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Mar 2, 2011 7:45 PM
DeyDurkie5;697634 wrote:so basically you just gave me the easy, bullshit answer by quoting the bible. enjoy the dirt when you die skyhook, it will definitely be a letdown for you instead of "heaven"

Less so than yours should you be wrong.
Mar 2, 2011 7:45pm
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Mar 2, 2011 7:47 PM
O-Trap;697686 wrote:As I said, if he created the game, then why would it be a fraud, if that's the way it was set up?

It would suck; don't get me wrong.
If there's more rules to this game than "try to do your best and be a decent person" then my feelings start to align witht the song Bukowski by Modest Mouse.
If God takes life, he's an Indian giver
So tell me now why, you'll tell me never
Who would want to be
Who would want to be such a control freak?
Mar 2, 2011 7:47pm
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Mar 2, 2011 8:21 PM
Buckeyechick;697751 wrote:Elaborate.

The video has nothing to do with "Prove it". Prove God exists. Go! LOL
Mar 2, 2011 8:21pm
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Mar 2, 2011 8:31 PM
sleeper;697864 wrote:The video has nothing to do with "Prove it". Prove God exists. Go! LOL
Sheep are not extinct but a Sabre Tooth Tiger is.
Mar 2, 2011 8:31pm
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Mar 2, 2011 8:50 PM
rydawg5;697875 wrote:Sheep are not extinct but a Sabre Tooth Tiger is.

Ah, I guess that means Christianity is the correct religion. Or how about Islam? Scientology? I can't tell, I guess you have to have faith. LOL
Mar 2, 2011 8:50pm
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Mar 2, 2011 9:00 PM
sleeper;697898 wrote:Ah, I guess that means Christianity is the correct religion. Or how about Islam? Scientology? I can't tell, I guess you have to have faith. LOL

You just asked how to prove the existence of God.

I just simply listed a defenseless good for nothing animal versus an alpha animal. One of which has survived and one hasn't. Seemingly impossible, but it is what it is.


I was just trying to say something a little out of the box than the typical responses.

Where did I mention religion?
Mar 2, 2011 9:00pm
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Mar 2, 2011 9:03 PM
rydawg5;697910 wrote:You just asked how to prove the existence of God.

I just simply listed a defenseless good for nothing animal versus an alpha animal. One of which has survived and one hasn't. Seemingly impossible, but it is what it is.


I was just trying to say something a little out of the box than the typical responses.

that literally doesn't prove anything
Mar 2, 2011 9:03pm
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Mar 2, 2011 9:05 PM
DeyDurkie5;697915 wrote:that literally doesn't prove anything

Nothing proves anything.
Mar 2, 2011 9:05pm
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Mar 2, 2011 9:05 PM
rydawg5;697910 wrote:You just asked how to prove the existence of God.

I just simply listed a defenseless good for nothing animal versus an alpha animal. One of which has survived and one hasn't. Seemingly impossible, but it is what it is.


I was just trying to say something a little out of the box than the typical responses.

Where did I mention religion?
It's a terrible argument. I wouldn't expect someone of your caliber to come up with anything better. Mediocrity is your future, good luck.
Mar 2, 2011 9:05pm
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Mar 2, 2011 9:09 PM
rydawg5;697910 wrote:You just asked how to prove the existence of God.

I just simply listed a defenseless good for nothing animal versus an alpha animal. One of which has survived and one hasn't. Seemingly impossible, but it is what it is.


I was just trying to say something a little out of the box than the typical responses.

Where did I mention religion?
That's a really bad argument. It is not seemingly impossible in anyway that sabre tooth's are extinct while sheep aren't.
Mar 2, 2011 9:09pm
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Mar 2, 2011 9:10 PM
I Wear Pants;697930 wrote:That's a really bad argument. It is not seemingly impossible in anyway that sabre tooth's are extinct while sheep aren't.

It's pretty crazy that sheep are still here if you think about it.
Mar 2, 2011 9:10pm
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Mar 2, 2011 9:12 PM
No it isn't.
Mar 2, 2011 9:12pm
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rydawg5

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Mar 2, 2011 9:13 PM
I Wear Pants;697934 wrote:No it isn't.

Besides being good targets for other animals to eat. Why would Sheep survive extinction versus any other animal?
Mar 2, 2011 9:13pm
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Mar 2, 2011 9:17 PM
Different situations man.

You really cannot compare why the sabre tooth or mammoth or anything else went extinct with Sheep.

Besides, Sheep have been impossible to go extinct for the past 10,000 years or so because humans have been keeping and breeding them.
Mar 2, 2011 9:17pm
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Mar 2, 2011 9:18 PM
I Wear Pants;697939 wrote:Different situations man.

You really cannot compare why the sabre tooth or mammoth or anything else went extinct with Sheep.

Besides, Sheep have been impossible to go extinct for the past 10,000 years or so because humans have been keeping and breeding them.
You sound like a christian acting like 10,000 years is so old.
Mar 2, 2011 9:18pm
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Mar 2, 2011 9:24 PM
What I was getting at is that there are lots of animals that aren't ferocious that are alive. It just works out that way.
Mar 2, 2011 9:24pm
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Mar 2, 2011 9:27 PM
sleeper;697864 wrote:The video has nothing to do with "Prove it". Prove God exists. Go! LOL

I can't prove conclusively that he exists any more than you can prove he does not exist. The reasons or evidence I would and/or could give can be debated to death especially if someone has decided that they are not going to believe.

