
O-Trap
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Feb 13, 2011 4:01pm
LJ;676743 wrote:Whatever you want to think. I mean, you do realize that Columbus isn't some super safe clean city right? Saying that an area is bad compared to the rest of Columbus is not just over exaggerating. Columbus is the 7th most dangerous city out of cities 500k+.
I do. I'm there quite frequently. I've also been to Easton, though.
I'm not trying to start a big argument or anything. The word "ghetto" just gets thrown around a lot, when the reality is, most places that are called "ghetto" don't really fit it in a true sense. I'd say Easton is one of those. It gets called ghetto a lot, but around some places, it'd seem like Scranton, Pennsylvania.

gerb131
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Feb 13, 2011 4:01pm
I do find that hard to believe, I guess its just most of the incidents are in certain parts of the city.

4cards
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Feb 13, 2011 4:01pm
...hey now, don't be hate'n on the YoSQ_Crazies;676739 wrote:I mean it's probably not Youngstown, but that doesn't mean it isn't ghetto.

SQ_Crazies
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Feb 13, 2011 4:02pm
Not hating, just callin' it like I see it.

O-Trap
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Feb 13, 2011 4:04pm
4cards;676752 wrote:...hey now, don't be hate'n on the Yo
I lullzed at "hate'n on the Yo." Sounds like ghetto-speak.

LJ
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Feb 13, 2011 4:06pm
O-Trap;676749 wrote:I do. I'm there quite frequently. I've also been to Easton, though.
I'm not trying to start a big argument or anything. The word "ghetto" just gets thrown around a lot, when the reality is, most places that are called "ghetto" don't really fit it in a true sense. I'd say Easton is one of those. It gets called ghetto a lot, but around some places, it'd seem like Scranton, Pennsylvania.
And I live 9 miles from there and my office is there. Now who's opinion would you take more? SOmeone who lives very close and works there daily, or someone who visits a few times per year?
And trust me, I used to do work in the most dangerous precinct in Columbus (Cleveland Ave to the East, Karl rd to the West, 161 to the north and Morse to the south. Forrest Park/Northland area) so I am not just saying that the only area I have ever been to that has some crime is Ghetto.

LJ
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Feb 13, 2011 4:06pm
gerb131;676751 wrote:I do find that hard to believe, I guess its just most of the incidents are in certain parts of the city.
Find what hard to believe? 7th most dangerous out of cities 500k+?
Columbus proper has MAJOR crime issues.

bases_loaded
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Feb 13, 2011 4:06pm
You're a cop?

LJ
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Feb 13, 2011 4:07pm
who's a cop?

bases_loaded
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Feb 13, 2011 4:09pm
you?

gerb131
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Feb 13, 2011 4:09pm
LJ;676764 wrote:Find what hard to believe? 7th most dangerous out of cities 500k+?
Columbus proper has MAJOR crime issues.
I'm not saying it doesn't it obviously does the stats don't lie. It is just different as most of the crime takes place in certain areas for the most part and not all over.

LJ
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Feb 13, 2011 4:10pm
bases_loaded;676769 wrote:you?
What makes you think that? All the information I have is publicly available.
Heck, this website you can see every police run in every precint and zone
http://www.columbuspolice.org/reports/

gerb131
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Feb 13, 2011 4:12pm
It's like the heroin problem in Lancaster its crazy but if you didn't live here you prob wouldn't know about it.

O-Trap
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Feb 13, 2011 4:12pm
LJ;676761 wrote:And I live 9 miles from there and my office is there. Now who's opinion would you take more? SOmeone who lives very close and works there daily, or someone who visits a few times per year?
And trust me, I used to do work in the most dangerous precinct in Columbus (Cleveland Ave to the East, Karl rd to the West, 161 to the north and Morse to the south. Forrest Park/Northland area) so I am not just saying that the only area I have ever been to that has some crime is Ghetto.
Depends. As I said before, the problem with asking people who live somewhere is, they typically have a narrow scope. Ask people in North Hill if it's ghetto? They'll often tell you yes (crime + Section 8 housing run amok), and they have lived here most of (or all of, in some cases) their lives.
If you think it's ghetto, that's fine. No sense in discussing it further. Just, I've seen too many other places that belong an entire tier below Easton in terms of the microculture.

