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Jan 6, 2011 11:57 AM
I am always amazed when coaches become the "Flavor of the Month". Jim Harbaugh is a good coach, but he has very little NFL experience. Why would the Miami Dolphins offer him 7-8 million dollars per year?? He deserves whatever he can get, but why do the Dolphins think he is worthy of being the highest paid coach in the NF, as has been reported by Chris Mortensen.

He has done a great job at Stanford, but he also has a player who the experts consider to be a "Once in a Lifetime" player. Stanford dominated VT, but was VT really a good team? The Hokies did lose to James Madison earlier in the season.

I completely understand his attraction for Michigan. I don't get the NFL interest. The only college coach that had equal success in the NFL was Jimmy Johnson.Other college coaches, with a better track record than Harbaugh, have failed in the NFL.Steve Spurrier comes to mind.
Jan 6, 2011 11:57am
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Jan 6, 2011 12:08 PM
The thing with harbaugh is that he was an NFL type coach, coaching in college. I think he will be an excellent NFL coach, but I do agree he doesn't deserve 7-8 mill a tear
Jan 6, 2011 12:08pm
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Jan 6, 2011 12:14 PM
The thing with harbaugh is that he was an NFL type coach, coaching in college.
I know Stanford runs a pro-style offense. Does that make him an NFL type coach?
Jan 6, 2011 12:14pm
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Jan 6, 2011 12:17 PM
you gotta' strike while the iron's hot....just as long as he doesn't end up at tsun
Jan 6, 2011 12:17pm
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Jan 6, 2011 12:35 PM
Prescott;627995 wrote:I know Stanford runs a pro-style offense. Does that make him an NFL type coach?

That was my thinking. Is it his charisma that makes him an NFL coach? What separates an NFL Coach and a NCAA Coach? besides money.
Jan 6, 2011 12:35pm
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Jan 6, 2011 1:33 PM
you gotta' strike while the iron's hot....just as long as he doesn't end up at tsun
I don't blame Harbaugh at all. I have no problem if he goes to UM. The Buckeyes need the Wolverines to get better.
Is it his charisma that makes him an NFL coach?
He has very limited NFL coaching experience. He had great success at the University of San Diego, but how much weight does that bring?
Jan 6, 2011 1:33pm
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Jan 6, 2011 2:25 PM
I don't get it at all either. What has he done to deserve to be the highest paid coach in the NFL? He has limited NFL coaching experience as a QB coach for the Raiders for a short stint. Other than that, his Stanford success is all he has.
Crimson streak;627984 wrote:The thing with harbaugh is that he was an NFL type coach, coaching in college. I think he will be an excellent NFL coach, but I do agree he doesn't deserve 7-8 mill a tear

I totally disagree. His character suits the college game much better. Great motivator, fired up all the time. What makes you think he is NFL material?
Jan 6, 2011 2:25pm
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Jan 6, 2011 2:31 PM
Very few times have "rah rah" guys had successful NFL careers. Probably even less likely now with player salaries where they are, and the look at me crap.
Jan 6, 2011 2:31pm
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Jan 6, 2011 2:45 PM
WebFire;628203 wrote:I totally disagree. His character suits the college game much better. Great motivator, fired up all the time. What makes you think he is NFL material?
no doubt about it, Webbie, and there are many who agree with you--like the entire ESPN gang!!!!
Jan 6, 2011 2:45pm
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Jan 6, 2011 3:39 PM
I think he's one of those rare coaches who can be successful at either level -- but I've always thought he'd probably end up in the NFL since he played there so many years, and his brother is coaching there.

In any event, I hope he accepts the Miami (or 49er) offer and goes to the pros. I want him nowhere near Ann Arbor, because I do think he'd turn them around in no time.

Unlike some of you, I don't care if UM stays mediocre and irrelevant in college football -- forever.
Jan 6, 2011 3:39pm
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Jan 6, 2011 3:51 PM
Does he deserve 8 million per year? No. Will he be a great NFL coach, probably. I think he'll end up in San Francisco if he even leaves Stanford at all. He's a Northern California guy...grew up there, has landed there now with Stanford, probably doesn't want to leave if he doesn't have to.
He's very well off financially already, he has alot of ventures outside of football. I don't believe money is a motivating factor. He played in the league, his brother coaches in the league, he knows you need a top QB to win in the league. So he may just hold out for a job where he can be guarenteed a top QB - either one already there, or they get his kid, LUCK, next year through draft/trade. He's going to have to be lured away by control, not money. He is used to Stanford, where he answers to nobody, and that's what he'll want again.
Jan 6, 2011 3:51pm
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Jan 6, 2011 4:27 PM
WebFire;628203 wrote:I totally disagree. His character suits the college game much better. Great motivator, fired up all the time. What makes you think he is NFL material?