A former atheist, Marilyn Adamson, put it this way:

"If a person opposes even the possibility of there being a God, then any evidence can be rationalized or explained away. It is like if someone refuses to believe that people have walked on the moon, then no amount of information is going to change their thinking. Photographs of astronauts walking on the moon, interviews with the astronauts, moon rocks...all the evidence would be worthless, because the person has already concluded that people cannot go to the moon."

I’m going to provide a link to her answering the question you asked me.

http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html

You can choose to believe or not believe that is your right just as it is mine to believe. I am not in the business to “force” someone to believe the same as I do. I respect one’s right to believe what they want but I expect that same respect in return.
Mar 2, 2011 9:27pm
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Mar 2, 2011 9:30 PM
tk421;697718 wrote:How do Christians know that their religion is the right one? What about Buddhists, Hindus, the Chinese, Atheists, etc. etc. or any of the other people on this planet who don't follow or haven't heard of Christianity? Are they all going to burn in hell? God created all this life on the planet, but just because you follow a different religion or haven't heard of it you're destined to burn for all eternity? What about the thousands of other religions that have been followed? What if you go to heaven or whatever it's called and find out it's Ra instead of God, etc. etc?


The Great Commission
Matthew 28:18-20 (NIV) states:

Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

This is commonly know as the "Great Commission." Jesus commands His disciples (and all of us Christians today) to go to all corners of the world (including the corners of our own neighborhoods, counties/parishes, states) spreading His love and God's word. He promises He will be with us if we do this.

Some people even believe that there is a promise in the last verse that once the whole world hears the message, then Jesus will come back, ending this age."


Hope that helps you.
Mar 2, 2011 9:30pm
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Mar 2, 2011 9:31 PM
I'm not one to mock people for their faith and don't like people making fun or belittling my beliefs.

That doesn't mean that religious/spiritual beliefs cannot be questioned or scrutinized however.
Mar 2, 2011 9:31pm
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Mar 2, 2011 9:32 PM
ccrunner609;697739 wrote:Like Charlie......winning!

Nah, more like The Book of Revelations...won
Mar 2, 2011 9:32pm
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Mar 2, 2011 9:34 PM
I Wear Pants;697959 wrote:I'm not one to mock people for their faith and don't like people making fun or belittling my beliefs.

That doesn't mean that religious/spiritual beliefs cannot be questioned or scrutinized however.

Absolutely, question,scrutinze and I would even suggest to set out and disprove God and his existence...C.S. Lewis did that.
Mar 2, 2011 9:34pm
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Mar 2, 2011 9:37 PM
I Wear Pants;697959 wrote:I'm not one to mock people for their faith and don't like people making fun or belittling my beliefs.

That doesn't mean that religious/spiritual beliefs cannot be questioned or scrutinized however.

I agree with you. I have no trouble with people questioning. I just can't stand when people mock or belittle and then trash those who are religious (no matter what the religion) for believing.

I suppose I should end on that note for tonight. I have a nasty headache and 3 sick little ones in the house. I guess I should sleep while I still have the opportunity.
Mar 2, 2011 9:37pm
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Mar 2, 2011 9:39 PM
Skyhook79;697958 wrote:The Great Commission
Matthew 28:18-20 (NIV) states:

Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

This is commonly know as the "Great Commission." Jesus commands His disciples (and all of us Christians today) to go to all corners of the world (including the corners of our own neighborhoods, counties/parishes, states) spreading His love and God's word. He promises He will be with us if we do this.

Some people even believe that there is a promise in the last verse that once the whole world hears the message, then Jesus will come back, ending this age."


Hope that helps you.

well, close the thread. this bible passage has solved our questions! skyhook is now jesus christ!!
Mar 2, 2011 9:39pm
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Mar 2, 2011 11:31 PM
Skyhook79;697958 wrote:The Great Commission
Matthew 28:18-20 (NIV) states:

Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

This is commonly know as the "Great Commission." Jesus commands His disciples (and all of us Christians today) to go to all corners of the world (including the corners of our own neighborhoods, counties/parishes, states) spreading His love and God's word. He promises He will be with us if we do this.

Some people even believe that there is a promise in the last verse that once the whole world hears the message, then Jesus will come back, ending this age."


Hope that helps you.

I have a hard time with people that always quote bits and pieces from the bible as if they were there when these comments were spoken.My big question is about proof and I have yet to be shown proof that anything in the bible is real and that it is not just some bestseller book that was written thousands of years ago by some cult leader.You can not even tell me when jesus was born because it is claimed that god did not want to provide that information to the public and you are told he was born from a virgin because he said he was.The only claim to jesus being the son of god was him telling everyone that, so where is the proof? I would like to see someone tell that story today and claim their mother was a virgin and he is the son of god.He would be locked in an institution for a very long time.

No pictures = No proof
Mar 2, 2011 11:31pm
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Mar 2, 2011 11:51 PM
I Wear Pants;697828 wrote:If there's more rules to this game than "try to do your best and be a decent person" then my feelings start to align witht the song Bukowski by Modest Mouse.
I would say Modest Mouse (who I enjoy, actually) oversimplifies.

If someone has the power to do something, it doesn't necessitate that he/she/it wields it constantly. A control freak seizes power whenever possible, while God allows his creation to play itself out for the most part, I think. I would hardly call that a control freak.
I Wear Pants;697959 wrote:I'm not one to mock people for their faith and don't like people making fun or belittling my beliefs.

That doesn't mean that religious/spiritual beliefs cannot be questioned or scrutinized however.
I wholeheartedly agree, IWP.
DeyDurkie5;697973 wrote:well, close the thread. this bible passage has solved our questions! skyhook is now jesus christ!!
lulzd.
Mar 2, 2011 11:51pm