LJ
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Feb 13, 2011 4:12pm
gerb131;676772 wrote:I'm not saying it doesn't it obviously does the stats don't lie. It is just different as most of the crime takes place in certain areas for the most part and not all over.
Eh, mainly it is all over Columbus proper minus small parts of the East and west sides and Clintonville. Most of the nicer areas are not actually Columbus. Hell, even the Short North and German Village still are having B&E issues.

LJ
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Feb 13, 2011 4:13pm
O-Trap;676776 wrote:Depends. As I said before, the problem with asking people who live somewhere is, they typically have a narrow scope. Ask people in North Hill if it's ghetto? They'll often tell you yes (crime + Section 8 housing run amok), and they have lived here most of (or all of, in some cases) their lives.
If you think it's ghetto, that's fine. No sense in discussing it further. Just, I've seen too many other places that belong an entire tier below Easton in terms of the microculture.
Just because 1 area is worse than another doesn't mean they aren't both the ghetto. That's like saying between dark red and bright red, only dark red can be called red.

O-Trap
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Feb 13, 2011 4:15pm
LJ;676777 wrote:... still are having B&E issues.
Nothing like a good ol' B&E.
This happened at a friend's house a block from here about a month ago. We were over, but we were all down in the basement. Heard noise upstairs. Went up and saw the guy run out the front door, the deadbolt of which had been busted.
Scary when it happens.

O-Trap
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Feb 13, 2011 4:16pm
LJ;676778 wrote:Just because 1 area is worse than another doesn't mean they aren't both the ghetto. That's like saying between dark red and bright red, only dark red can be called red.
Of course.
I was talking "not in the ballpark" kind of difference. Hence the Scranton, PA comment before.
Either way, I feel silly for having actually had this conversation. LOL!
It's a shady place. I don't think anyone can disagree with that.

gerb131
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Feb 13, 2011 4:16pm
LJ;676777 wrote:Eh, mainly it is all over Columbus proper minus small parts of the East and west sides and Clintonville. Most of the nicer areas are not actually Columbus. Hell, even the Short North and German Village still are having B&E issues.
Point taken. I guess I was generalizing Franklin County as a whole.

End of Line
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Feb 13, 2011 4:17pm
For as nice as Easton is, it's trash at night.

gerb131
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Feb 13, 2011 4:19pm
The_Crosby_Show;676785 wrote:For as nice as Easton is, it's trash at night.
Used to be the place me and the woman would watch a late night movie but now its Picktown.

LJ
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Feb 13, 2011 4:22pm
gerb131;676786 wrote:Used to be the place me and the woman would watch a late night movie but now its Picktown.
Same here. The Marcus on 256. We never go to Easton for Movies anymore. Hell, I think the only reason we go there anymore for pleasure is to go to te Tender Box and Fado.

gerb131
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Feb 13, 2011 4:24pm
LJ;676790 wrote:Same here. The Marcus on 256. We never go to Easton for Movies anymore. Hell, I think the only reason we go there anymore for pleasure is to go to te Tender Box and Fado.
PF Changs too
2kool4skool
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Feb 13, 2011 4:39pm
SQ_Crazies;676718 wrote:"You're racist if you say ghetto."--2kool4skool
Certainly not. You're racist when you go on paragraph long diatribes using derogatory terms for black people every 5 words though.
LJ;676708 wrote:What I find hilarious is most people on here who don't live in Columbus are disagreeing with me,
I live near Easton.
Probably because most people who regularly visit Easton have no concept of what a "ghetto" is.LJ;676708 wrote:yet on another local forum, people from all walks of life who live in Columbus agree that Easton gets very ghetto at night.
Just to be clear, I by no means think you're racist. I just think you're off in thinking Easton is anywhere near "ghetto" status. I regularly walk back to my car from Easton at night, and have never felt the least bit in danger. Are there lower class people hanging around there? Sure. But that doesn't make it "a ghetto."LJ;676708 wrote:It's not being racist or anything like that, it is just the truth. They have their own security force and hire as many special duty CPD as they possibly can, and they still cannot control the problems they have.
I suppose it's just semantics, but I'd reserve a term like "ghetto" for somewhere other than a nice shopping mall in Columbus, Ohio.

End of Line
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Feb 13, 2011 4:50pm
gerb131;676793 wrote:PF Changs too
I'll go to the Hilton on friday nights every now and then for their all you can eat Sushi.