it. I'm already pretty lean but I've noticed a difference. Basically, it's a patch (like a bandaid) that you put on an area where there are blood vessels and absorb the Omega 3. I was always hesitant of AgeForce products but had to try the Omega 3 patch that they just released.

If what they say is true about fish oil capsules being oxidized before leaving the shelves (which I believe), the sources being far from ideal (I also believe this is true as the market for the product has blown up) and the idea of not even being able to absorb even a quality brand, the "through the skin to bloodstream" delivery is a cool concept.

The fish oil I linked is liquid and super concentrated. You would have to take 20+ pills to get the same serving. I think there is no question the pills are not ideal.

BR1986FB;1186426 wrote:http://www.wakingtimes.com/2012/05/31/cancer-feeds-on-fructose-americas-1-source-of-calories/

Good stuff.

I had ice cream (a large bowl) last night for the first time in forever. I ate so much sugar, I felt sick all night and still this morning. Yuck.

OneBuckeye;1186451 wrote:I had ice cream (a large bowl) last night for the first time in forever. I ate so much sugar, I felt sick all night and still this morning. Yuck.

You go a long time without eating that stuff and it shocks your system.

This is from a regular e-mail I get from Robb Wolf...

[h=4]Grassfed vs. Grain Fed - What's the difference and is it
a deal breaker?[/h]It’s time for the weekly trip to the grocery store and the purse
strings are a little tight this go round. You’re standing in the meat section
comparing prices: Grassfed Flank Steak - $9.99/lb, Feedlot Flank Steak -
$4.99/lb. Holy Cow!! That’s $5/lb difference – and considering you need four
pounds that’s $20. Ugh! What do you do and what’s the big deal?

The most
obvious differences between grass and grain fed meats are the animal’s diet and
living environment prior to butchering. The grassfed variety was most likely
raised on a pasture eating primarily grasses while the grain eaters are most
commonly feedlot cattle. From an ethics perspective grassfed is most often the
best choice. Now let’s look at the nutrition side of things.

Here’s a
comparison of grass vs. grain fed beef:

Ground Beef (100 Gram Serving)	Kcals	Fat (g)	Saturated Fat (g)	Omega-3 (g)	Protein (g)	Niacin (mg)
Grassfed	192	12.7	5.0	0.88	19.0	4.8
Grain fed - 85/15	215	15.0	5.9	0.05	18.6	4.6

The
obvious (USDA
Nutrition Database available) statistics may not seem all that
remarkable – but overall grassfed beef is higher in
long chain omega 3 fats and Conjugated Linoleic Acid (CLA), some
B-vitamins, carotinoids and trace minerals. Additionally, levels of trans and
saturated fats tend to be lower in grassfed meats. While not overwhelming,
these small nutrient variations add up quickly when the frequency and amounts
consumed are taken into consideration. But is grain fed meat a deal breaker if
you want to be paleo?

If grass fed meat isn’t in your budget that doesn’t
mean you should throw in the towel and head over to the tofu section! Do the
best that you can! Select the highest quality meat possible, (this does not mean
the hamburger that is sold in tubes at Wal-Mart). Watch for sales on grassfed
and/or high quality cuts of meat. If grain fed is your choice, select lean cuts
and lean ground meats. If possible buy your meat from a local rancher/farmer and
in quantity. This is often cheaper and you can see how the animals were raised –
not all grain fed cattle are a product of antibiotic pumping, dirty feeding,
corporate feedlots. Often the local farmers grow the crops that feed their
herds and take very good care of their animals. Again, do the best that you
can!

Lastly, consider your priorities. If you are buying a cup of coffee
at Starbucks every morning, eating out frequently, or spending your money on
movies, gaming, etc; and still insist that grassfed meat is too expensive, it
may be time for you to reconsider what’s really important. It’s your
Moo-ve!

[LEFT][/LEFT]

Amy Kubal is a Registered "Paleo"
Dietitian and the ring leader of Robb's RD consulting team. She works with a
wide range of clients from competitive athletes to those dealing with complex
health problems. Check out her bio and
consulting options, and her blog Fuel As
Rx to get your Paleo nutrition fix.

Great article. So true. Haven't eaten anything grain fed in probably 6 months. Going to keep it that way!

I only eat venison except on the occasional night out. Always get enough to last the year and then some. Just now breaking into this years harvest. Butcher them myself. Is that considered grain fed or still not as bad since it is so lean.

