What's the difference between Ohio State's "O" celebration and Oregons?

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Nov 27, 2010 5:03 PM
Just curious if the Big Ten has different rules than the Pac-10....If so, is this allowed or can the NCAA make a rule across the board for all conferences? I don't agree with the penalties that were thrown against OSU because I have seen Oregon players do this with no flags. Any info on this?
Nov 27, 2010 5:03pm
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Nov 27, 2010 5:04 PM
It's a fair argument regarding potential lack of consistency. I would like to see them flag Oregon also...or at least make certain the rule prohibits such action.
Nov 27, 2010 5:04pm
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Nov 27, 2010 5:05 PM
Alabama also did it all game yesterday and no flags, Im guessing its a Big Ten thing.
Nov 27, 2010 5:05pm
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Nov 27, 2010 5:10 PM
So does Miami with their 'U' sign
Nov 27, 2010 5:10pm
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Nov 27, 2010 5:18 PM
Big Ten refs apparently were told to enforce that stuff in a more strict fashion.
Big Ten is definitely one who would try to make themselves look "above" that stuff by flagging it.
Nov 27, 2010 5:18pm
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Nov 27, 2010 5:21 PM
Con_Alma;577733 wrote:It's a fair argument regarding potential lack of consistency. I would like to see them flag Oregon also...or at least make certain the rule prohibits such action.

Why should you be flagged for such a mild celebration? Seriously?
Nov 27, 2010 5:21pm
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Nov 27, 2010 6:06 PM
There's a million other things a player can do to show up an opponent that deserves to be flagged. Reping your school with an O should be the least of their worries.
Nov 27, 2010 6:06pm
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Nov 27, 2010 8:20 PM
Maybe the Big Ten refs didn't realize that the "O" is a Nike design and not a gang sign?
Nov 27, 2010 8:20pm
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Nov 27, 2010 8:34 PM
If this is being emphasized by the Big Ten, then they're even more lame and incompetent than I thought (that's saying something). Worry about calling correct plays, not holding when it doesn't exist (Sanzenbacher's block today) or grabbing the facemask (which also happened to Sanzenbacher on the same play).
Nov 27, 2010 8:34pm
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Nov 27, 2010 8:41 PM
Writerbuckeye;577967 wrote:If this is being emphasized by the Big Ten, then they're even more lame and incompetent than I thought (that's saying something). Worry about calling correct plays, not holding when it doesn't exist (Sanzenbacher's block today) or grabbing the facemask (which also happened to Sanzenbacher on the same play).
That was total bullshit without a doubt. The friggin ref was standing right next to the play and completely blew the call. Jim Lachey almost blew a cork on that one on the Ohio State Radio Network.
Nov 27, 2010 8:41pm
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Nov 27, 2010 9:02 PM
one thing is for sure: OSU probably won't be wearing those Nike gloves anymore.

Pretty inconsistent across the board on that stuff this weekend
Nov 27, 2010 9:02pm
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Nov 27, 2010 9:55 PM
Yeah those calls were majorly dumb. What was the actual rule infraction?
Nov 27, 2010 9:55pm
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Nov 27, 2010 10:00 PM
WebFire;578161 wrote:Yeah those calls were majorly dumb. What was the actual rule infraction?

Unsportsmanlike conduct for "excessive celebrating".....lol....BS
Nov 27, 2010 10:00pm
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Nov 27, 2010 10:21 PM
WebFire;578161 wrote:Yeah those calls were majorly dumb. What was the actual rule infraction?

When Adams did it he said it was because he flashed an O to the fans
Nov 27, 2010 10:21pm
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Nov 27, 2010 10:24 PM
Well I realize this, but in the rulebook, what rule was broken? Is it specifically illegal to flash a sign to the fans?
Nov 27, 2010 10:24pm
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Nov 27, 2010 10:34 PM
My question is was Posey flagged for the "O" sign or for diving into the endzone. At first I thought the dive (which seemed like a bad call because there were people close enough that he could have felt he needed to) but then after Adams was flagged they showed the Posey and Sanzenbacher did the same. Dane was not flagged but was wondering if Posey was flagged for that or the dive.
Nov 27, 2010 10:34pm
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Nov 27, 2010 10:42 PM
Posey getting flagged when there were two defenders closing in on him was just awful.
Nov 27, 2010 10:42pm
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Nov 27, 2010 10:55 PM
It wasn't for the dive. I believe that gets called back if it's called, and it's only called when it is considered flaunting, which it clearly was not.
Nov 27, 2010 10:55pm
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Nov 27, 2010 11:00 PM
Just got home from the game...everywhere you went on campus tonight people were flashing the "O" sign. It was awesome.
Nov 27, 2010 11:00pm
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Nov 27, 2010 11:02 PM
WebFire;578295 wrote:It wasn't for the dive. I believe that gets called back if it's called

It doesn't get called back. Happened to Santonio Holmes against ND in 2005
Nov 27, 2010 11:02pm
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Nov 27, 2010 11:45 PM
LJ;578318 wrote:It doesn't get called back. Happened to Santonio Holmes against ND in 2005
Back then it didn't. I know last year there was talk of changing this for this year and making it so it is called back. Didn't think they went through with that plan though.
Nov 27, 2010 11:45pm
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Nov 27, 2010 11:46 PM
Scarlet_Fever;578458 wrote:Back then it didn't. I know last year there was talk of changing this for this year and making it so it is called back. Didn't think they went through with that plan though.

I didn't think they did either
Nov 27, 2010 11:46pm
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Nov 28, 2010 12:01 AM
I'm FAR from an OSU fan and I hate hot-dogging/showboating. That being said, the "Block O" celebration penalty was bullshit. No way that should've been called. As others have said, other teams do that quite often and are allowed and I don't think there's a problem with that. A show of school pride and not in the face of a defender. Not a big deal. Bad calls. The dive? Well, if unnecessary I'm kinda against it. I wouldn't be pissed if they let it go but if you don't need to....don't bother. But again, those "Block O" calls were a joke. Let that shit go. That's nothing.
Nov 28, 2010 12:01am
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Nov 28, 2010 12:08 AM
LJ;578318 wrote:It doesn't get called back. Happened to Santonio Holmes against ND in 2005

Holmes did vs Michigan in Ann Arbor did he not?


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Nov 28, 2010 12:08am
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Nov 28, 2010 12:09 AM
Tiger2003;578498 wrote:Holmes did vs Michigan in Ann Arbor did he not?


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I definitely remember him getting flagged for that in the '06 Fiesta Bowl.
Nov 28, 2010 12:09am