like_that
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Sep 8, 2011 5:25pm
With the exception of 2-3 games, all of the games last year were pretty competitive.sleeper;887786 wrote:I think this team is better than last years, but I don't really see anything better than 6-7 wins.
The biggest difference will be the games will actually be competitive and the offense will be at least somewhat competent, which will be more enjoyable to watch.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Sep 8, 2011 5:42pm
How is it that, every season, we see one or two teams surprise everyone in the league by becoming a winning team after years of losing?
The difference between a win and a loss in this league is usually pretty slim with most match ups. There is parity to be found throughout the league with very few exceptions. As a season goes on, it takes a toll on those that are just a bit weaker (less depth) and the haves separate a bit from the have nots.
So long as they avoid injuries (a huge if) I can see this team doing much better than a year ago. A much better offensive system and a defensive scheme that isn't predicated on taking huge chances every other play but depends more on solid positioning, should be the difference.
Honestly, Mangini simply wasn't a very good coach. Dabol was much worse as a coordinator, and Ryan has a better rep than he probably deserves most of the time...although he was far better than the other two.
I could be very wrong on this analysis and it wouldn't shock anyone -- including me, but this team feels different than any of the others have since the franchise came back. Perhaps it's because I see more talent at more positions; time will tell if my eyes are fooling me.
The difference between a win and a loss in this league is usually pretty slim with most match ups. There is parity to be found throughout the league with very few exceptions. As a season goes on, it takes a toll on those that are just a bit weaker (less depth) and the haves separate a bit from the have nots.
So long as they avoid injuries (a huge if) I can see this team doing much better than a year ago. A much better offensive system and a defensive scheme that isn't predicated on taking huge chances every other play but depends more on solid positioning, should be the difference.
Honestly, Mangini simply wasn't a very good coach. Dabol was much worse as a coordinator, and Ryan has a better rep than he probably deserves most of the time...although he was far better than the other two.
I could be very wrong on this analysis and it wouldn't shock anyone -- including me, but this team feels different than any of the others have since the franchise came back. Perhaps it's because I see more talent at more positions; time will tell if my eyes are fooling me.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Sep 8, 2011 5:42pm
Bill Simmons picked Browns to make the playoffs at 10-6 just as I have been saying. Book it folks.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Sep 8, 2011 6:26pm
Teams have went from 1-15, 2-14 to the playoffs the very next season.
Am I saying the Browns go from 5-11 to the playoffs? Not likely, especially in the AFC North... However, somtimes teams that are expected to be very good, falter as well..
Point is, the NFL is truly a year to year league.
Am I saying the Browns go from 5-11 to the playoffs? Not likely, especially in the AFC North... However, somtimes teams that are expected to be very good, falter as well..
Point is, the NFL is truly a year to year league.
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BR1986FB
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Sep 8, 2011 7:03pm
[h=1]Cleveland Browns' run defense has been awful since 1999, but maybe a new look and new coordinator can change that, Terry Pluto writes[/h] [h=5]Published: Thursday, September 08, 2011, 6:36 PM Updated: Thursday, September 08, 2011, 6:45 PM[/h] By Terry Pluto, The Plain Dealer The Plain Dealer
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Chuck Crow, The Plain DealerHere's hoping the changes on defense implemented by new defensive coordinator Dick Jauron, above, will improve the team's dismal run defense.
I want to believe, I really do.
I want to believe that this is the season that the Browns' defense finally stops the run. OK, maybe not shut it down. Maybe not send fear into opposing running backs.
How about a little mediocrity when it comes to defending the run?
Yes, mediocrity . . . something like a ranking of 20th out of 32 teams.
If the Browns somehow rank in the top 16, then Dick Jauron should be the NFL's defensive coordinator of the year.
That's because the Browns have never been even respectable against the run since they returned in 1999.
It's always dangerous to use words such as always and never. Because, almost never is something always a certain way.
But when it comes to the Browns' defense against the run, it's always bad.
Unless it's awful.
The Browns ranked 26th against the run last season, and that was their second-best ranking since the team returned in 1999.
The top was 22 in 2003.
That's right, the Browns have never been higher than No. 22 since the team returned a dozen years ago.
Their average ranking since 1999 is No. 28.
Here are the rankings for the past eight years: 26-29-28-27-29-30-32-22.
Stopping the run does matter. Yes, last season's Super Bowl champion Packers were a blah No. 18. But the other teams in the NFL's final four: Steelers (No. 1), Bears (No. 2) and Jets (No. 3).
