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Nov 24, 2010 9:48 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5845736

Gee says Boise and TCU "do not face a difficult enough schedule to play in the national championship game."

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Nov 24, 2010 9:48am
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Nov 24, 2010 9:53 AM
I'm a GG fan but you have to admit his football analytical skills are suspect...ala the famous Cooper tie with scUM and GG claimed it as one of our "greatest victories...". That one gave skunkweasels ammunition against us for years afterwards.
Nov 24, 2010 9:53am
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Nov 24, 2010 9:57 AM
Guess Dr. Gee hasn't seen Oregon's schedule.
Nov 24, 2010 9:57am
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Nov 24, 2010 10:00 AM
I respectfully disagree with Gee here. He should mandate that we schedule fewer MAC teams and he'd have a point.
Nov 24, 2010 10:00am
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Nov 24, 2010 10:05 AM
I highly respect Gordon Gee (and have met him on several occasions, great guy), BUT, this is a lame move by him. It's not like OSU has any truly big signature wins this year (sadly). Of all the years to drop this quote, this probably isn't the best one to use in a comparison.
Nov 24, 2010 10:05am
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Nov 24, 2010 10:13 AM
Yeah it sounds really stupid. If I'm not mistaken, OSU's best win(s) this season is over 4 loss teams. SOS is not on Mr. Gee's side in 2010. Maybe a little fuel to the fire if OSU happens to match up with one of these teams in a BCS bowl.
Nov 24, 2010 10:13am
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Nov 24, 2010 10:17 AM
I know no matter what Gee does he reps OSU, but NOWHERE did he say word 1 about OSU. He wasn't comparing schedules with the Bucks, he didn't say OSU deserved a shot, not one word about the Bucks.

He is simply stating that Boise and TCU do not play a tough enough schedule to deserve a shot at the NC.
Nov 24, 2010 10:17am
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Nov 24, 2010 10:17 AM
how is it any better than dominating the MAC.
Nov 24, 2010 10:17am
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Nov 24, 2010 10:20 AM
Not sure how I feel about Gee's comments. Naturally people are going to think that he's comparing OSU to these teams, so with that said, people are just going to start comparing Boise and TCU's schedules to OSU's. And when looking at OSU's resume, it's rather unimpressive.

With that said, I think Gee's comments are the consensus, so I'm not sure why this is so newsworthy. Gee acts like a fan like the rest of us, but he's smart enough to know that he is always on a podium so whatever he says will be looked at under more scrutiny.
Nov 24, 2010 10:20am
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Nov 24, 2010 10:25 AM
wildcats20;573732 wrote:I know no matter what Gee does he reps OSU, but NOWHERE did he say word 1 about OSU. He wasn't comparing schedules with the Bucks, he didn't say OSU deserved a shot, not one word about the Bucks.

He is simply stating that Boise and TCU do not play a tough enough schedule to deserve a shot at the NC.

Fair point actually, he wasn't really pushing to get OSU in the conversation. I stand corrected, although the article does seem to imply that, but maybe I am misinterpreting it.
Nov 24, 2010 10:25am
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Nov 24, 2010 11:21 AM
He's the best college president in the country, but I disagree with this entirely, as does 99.9% of any True buckeye fan.
Nov 24, 2010 11:21am
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Nov 24, 2010 11:27 AM
He also says a playoff is a "slippery slope toward professionalism", while basically every other sport fielded by universities as well as every other division of football does, and the obvious cash cow that is March Madness (you know, the best 3 weeks of the year)...

He's talking out of both ends.

BigAppleBuckeye;573747 wrote:Fair point actually, he wasn't really pushing to get OSU in the conversation. I stand corrected, although the article does seem to imply that, but maybe I am misinterpreting it.
I would think he has to be implying that a 1 loss OSU is still better than them, even though he obviously treaded lightly. He really doesn't have any other reason to speak up about it right now, does he?
Nov 24, 2010 11:27am
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Nov 24, 2010 11:37 AM
I hate it when anyone associated with college athletics cites "academics" as the reason there is no playoff in football. It's just a BS excuse that is laughable.
Nov 24, 2010 11:37am
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Nov 24, 2010 11:40 AM
He's not saying anything that most BCS AQ members think to themselves anyway. He is off a bit though. Boise and TCU are indeed hanging around as their defeated opponents still seem to be performing, (or at least out preforming) many AQ defeated opponents. He's a smart guy, and I'm sure he knows how the BCS works, but he's got to tow the company line.
Nov 24, 2010 11:40am
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Nov 24, 2010 11:42 AM
thedynasty1998;573853 wrote:I hate it when anyone associated with college athletics cites "academics" as the reason there is no playoff in football. It's just a BS excuse that is laughable.

No other sport I know of has its seasons end coincide with the end of quarters/semesters though. It may be weak, but it also conflicts like no other.
Nov 24, 2010 11:42am
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Nov 24, 2010 11:47 AM
ytownfootball;573860 wrote:No other sport I know of has its seasons end coincide with the end of quarters/semesters though. It may be weak, but it also conflicts like no other.

Actually, with OSU (and all of the other Ohio quarter schools) the basketball conference tournaments and/or (depends on the year) NCAA first 2 rounds run right into Winter Quarter finals week.

