Crimson streak
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Aug 21, 2011 10:57am
I finally get to watch a browns game this week as they play Philly. That being said, Philly really struggled against the steelers and Vick was absolutely horrible. It will be a good test for McCoy with the excellent DB's that Philly has.
shook_17
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Aug 21, 2011 12:47pm
does anybody know if the game will be live on tv in toledo thursday night?
robj55
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Aug 21, 2011 1:15pm
How in the world can Cam Newton go overall number 1 in the draft and now people don't even want to use a 4th, 5th or 6th round pick on TP, seems ass backwards to me. Troy Smith is still a free agent, maybe Cleveland could bring him in as a backup.
Commander of Awesome
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Aug 21, 2011 1:26pm
robj55;869055 wrote:How in the world can Cam Newton go overall number 1 in the draft and now people don't even want to use a 4th, 5th or 6th round pick on TP, seems ass backwards to me. Troy Smith is still a free agent, maybe Cleveland could bring him in as a backup.
We have a back up in Seneca Wallace.
robj55
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Aug 21, 2011 1:29pm
Commander of Awesome;869064 wrote:We have a back up in Seneca Wallace.
3rd string, people don't seem to enthralled about Brown it seems.
Heretic
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Aug 21, 2011 1:31pm
robj55;869055 wrote:How in the world can Cam Newton go overall number 1 in the draft and now people don't even want to use a 4th, 5th or 6th round pick on TP, seems ass backwards to me. Troy Smith is still a free agent, maybe Cleveland could bring him in as a backup.
Because Carolina is fucking stupid. Putting the number one overall pick into an "athlete" QB...lol
Crimson streak
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Aug 21, 2011 1:33pm
Atleast cam newton can throw a ball Pryor can't
robj55
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Aug 21, 2011 1:34pm
Heretic;869069 wrote:Because Carolina is ****ing stupid. Putting the number one overall pick into an "athlete" QB...lol
Yes but even if they didn't select him he still would have gone in the first round. That's a hell of a gap between a perceived first round pick and a 4th-7th.
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BR1986FB
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Aug 21, 2011 1:36pm
robj55;869055 wrote:How in the world can Cam Newton go overall number 1 in the draft and now people don't even want to use a 4th, 5th or 6th round pick on TP, seems ass backwards to me. Troy Smith is still a free agent, maybe Cleveland could bring him in as a backup.
Umm, no. First subpar game McCoy has and all of the Buckeye nuthuggers will be screaming for career benchwarmer Smith. He's no better than Wallace.
robj55
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Aug 21, 2011 1:36pm
Crimson streak;869072 wrote:Atleast cam newton can throw a ball Pryor can't
Pryor was just as accurate and played in a pro style offense though, not an option read offense where most of his throws were one read screens.
robj55
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Aug 21, 2011 1:37pm
BR1986FB;869078 wrote:Umm, no. First subpar game McCoy has and all of the Buckeye nuthuggers will be screaming for career benchwarmer Smith.
Just saying that it doesn't hurt to have depth, especially quality depth.
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BR1986FB
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Aug 21, 2011 1:37pm
robj55;869079 wrote:Pryor was just as accurate and played in a pro style offense though, not an option read offense where most of his throws were one read screens.
Pryor isn't accurate enough for the WCO.
robj55
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Aug 21, 2011 1:38pm
BR1986FB;869078 wrote:Umm, no. First subpar game McCoy has and all of the Buckeye nuthuggers will be screaming for career benchwarmer Smith. He's no better than Wallace.
And truthfully we don't know that McCoy won't be a career bench warmer at this point.
robj55
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Aug 21, 2011 1:39pm
BR1986FB;869083 wrote:Pryor isn't accurate enough for the WCO.
You're probably right, most people don't realize that Pryor's numbers were better than a guy like Aaron Rodgers however.
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BR1986FB
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Aug 21, 2011 1:40pm
robj55;869081 wrote:Just saying that it doesn't hurt to have depth, especially quality depth.
Not unproven depth that could cause a QB controversy just because of the college he attended. The "legend" of Troy Smith, who has never been able to win a starting NFL job for a prolonged period of time is, well, legendary. He's a sure first ballot Hall of Famer just due to said "legend." Even Uncle Rico blushes at his "accomplishments."
robj55
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Aug 21, 2011 1:43pm
BR1986FB;869088 wrote:Not unproven depth that could cause a QB controversy just because of the college he attended. The "legend" of Troy Smith, who has never been able to win a starting NFL job for a prolonged period of time is, well, legendary. He's a sure first ballot Hall of Famer just due to said "legend." Even Uncle Rico blushes at his "accomplishments."
I understand your point.
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BR1986FB
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Aug 21, 2011 1:46pm
robj55;869084 wrote:And truthfully we don't know that McCoy won't be a career bench warmer at this point.
I'd be willing to bet that McCoy has a better career, as a quarterback, than Pryor does.
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BR1986FB
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Aug 21, 2011 1:49pm
Confirmed that Evan Moore has a mild concussion.
robj55
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Aug 21, 2011 1:49pm
BR1986FB;869094 wrote:I'd be willing to bet that McCoy has a better career, as a quarterback, than Pryor does.
I'm not betting against you, just saying that there are a lot of things unproven at this point.
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BR1986FB
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Aug 21, 2011 1:51pm
robj55;869097 wrote:I'm not betting against you, just saying that there are a lot of things unproven at this point.
Agreed but I'm expecting at least 20 TD's and 3000+ yards passing this year if he stays healthy this year. Shurmur uses the pass to set up the run. If anyone has a "falloff" it will be Hillis.
Hb31187
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Aug 21, 2011 1:53pm
robj55;869086 wrote:You're probably right, most people don't realize that Pryor's numbers were better than a guy like Aaron Rodgers however.
And Chad Henne had better numbers than Pryor in a pro style offense. And as a Dolphins fan, you know how that worked out for ya lol
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BR1986FB
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Aug 21, 2011 1:55pm
For Browns fans, is it just me or does it look like the Browns FINALLY have a "real" head coach? It's just the way Shurmur carries himself and goes about his business. Dude looks like he knows what he's doing. Having a fallback like Holmgren can't hurt. Just an observation...
robj55
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Aug 21, 2011 1:56pm
Hb31187;869100 wrote:And Chad Henne had better numbers than Pryor in a pro style offense. And as a Dolphins fan, you know how that worked out for ya lol
LOL don't remind me, Henne's problem is mental though, he has the arm and the accuracy most of the time. He has mental lapses and folds under pressure.
robj55
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Aug 21, 2011 1:57pm
BR1986FB;869099 wrote:Agreed but I'm expecting at least 20 TD's and 3000+ yards passing this year if he stays healthy this year. Shurmur uses the pass to set up the run. If anyone has a "falloff" it will be Hillis.
I will be pleasantly surprised if he puts up those numbers.
Hb31187
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Aug 21, 2011 1:59pm
Probably will be easier to tell once the season hits and you see how he reacts to adversity and what not. Looks leaps and bounds better than the past few thoughBR1986FB;869102 wrote:For Browns fans, is it just me or does it look like the Browns FINALLY have a "real" head coach? It's just the way Shurmur carries himself and goes about his business. Dude looks like he knows what he's doing. Having a fallback like Holmgren can't hurt. Just an observation...