To the credit of General Manager Tom Heckert, he has drafted defensive players with his top two picks in his first two years with the Browns.
In 2010, it was cornerback Joe Haden and safety T.J. Ward. This summer, it's defensive tackle Phil Taylor and defensive end Jabaal Sheard.
He also traded for Chris Gocong and Sheldon Brown, both considered reliable tacklers. D'Qwell Jackson seems healthy for the first time since 2008, and he appears to have a clue about defending the run.
Jauron is the ninth different defensive coordinator since 1999.
Yes, nine different defensive coordinators since 1999. Maybe that has something to do with the Swiss cheese of a run defense. He is changing from the 3-4 defense of the past six years to a 4-3. That means four linemen and three linebackers.
Jauron talked about the game being for "big people" when it comes to defenses dealing with the run. He believes he has two of them in tackles Ahtyba Rubin (330 pounds) and Taylor (335 pounds). He also has two very inexperienced defensive ends in Sheard (a rookie) and Jayme Mitchell (zero pro starts in five years).
A key will be the linebackers. The trio of Scott Fujita, Jackson and Gocong all can defend the run reasonably well. But will they stay healthy? Gocong missed nearly all of training camp with a pinched nerve in his neck.
Jauron has been a head coach for 10 seasons with two different teams, and been a defensive coordinator for two other teams covering six more years.
In his past six years at Buffalo (head coach, 2006-09) and Detroit (coordinator, 2004-05), Jauron's team's rankings against the run were 29-21-24-27-23-14. Of course, he also has been with two of the NFL's least talented teams in the past dozen years.
Obviously, he knows something to continually secure good jobs, and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
With rookie head coach Pat Shurmur also serving as his own offensive coordinator, it's critical the Browns have what amounts to a head coach running the defense. Jauron should be able to fill that role.
Now we'll see if he can find the right guys to fill the holes in the Browns' defense.
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Chuck Crow, The Plain DealerHere's hoping the changes on defense implemented by new defensive coordinator Dick Jauron, above, will improve the team's dismal run defense.I want to believe, I really do.
I want to believe that this is the season that the Browns' defense finally stops the run. OK, maybe not shut it down. Maybe not send fear into opposing running backs.
How about a little mediocrity when it comes to defending the run?
Yes, mediocrity . . . something like a ranking of 20th out of 32 teams.
If the Browns somehow rank in the top 16, then Dick Jauron should be the NFL's defensive coordinator of the year.
That's because the Browns have never been even respectable against the run since they returned in 1999.
It's always dangerous to use words such as always and never. Because, almost never is something always a certain way.
But when it comes to the Browns' defense against the run, it's always bad.
Unless it's awful.
The Browns ranked 26th against the run last season, and that was their second-best ranking since the team returned in 1999.
The top was 22 in 2003.
That's right, the Browns have never been higher than No. 22 since the team returned a dozen years ago.
Their average ranking since 1999 is No. 28.
Here are the rankings for the past eight years: 26-29-28-27-29-30-32-22.
Stopping the run does matter. Yes, last season's Super Bowl champion Packers were a blah No. 18. But the other teams in the NFL's final four: Steelers (No. 1), Bears (No. 2) and Jets (No. 3).
To the credit of General Manager Tom Heckert, he has drafted defensive players with his top two picks in his first two years with the Browns.
In 2010, it was cornerback Joe Haden and safety T.J. Ward. This summer, it's defensive tackle Phil Taylor and defensive end Jabaal Sheard.
He also traded for Chris Gocong and Sheldon Brown, both considered reliable tacklers. D'Qwell Jackson seems healthy for the first time since 2008, and he appears to have a clue about defending the run.
Jauron is the ninth different defensive coordinator since 1999.
Yes, nine different defensive coordinators since 1999. Maybe that has something to do with the Swiss cheese of a run defense. He is changing from the 3-4 defense of the past six years to a 4-3. That means four linemen and three linebackers.
Jauron talked about the game being for "big people" when it comes to defenses dealing with the run. He believes he has two of them in tackles Ahtyba Rubin (330 pounds) and Taylor (335 pounds). He also has two very inexperienced defensive ends in Sheard (a rookie) and Jayme Mitchell (zero pro starts in five years).