It'll be a thing of the past come the 2012-13 season with the semester transition by OSU, OU, and UC, but it's in direct conflict now, and has been for a while.
Nov 24, 2010 11:47am
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Nov 24, 2010 11:49 AM
Wouldn't it be something if somehow OSU played TCU or Boise in a Bowl game? LOL. Unlikely, I'm sure.....but it would be interesting. The bulletin board material is out there if it happens.

And even though he didn't really compare OSU to those schools specifically, he did say "we" after pointing out that he's been a president at Big 10 and SEC schools. Yeah, because no teams in those conferences EVER schedule some teams that could be considered "Little Sisters of the Poor."
Nov 24, 2010 11:49am
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Nov 24, 2010 11:49 AM
ts1227;573862 wrote:Actually, with OSU (and all of the other Ohio quarter schools) the basketball conference tournaments and/or (depends on the year) NCAA first 2 rounds run right into Winter Quarter finals week.

It'll be a thing of the last come the 2012-13 season, but it's in direct conflict now, and has been for a while.

There's been a huge push to move nearly all schools to semesters. I think OSU goes to semesters in '12, I could be wrong about that. Point being that most are on semesters, and I think that will be continued.
Nov 24, 2010 11:49am
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Nov 24, 2010 11:49 AM
I don't care what OSU's schedule looks like. The only BCS conf Boise or TCU might run in is the Big East. I don't see any chance Boise or TCU runs the table in any other BCS conf. It not the strength of the opponent that will do it, it's the grind of having to play against superior athletes at the likes of Iowa, Wisc, Penn St, Mich, etc..(just using Big Ten as an example) week in and out compared to New Mexico, Idaho, Utah St, etc..week in and out leading to less injuries, freshness, etc!! Which gives teams like Boise and TCU a better shot of winning come end of season time as they are not banged up like the big boys!!
Nov 24, 2010 11:49am
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Nov 24, 2010 11:54 AM
He is only saying what most people already think, he did not say Ohio State should be playing in the N/C game. I agree with what Art Schicter (probably misspelled) said on the radio the other night, Boise and TCU are both very good teams but if they had to play in the Big Ten or SEC week after week they would probably not hold up,whereas in their league they are never challemged physically and with the exception of an occational out of conference game they play nothing, so why should you reward playing nothing with a shot at the National Championship. Gee has the right to say whatever he thinks but probably should not comment on this particular situation as the passion runs high on both sides of the argument. Personally , I think both Boise and TCU are legit top 10 teams but would not go unbeaten in any major conference except the Big East. I hope Auburn can beat Alabama (but I doubt it) so that they and Oregon play for the N/C and then no sane person could argue that the 2 most deserving teams are playing. (as for Oregon's schedule, last time I looked they play in the PAC 10, a very good Conference)
Nov 24, 2010 11:54am
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Nov 24, 2010 11:56 AM
Fab1b;573866 wrote:I don't care what OSU's schedule looks like. The only BCS conf Boise or TCU might run in is the Big East. I don't see any chance Boise or TCU runs the table in any other BCS conf. It not the strength of the opponent that will do it, it's the grind of having to play against superior athletes at the likes of Iowa, Wisc, Penn St, Mich, etc..(just using Big Ten as an example) week in and out compared to New Mexico, Idaho, Utah St, etc..week in and out leading to less injuries, freshness, etc!! Which gives teams like Boise and TCU a better shot of winning come end of season time as they are not banged up like the big boys!!

Superb post. I was going to say this exact thing, you beat me to it.
Nov 24, 2010 11:56am
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Nov 24, 2010 11:59 AM
I guess my point is he claims that "we" (SEC and Big 10 schools) don't schedule "Little Sisters of the Poor." Well, Alabama just played GEORGIA STATE last week. And the list could go on and on.

I'm not knocking OSU, the SEC or the Big 10. Simply pointing out that he's wrong with that statement.
Nov 24, 2010 11:59am
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Nov 24, 2010 12:02 PM
killer_ewok;573878 wrote:I guess my point is he claims that "we" (SEC and Big 10 schools) don't schedule "Little Sisters of the Poor." Well, Alabama just played GEORGIA STATE last week. And the list could go on and on.

I'm not knocking OSU, the SEC or the Big 10. Simply pointing out that he's wrong with that statement.

His point isn't that they (the big boys) don't schedule a cup cake or two in OOC games but rather that their conference games (70% of games) aren't comprised of cup cakes.
Nov 24, 2010 12:02pm
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Nov 24, 2010 12:14 PM
What if Boise or TCU were in the ACC or Big East? Would anyone argue that they wouldn't go undefeated in those conferences? If they did, they are in the NC game. I agree that neither should play in the NC, but that's not because of their schedule, it's because I don't think either is a top 2 team.

Let's just quit pretending that all these BCS conferences have this grind of a season. Really the only conference that can make that statement is the SEC. Ohio State really only have to "prepare" for 3 teams on their schedule and the others were a sure win.
Nov 24, 2010 12:14pm
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Nov 24, 2010 12:19 PM
thedynasty1998;573917 wrote:What if Boise or TCU were in the ACC or Big East? Would anyone argue that they wouldn't go undefeated in those conferences? If they did, they are in the NC game. I agree that neither should play in the NC, but that's not because of their schedule, it's because I don't think either is a top 2 team.

Let's just quit pretending that all these BCS conferences have this grind of a season. Really the only conference that can make that statement is the SEC. Ohio State really only have to "prepare" for 3 teams on their schedule and the others were a sure win.


So who are you leaving out?
Nov 24, 2010 12:19pm