His brother has been pretty successful in Baltimore.
Jan 6, 2011 4:27pm
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Jan 6, 2011 4:28 PM
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Jan 6, 2011 4:35 PM
karen lotz;628380 wrote:His brother has been pretty successful in Baltimore.

He's not his brother.
Jan 6, 2011 4:35pm
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Jan 6, 2011 4:38 PM
WebFire;628396 wrote:He's not his brother.


Huh? You are joking right?

http://www.gostanford.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/harbaugh_jim00.html
Harbaugh comes from a family of coaches. In addition to his father, Jack, who coached for 41-years, including 14 at Western Kentucky, his brother John is the head coach of the Baltimore Ravens. His brother-in-law, Tom Crean, is the head basketball coach at Indiana University.
I thought you were a Michigan Man?
Jan 6, 2011 4:38pm
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Jan 6, 2011 4:44 PM
John Harbaugh had 10 years of NFL coaching experience before becoming the head coach of the Ravens.
Jan 6, 2011 4:44pm
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Jan 6, 2011 5:37 PM
Prescott;628159 wrote:
He has very limited NFL coaching experience. He had great success at the University of San Diego, but how much weight does that bring?

Don't know how good he will be in the NFL, if he goes that way. But the guy played QB for 15yrs in the NFL. Not sure I would call that limited experience. He obviously knows the NFL with his time there.
Jan 6, 2011 5:37pm
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Jan 6, 2011 6:14 PM
But the guy played QB for 15yrs in the NFL. Not sure I would call that limited experience. He obviously knows the NFL with his time there.
I disagree. Playing and coaching are two different things.
Jan 6, 2011 6:14pm
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Jan 6, 2011 6:17 PM
Hes a great coach.
Jan 6, 2011 6:17pm
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Jan 6, 2011 6:41 PM
WebFire;628396 wrote:He's not his brother.
karen lotz;628400 wrote:Huh? You are joking right?

http://www.gostanford.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/harbaugh_jim00.html

I thought you were a Michigan Man?
LOL--I think Webbie meant that Jim is not his brother John, in a figurative sense...I believe that he knows they're siblings
Jan 6, 2011 6:41pm
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Jan 6, 2011 7:37 PM
That's what I was thinking.

John was a DC for the Eagles for a few years as well as holding a couple other positions.
Jan 6, 2011 7:37pm
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Jan 6, 2011 9:16 PM
vball10set;628494 wrote:LOL--I think Webbie meant that Jim is not his brother John, in a figurative sense...I believe that he knows they're siblings

Yeah that's what I meant. Of course they are brothers. :rolleyes:
Jan 6, 2011 9:16pm
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Jan 6, 2011 9:55 PM
To further my point about Jim being a college type coach, here is a piece about his BROTHER John, which I think describes Jim as well...
“I had to write after seeing John Harbaugh on the hot board. Our Ravens beat writers have always felt he's more of a college coach than an NFL coach. Their reasoning is that he tries to pull a lot of motivational tactics that don't work on pros, but would be perfect in college. He's a very controlling guy. Ravens fans, meanwhile, are an incredibly fickle bunch. He's been ripped way too much for a guy who's had as much success as he's had here. It's been Super Bowl or bust all season long. If they lose to Kansas City this weekend, I could definitely see him making the move.”
Jan 6, 2011 9:55pm
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Jan 6, 2011 11:22 PM
Hey bring the Harbaugh brothers to Michigan. One attended Pioneer for awhile and UM, while the other graduated from Pioneer. One can coach the O, while the other coaches the D.
Jan 6, 2011 11:22pm
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Jan 7, 2011 2:32 AM
WebFire;628605 wrote:Yeah that's what I meant. Of course they are brothers. :rolleyes:

HAHA My bad, I was really confused by that obviously.
Jan 7, 2011 2:32am