A key will be the linebackers. The trio of Scott Fujita, Jackson and Gocong all can defend the run reasonably well. But will they stay healthy? Gocong missed nearly all of training camp with a pinched nerve in his neck.
Jauron has been a head coach for 10 seasons with two different teams, and been a defensive coordinator for two other teams covering six more years.
In his past six years at Buffalo (head coach, 2006-09) and Detroit (coordinator, 2004-05), Jauron's team's rankings against the run were 29-21-24-27-23-14. Of course, he also has been with two of the NFL's least talented teams in the past dozen years.
Obviously, he knows something to continually secure good jobs, and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
With rookie head coach Pat Shurmur also serving as his own offensive coordinator, it's critical the Browns have what amounts to a head coach running the defense. Jauron should be able to fill that role.
Now we'll see if he can find the right guys to fill the holes in the Browns' defense.
http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/blog/index.ssf/2011/09/post_44.html
Commander of Awesome
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Sep 8, 2011 7:37pm
That hat is embarrassing Shumur. SMH
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BR1986FB
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Sep 8, 2011 7:42pm
It would be if it was a younger guy like Shurmur but since it's an old guy (Jauron), I'll give him a pass.Commander of Awesome;887937 wrote:That hat is embarrassing Shumur. SMH
Commander of Awesome
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Sep 8, 2011 7:53pm
Oh you're right, it is Jauron....BR1986FB;887949 wrote:It would be if it was a younger guy like Shurmur but since it's an old guy (Jauron), I'll give him a pass.
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BR1986FB
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Sep 8, 2011 8:07pm
[h=1]Browns players hope Shurmur’s ways bring continuity[/h] Atmosphere new coach creates has the Browns very eager to produce
By Marla Ridenour
Beacon Journal sports columnist
Published: September 8, 2011 - 12:12 AM RELATED STORIES
Browns players hope Shurmur’s ways bring continuity September 08,2011 03:12 AM GMT Marla Ridenour Beacon Journal Publishing Co. Copyright � 2011 Beacon Journal Publishing Co. Inc and Black Press. All Rights Reserved. Any copying, redistribution or retransmission of any of the contents of this service without the express written consent of the Akron Beacon Journal is expressly prohibited.
BEREA: Wednesday wasn’t the official start of the Pat Shurmur era.
But it was the first day the Browns came to work under Shurmur when it counted, beginning preparation for Sunday’s regular-season opener at home against the Cincinnati Bengals.
Somehow, the atmosphere seemed different.
Call it a “gut” feeling, as Butch Davis would. Reinforce it with an affable “sure,” as Romeo Crennel always did.
But some players believe they might finally be seeing the end of the revolving door of coaches.
Counting Shurmur, five men have held the Browns’ top job in 13 years since the franchise returned in 1999. Three have been handed the reins in the past five seasons.
Not only have the faces changed, but also the rules, the personalities and the demeanors. So have the openness, the trust and the tone of voice.
In a little over a month, the rookie coach who spent only two years as an offensive coordinator has earned his players’ respect. And perhaps the biggest key was being secure enough in himself and his system to give them ownership of the team.
“He’s created a great environment for us to want to come to work,” linebacker D’Qwell Jackson said of Shurmur, his third coach since he was drafted in 2006. “You can tell the players are more involved. We have a lot more opinion about things.
“The defensive and offensive side, they’ve named their guys and we basically run the team from within. If the issue gets bigger than that, the head man will step in. But he’s given us ownership of the team. In the past it hasn’t really been like that.”
Linebacker Scott Fujita, one of three on the Browns’ active roster with a Super Bowl ring, appreciates that approach.
“In general the teams that are successful, they’re player-led teams,” said Fujita, who played on the New Orleans Saints championship team in 2009. “Coach Shurmur is going to turn over the keys to us and say, ‘You need to run this thing the right way. I don’t need to be the guy policing the locker room. That’s on you guys.’ I think we embraced that.
“There’s two different philosophies. Not saying one’s better than the other. This is good for this group of guys.”
Cornerback Sheldon Brown admits he’s biased. Beginning his 10th year in the NFL, Brown spent eight years in Philadelphia, seven of those when Shurmur was the Eagles’ quarterbacks coach. But Brown said Shurmur putting the onus on his players is “how it should be.”
“You have guys who go home to their families, to their kids. You’ll tell me I can raise a family, but I can’t behave and act like a pro?” Brown said. “Give me the locker room. He understands that and I think that’s why the guys love and respect him.”