Mr Miyagi;1191002 wrote:I only eat venison except on the occasional night out. Always get enough to last the year and then some. Just now breaking into this years harvest. Butcher them myself. Is that considered grain fed or still not as bad since it is so lean.

I would think you're safe with wild game. I'm sure deer stumble across the occasional meal of corn but I find it hard to believe that it would be the main staple of their diet.

You're a lucky SOB. I haven't hunted since high school and I'd love to get ahold of some venison. Father used to hunt all over and we'd usually have elk, moose, caribou, etc.

Love eating elk steak.

[h=6]Pretty amazing how #Paleo is considered a fad diet, when in fact we ate this way for 2 million years. Processed food is new to our diet. I would say fake processed food is the fad diet, and it's driving chronic disease to wherever we export it on the planet.-John Myers[/h]

Mr Miyagi;1191076 wrote:Rove eating erk steak.

FIFY

BR1986FB;1191004 wrote:I would think you're safe with wild game. I'm sure deer stumble across the occasional meal of corn but I find it hard to believe that it would be the main staple of their diet.

They fatten up pretty good on grain in the fall, but eat mostly wood type foliage in the winter months and grass in the spring/summer.

I buy grass fed beef not really for the health benefits but to do my part in increasing demand for cows to be fed grass. I think it's gross that cows are fed corn based diets.

sleeper;1191626 wrote:I buy grass fed beef not really for the health benefits but to do my part in increasing demand for cows to be fed grass. I think it's gross that cows are fed corn based diets.

I'll have to rep you later...

I grew up on a farm, so I eat my family farm's beef for 90% of the beef I cook at home. It's mostly grass fed, but we do give them our own feed mix which includes minerals and corn. I don't typically like to get beef many other places because I am spoiled with my family's beef.

I can also get any deer that I want. Not too bad. I just wish I had more room (and a house) to keep this meat...

OSH;1191777 wrote:I grew up on a farm, so I eat my family farm's beef for 90% of the beef I cook at home. It's mostly grass fed, but we do give them our own feed mix which includes minerals and corn. I don't typically like to get beef many other places because I am spoiled with my family's beef.

I can also get any deer that I want. Not too bad. I just wish I had more room (and a house) to keep this meat...

From some of the readings I've read, as long as the beef is grass "finished" it should be more than acceptable...meaning it may have had some grains but as long as it is living off of grass for an extended period of time before slaughter you will get similar effects.

I guess my question last night should have read, What would be better, venison or grass fed beef?
If I shoot a deer in PA. where there are really no agricultural crops around,living on acorns and such I can really taste the difference between an Ohio deer. Which leads me to believe that deer from an agricultural area are probably ingesting a lot of grain during certain times, of the year, usually hunting season

I think you'd be fine with either. (assuming you're going with the PA deer)

1) Is there a study that shows that breakfast does NOT start your metabolism?
2) What is wrong with green beans?
3) Every time a click on this thread, the first thing I see is cleavage fat, I think I might try to bump to page 17 with the same pic. Lulz...

Sonofanump;1192906 wrote:1) Is there a study that shows that breakfast does NOT start your metabolism?
2) What is wrong with green beans?
3) Every time a click on this thread, the first thing I see is cleavage fat, I think I might try to bump to page 17 with the same pic. Lulz...

The idea that you have to "start" your metabolism is the joke.

MDA has a great series on fasting. Scroll down and there are links to the whole series.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/fasting-weight-loss/#axzz1x32vpLeC

a quote form the Q&A

[INDENT]Are you suggesting that it really is OK to skip breakfast?
[/INDENT]Yes, I am. While epidemiology suggests that breakfast skippers are fatter and less healthy, that’s a correlation, not necessarily causation. It could just as easily be explained by the fact that people are more likely to skip breakfast because they’re overweight and want to lose weight. Or maybe because skipping breakfast is widely regarded as an unhealthy activity (like eating red meat), those who are already healthy are more likely to eat breakfast. See how it works? To date, there has never been research conclusively showing that skipping breakfast causes the metabolism to “slow down” or the skipper to gain more weight. In fact, the bulk of the evidence suggests that meal frequency and timing have no effect on weight gain or health (and it might even be the opposite, as my fasting series suggests).


Read more: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/fasting-questions-answers/#ixzz1xCtSOEDH

This SlingShot is off the charts. Jumped my working weight in the bench press another 15 lbs for a set of 6. Could've probably done 10 but I don't go higher than 6 reps. I can't imagine the weights I'd be using if I actually had a spotter and liftoff out of the rack.