vball10set;643145 wrote:not that I have to defend my opinion, but yes, it's very close, and as I stated earlier--we'll see how it shakes out after the game next week
Well, I based my prediction on what recent history says, in addition to the chip that will inevitably be on Purdue's shoulder as the Boilermakers head into their toughest game of the season. This is their chance to show the nation that, with or without Robbie Hummel, they are a serious contender to reach Houston.centralbucksfan wrote:I disagree about first loss. I think OSU has a better chance of losing at ILL then they do at home vs Purdue. Purdue will be the first BIG game this year at the Schott. The place will be packed and rocking. I look for OSU to step up in this game. Purdue is also coming off a couple of losses. Not playing their best after being on a roll.
LOL--you really are a piece of work, aren't ya'... believe it or not, you are NOT an expert on all things OSU- you are a person on an internet message board expressing an opnion, just like everyone else on here. And for the record, Mbakwe had 16 points, 12 rebounds and 4 blocked shots vs. OSU, so we'll use these as a measuring stick next Tuesday.centralbucksfan;643167 wrote:NO, its really not that close.
Johnson is avg 20pts per game, 8rbs and over 2 blocks per game
Mbakwe is avg 13pts, 10 rbs and under 2 blocks per game.
If you check NBA Mock Draft...Johnson is listed anywhere from 1st to 2nd rd. Mbakwe isn't on the radar.
A piece of work for stating the obvious? Ya, ok. BTW, last year, Johnson 24 @ OSU. His frosh year, he had 30 vs OSU @ OSU. How is that for a measuring stick? I think Mbakwe is a fine player. But he is not on the level of Johnson, nor has he ever been. 20/8 vs 13/10 pretty much says it all.vball10set;643581 wrote:LOL--you really are a piece of work, aren't ya'... believe it or not, you are NOT an expert on all things OSU- you are a person on an internet message board expressing an opnion, just like everyone else on here. And for the record, Mbakwe had 16 points, 12 rebounds and 4 blocked shots vs. OSU, so we'll use these as a measuring stick next Tuesday.
Also, you're right about Mbakwe not being on your mock draft "radar" (yet), but I think you overstated Johnson's stock a little, don't ya' think?
http://www.nbadraft.net/2011mock_draft
thedynasty1998;643634 wrote:Mbakwe isn't as good offensively as Johnson, but he's a better defender. I assume that's what this original debate was highlighting.
And yes, Johnson has been All Defense, but he has been able to take advantage of a conference without any back to the basket post players. He is just fine playing against a 5 that he doesn't really have to guard and can use his size to block and alter shots. However, when he is playing against someone who is going to get into his chest, we will see how good of a defender he really is.
centralbucksfan;643638 wrote:A piece of work for stating the obvious? Ya, ok. BTW, last year, Johnson 24 @ OSU. His frosh year, he had 30 vs OSU @ OSU. How is that for a measuring stick? I think Mbakwe is a fine player. But he is not on the level of Johnson, nor has he ever been. 20/8 vs 13/10 pretty much says it all.
vball10set;643640 wrote:good post, and I agree--I should have been more specific when making my original statement
vball10set;643642 wrote:BTW, did Sullinger play last year? I was talking about THIS GAME, THIS YEAR--try and keep up now, ok? :rolleyes:
Hb31187;643662 wrote:Guys with length/shot blockers can be JUST as much of a problem as guys who can bang with you. Look at Marcus Camby, he was a twig....but he knew how to use his body and had length and could jump. Thus causing problems for players trying to post him up.
Not to mention he's a senior playing against a freshman(if they even match up) and keeps himself out of foul trouble (1.4 fouls per 34 minutes).
thedynasty1998;643671 wrote:Camby is a much better off the ball defender than on ball defender. Same as Johnson.
And yes, you are correct, but Sullinger is just as tall and uses his body better than anyone Johnson has ever played.
Ill beat MSU last nite.
centralbucksfan;643645 wrote:This YEAR
20/8 vs 13/10
How is that for keeping up.
centralbucksfan;643679 wrote:Just as tall? Johnson is 6'10", Sully is not quite that big. They stretch him in media program. He is around 6'8" maybe.
vball10set;643682 wrote:indulge me--what does this have to do with Sully vs. Johnson/Mbakwe?
Done here. Can agree to disagree...
Hb31187;643721 wrote:I would feel comfortable placing a bet of 100 dollars(not with any of you, but if someone bet me in person) that Johnsons wing span is at LEAST a few inches longer than Sullys. Are you guys seeing the same person I am?
Jester;643833 wrote:Oh and to think I started all this bickering.