The professionalism Shurmur brought and the continuity expected from the pairing of Shurmur, president Mike Holmgren and General Manager Tom Heckert was a big reason left tackle Joe Thomas signed a seven-year, $84 million contract extension on Aug. 22.
“He won the respect of some of the leaders on the team right away with the way he treated them,” Thomas said. “Everyone kind of falls in line when you get that to happen.”
Shurmur believes in a professional approach, in people doing their jobs, and in human dignity. That means “everybody’s job is important whether you’re talking to the media or you might be on two phases of special teams,” he said.
When he metes out his rules, he explains the reasons why, even for something so simple as tucking in jerseys and undershirts at practice.
“First of all it looks good,” Shurmur said. “Second of all, it’s a safety concern. Nobody that is trying to tackle you will grab the back of your jersey. Even if they want to, they can’t get it.”
That method is going over well with kicker Phil Dawson, the longest-tenured Brown, who is beginning his 13th season in Cleveland.
“That’s the way it is with my kids,” said Dawson, a father of three. “I’ve tried just laying it down and they’ll follow it, but sometimes when you explain, ‘This is why,’ they respond better. We certainly have.”
Shurmur has brought more than that, Dawson said.
“There’s definitely a very professional feeling. More stable in some ways,” he said. “The communication is very clear. Everybody knows what’s expected. There’s not a lot of emotion, not highs or lows.”
Long-snapper Ryan Pontbriand, drafted by Davis in 2003, practically glows over the change in atmosphere.
“This is the most positive, the happiest I’ve been since I’ve been here,” Pontbriand said. “The focus is still the same, it’s about doing your job, being professional, making plays. But the attitude is completely positive, there’s no negative whatsoever. I’m almost a little shocked at how positive it is.
“It’s kind of funny, this is all I ever wanted. I’ve always wanted to be on a team where they say, ‘Be a professional and do your job.’ ”
Asked about feeling so strongly about a rookie coach, Pontbriand said: “He doesn’t act like it. It’s a really nice change.” His eyes widened and his eyebrows arched to emphasize his point.
No one knows whether the positive attitude Shurmur has brought and how he’s handled the team’s leadership will translate into victories. That might ride more on Heckert’s talent evaluations and whether Colt is the real McCoy.
But as the Shurmur era dawns, the Browns hope they’ll finally taste the continuity they’ve long craved. They can only imagine how sweet it is.
Marla Ridenour can be reached at [email protected]. Read her blog at http://marla.ohio.com/. Follow her on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/MarlaRidenour. Follow ABJ sports on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/sports.abj.
http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/browns-players-hope-shurmur-s-ways-bring-continuity-1.233827
By Marla Ridenour
Beacon Journal sports columnist
Published: September 8, 2011 - 12:12 AM RELATED STORIES
Browns players hope Shurmur’s ways bring continuity September 08,2011 03:12 AM GMT Marla Ridenour Beacon Journal Publishing Co. Copyright � 2011 Beacon Journal Publishing Co. Inc and Black Press. All Rights Reserved. Any copying, redistribution or retransmission of any of the contents of this service without the express written consent of the Akron Beacon Journal is expressly prohibited.
But it was the first day the Browns came to work under Shurmur when it counted, beginning preparation for Sunday’s regular-season opener at home against the Cincinnati Bengals.
Somehow, the atmosphere seemed different.
Call it a “gut” feeling, as Butch Davis would. Reinforce it with an affable “sure,” as Romeo Crennel always did.
But some players believe they might finally be seeing the end of the revolving door of coaches.
Counting Shurmur, five men have held the Browns’ top job in 13 years since the franchise returned in 1999. Three have been handed the reins in the past five seasons.
Not only have the faces changed, but also the rules, the personalities and the demeanors. So have the openness, the trust and the tone of voice.
In a little over a month, the rookie coach who spent only two years as an offensive coordinator has earned his players’ respect. And perhaps the biggest key was being secure enough in himself and his system to give them ownership of the team.
“He’s created a great environment for us to want to come to work,” linebacker D’Qwell Jackson said of Shurmur, his third coach since he was drafted in 2006. “You can tell the players are more involved. We have a lot more opinion about things.
“The defensive and offensive side, they’ve named their guys and we basically run the team from within. If the issue gets bigger than that, the head man will step in. But he’s given us ownership of the team. In the past it hasn’t really been like that.”
Linebacker Scott Fujita, one of three on the Browns’ active roster with a Super Bowl ring, appreciates that approach.
“In general the teams that are successful, they’re player-led teams,” said Fujita, who played on the New Orleans Saints championship team in 2009. “Coach Shurmur is going to turn over the keys to us and say, ‘You need to run this thing the right way. I don’t need to be the guy policing the locker room. That’s on you guys.’ I think we embraced that.
“There’s two different philosophies. Not saying one’s better than the other. This is good for this group of guys.”
Cornerback Sheldon Brown admits he’s biased. Beginning his 10th year in the NFL, Brown spent eight years in Philadelphia, seven of those when Shurmur was the Eagles’ quarterbacks coach. But Brown said Shurmur putting the onus on his players is “how it should be.”
“You have guys who go home to their families, to their kids. You’ll tell me I can raise a family, but I can’t behave and act like a pro?” Brown said. “Give me the locker room. He understands that and I think that’s why the guys love and respect him.”
The professionalism Shurmur brought and the continuity expected from the pairing of Shurmur, president Mike Holmgren and General Manager Tom Heckert was a big reason left tackle Joe Thomas signed a seven-year, $84 million contract extension on Aug. 22.
“He won the respect of some of the leaders on the team right away with the way he treated them,” Thomas said. “Everyone kind of falls in line when you get that to happen.”
Shurmur believes in a professional approach, in people doing their jobs, and in human dignity. That means “everybody’s job is important whether you’re talking to the media or you might be on two phases of special teams,” he said.
When he metes out his rules, he explains the reasons why, even for something so simple as tucking in jerseys and undershirts at practice.
“First of all it looks good,” Shurmur said. “Second of all, it’s a safety concern. Nobody that is trying to tackle you will grab the back of your jersey. Even if they want to, they can’t get it.”
That method is going over well with kicker Phil Dawson, the longest-tenured Brown, who is beginning his 13th season in Cleveland.
“That’s the way it is with my kids,” said Dawson, a father of three. “I’ve tried just laying it down and they’ll follow it, but sometimes when you explain, ‘This is why,’ they respond better. We certainly have.”
Shurmur has brought more than that, Dawson said.
“There’s definitely a very professional feeling. More stable in some ways,” he said. “The communication is very clear. Everybody knows what’s expected. There’s not a lot of emotion, not highs or lows.”
Long-snapper Ryan Pontbriand, drafted by Davis in 2003, practically glows over the change in atmosphere.
“This is the most positive, the happiest I’ve been since I’ve been here,” Pontbriand said. “The focus is still the same, it’s about doing your job, being professional, making plays. But the attitude is completely positive, there’s no negative whatsoever. I’m almost a little shocked at how positive it is.
“It’s kind of funny, this is all I ever wanted. I’ve always wanted to be on a team where they say, ‘Be a professional and do your job.’ ”
Asked about feeling so strongly about a rookie coach, Pontbriand said: “He doesn’t act like it. It’s a really nice change.” His eyes widened and his eyebrows arched to emphasize his point.
No one knows whether the positive attitude Shurmur has brought and how he’s handled the team’s leadership will translate into victories. That might ride more on Heckert’s talent evaluations and whether Colt is the real McCoy.
But as the Shurmur era dawns, the Browns hope they’ll finally taste the continuity they’ve long craved. They can only imagine how sweet it is.
Marla Ridenour can be reached at [email protected]. Read her blog at http://marla.ohio.com/. Follow her on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/MarlaRidenour. Follow ABJ sports on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/sports.abj.
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Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Sep 8, 2011 9:01pm
I'm betting he's been ordered to not get sun because of past damage and possible skin cancer. I've seen those hats before and they're designed to do just that.Commander of Awesome;887937 wrote:That hat is embarrassing Shumur. SMH
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Sep 8, 2011 11:04pm
My AFC North Preseason Awards...
http://www.brownsgab.com/2011/09/08/afc-north-preseason-awards/
I agree with the articles above though, I really hope that Shurmur can bring continuity to the team and that Jauron's 4-3 defense can drastically improve our defense against the run.
http://www.brownsgab.com/2011/09/08/afc-north-preseason-awards/
I agree with the articles above though, I really hope that Shurmur can bring continuity to the team and that Jauron's 4-3 defense can drastically improve our defense against the run.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Sep 8, 2011 11:10pm
Without a doubt it ishoops23;887828 wrote:Teams have went from 1-15, 2-14 to the playoffs the very next season.
Am I saying the Browns go from 5-11 to the playoffs? Not likely, especially in the AFC North... However, somtimes teams that are expected to be very good, falter as well..
Point is, the NFL is truly a year to year league.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Sep 8, 2011 11:12pm
Stopped right there. Might as well be a tallest midget award.OhioStatePride2003;888367 wrote:My AFC North Preseason Awards...
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Sep 8, 2011 11:30pm
Ouch. It's just an article. At least you're not taking a dig at my writing abilities.Commander of Awesome;888386 wrote:Stopped right there. Might as well be a tallest midget award.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Sep 8, 2011 11:35pm
So James Jones chose to be the 6th WR in Green Bay over a starter at somewhere like Cle?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Sep 9, 2011 12:03am
Nope can't dig at your article bc I didn't read it. lolOhioStatePride2003;888438 wrote:Ouch. It's just an article. At least you're not taking a dig at my writing abilities.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 9, 2011 5:26am
I'm not really sure that Cleveland was even interested. Heckert seems pretty happy with what they've got.bases_loaded;888449 wrote:So James Jones chose to be the 6th WR in Green Bay over a starter at somewhere like Cle?
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Sep 9, 2011 6:42am
OhioStatePride2003;888367 wrote:My AFC North Preseason Awards...
http://www.brownsgab.com/2011/09/08/afc-north-preseason-awards/
I agree with the articles above though, I really hope that Shurmur can bring continuity to the team and that Jauron's 4-3 defense can drastically improve our defense against the run.
Ziggy Hood? Interesting. Couldn't agree more about Antonio Brown. Overall not bad.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 9, 2011 8:32am
Yeah, they will be tough to match up with defensively. All of that friggin speed will make Hines Ward an afterthought.killer_ewok;888650 wrote:Couldn't agree more about Antonio Brown.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 9, 2011 12:22pm
Holmgren was on Mike & Mike this morning. An overview of the interview...
Holmgren commented on New Orleans decision to run last night, said he would of passed.
Very happy with Shurmur.
Heckert has done a good job bringing in talent.
Good team, but they're real young.
Talent level is "ok"
Thinks team will be ok
Told Colt to relax. Thinks he has to win the games himself (I (BR1986FB) don't like this)
Not happy with new kickoff rule.
Wish we were under old kickoff system, but understands the reason behind move.
Wants to re-sign Hillis.
Golic has a hard on for Hillis 24" pythons
The most interesting part was when they ended the interview and asked "is there anything else you want to say?" and Holmgren said "yes, FUCK CAPONE AND GO BROWNS !!!"
Holmgren commented on New Orleans decision to run last night, said he would of passed.
Very happy with Shurmur.
Heckert has done a good job bringing in talent.
Good team, but they're real young.
Talent level is "ok"
Thinks team will be ok
Told Colt to relax. Thinks he has to win the games himself (I (BR1986FB) don't like this)
Not happy with new kickoff rule.
Wish we were under old kickoff system, but understands the reason behind move.
Wants to re-sign Hillis.
Golic has a hard on for Hillis 24" pythons
The most interesting part was when they ended the interview and asked "is there anything else you want to say?" and Holmgren said "yes, FUCK CAPONE AND GO BROWNS !!!"
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Sep 9, 2011 12:28pm
HAHA! Classic.BR1986FB;888953 wrote:Holmgren was on Mike & Mike this morning. An overview of the interview...
Holmgren commented on New Orleans decision to run last night, said he would of passed.
Very happy with Shurmur.
Heckert has done a good job bringing in talent.
Good team, but they're real young.
Talent level is "ok"
Thinks team will be ok
Told Colt to relax. Thinks he has to win the games himself (I (BR1986FB) don't like this)
Not happy with new kickoff rule.
Wish we were under old kickoff system, but understands the reason behind move.
Wants to re-sign Hillis.
Golic has a hard on for Hillis 24" pythons
The most interesting part was when they ended the interview and asked "is there anything else you want to say?" and Holmgren said "yes, FUCK CAPONE AND GO BROWNS !!!"
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 9, 2011 1:44pm
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Sep 9, 2011 2:59pm
I wouldn't mind seeing a 4 year 22-23(16 guaranteed) million dollar contract for Hillis.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 9, 2011 3:05pm
I rather it be a 3 year contract to be honest.
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zach24oz
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Sep 9, 2011 3:57pm