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OneBuckeye

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Nov 19, 2010 10:31 AM
Ohio Chatter should become a minor league ohio charity, networking or service site, kind of like Kiwanis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwanis Except with a very different ohio networking or ohio service type mission that is mostly internet based.
Nov 19, 2010 10:31am
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FatHobbit

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Nov 19, 2010 10:33 AM
queencitybuckeye;565354 wrote:I agree with the sentiment, but in reality, we could name 6-8 posters that 99% of the membership would agree are trolls and contribute nothing to the site. Why have them here?

Even if we could agree who the trolls are, wouldn't they just create new accounts? I think the best way to handle trolls is to ignore them.
Nov 19, 2010 10:33am
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j_crazy

7 gram rocks. how i roll.

8,372 posts
Nov 19, 2010 10:35 AM
FatHobbit;565374 wrote:Even if we could agree who the trolls are, wouldn't they just create new accounts? I think the best way to handle trolls is to ignore them.

lol a feature that universally ignored all of the (accpted) trolls' posts. i like that.
Nov 19, 2010 10:35am
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Fly4Fun

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Nov 19, 2010 10:36 AM
FatHobbit;565374 wrote:Even if we could agree who the trolls are, wouldn't they just create new accounts? I think the best way to handle trolls is to ignore them.

Exactly, lets say we ban their original account, they will create another ad nauseum. We try to keep them relatively in line with the whole infraction system for personal attacks. But as far as their just ridiculous posting goes, ignore it. What they want and need is attention, specifically negative attention from normally reasonable posters.
Nov 19, 2010 10:36am
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rydawg5

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Nov 19, 2010 10:39 AM
Yeah..when I had banned fly4fun for being a doosher on the huddle the litle shit went a made a new account..completley defeats the purpose!
Nov 19, 2010 10:39am
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FatHobbit

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Nov 19, 2010 10:43 AM
j_crazy;565376 wrote:lol a feature that universally ignored all of the (accpted) trolls' posts. i like that.

How would someone get on the troll list? If we vote on it, I'm envisioning someone creating multiple accounts and then voting against someone just to get them on the list. Maybe an account has to have a set amount of posts to get voting rights?
Nov 19, 2010 10:43am
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j_crazy

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Nov 19, 2010 10:49 AM
FatHobbit;565386 wrote:How would someone get on the troll list? If we vote on it, I'm envisioning someone creating multiple accounts and then voting against someone just to get them on the list. Maybe an account has to have a set amount of posts to get voting rights?

not everyone's vote should count.
Nov 19, 2010 10:49am
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gerb131

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Nov 19, 2010 10:50 AM
Ban all people who drive Civics
Nov 19, 2010 10:50am
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FatHobbit

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Nov 19, 2010 10:50 AM
j_crazy;565392 wrote:not everyone's vote should count.

How do you decide who's vote counts? (I like where you're going with this, but I can't quite figure out the execution.)
Nov 19, 2010 10:50am
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queencitybuckeye

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Nov 19, 2010 10:50 AM
FatHobbit;565374 wrote:Even if we could agree who the trolls are, wouldn't they just create new accounts? I think the best way to handle trolls is to ignore them.

I don't disagree, but you and me ignoring them does no good unless everyone follows suit, something that rarely happens.
Nov 19, 2010 10:50am
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FatHobbit

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Nov 19, 2010 10:51 AM
gerb131;565394 wrote:Ban all people who drive Civics

Lol, I'm out then.
Nov 19, 2010 10:51am
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Cleveland Buck

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Nov 19, 2010 10:54 AM
Instead of banning the trolls, they should just be automatically added to everyone's ignore list, including new members when they sign up. I'm sure Justin Incredible could accomplish that.
Nov 19, 2010 10:54am
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gerb131

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Nov 19, 2010 10:57 AM
FatHobbit;565399 wrote:Lol, I'm out then.

But your pretty cool why do you drive Civic?
Nov 19, 2010 10:57am
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FatHobbit

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Nov 19, 2010 10:59 AM
gerb131;565408 wrote:But your pretty cool why do you drive Civic?

It's reliable, relatively cheap and gets good gas mileage. :)
Nov 19, 2010 10:59am
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gerb131

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Nov 19, 2010 11:01 AM
FatHobbit;565410 wrote:It's reliable, relatively cheap and gets good gas mileage. :)

I'm just giving ya shit but no loud pipe? Then your ok.
Nov 19, 2010 11:01am
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justincredible

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Nov 19, 2010 11:26 AM
Cleveland Buck;565406 wrote:Instead of banning the trolls, they should just be automatically added to everyone's ignore list, including new members when they sign up. I'm sure Justin Incredible could accomplish that.

This can definitely be done. The problem is the same as just banning someone. Once they realize they are on the "troll" list they'll just create a new account.

Believe me, I think about this issue constantly. I'll eventually hit the jackpot with an idea.
Nov 19, 2010 11:26am
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justincredible

Nick Mangold

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Nov 19, 2010 11:37 AM
As for how to grow the site I am constantly thinking about that as well.

The domain name gives us a lot of flexibility in what we can focus on (so long as it is relevant to Ohio, of course). Clearly this is a "sports" crowd, so that will always be one of the main draws to the site. In the future I see the HS sports section (at least for the larger sports) expanding but also focusing on the college and pro teams in the state. No, this doesn't mean we'll start posting poorly written articles (although wes_mantooth has an entire hard drive full of them just ready to post). Actually, I'm not quite sure what it means. Once my real job slows down after the first of the year, I've got a huge website to finish up before I head to Mexico in December, I'll be putting a lot of planning into the future of Ohio Chatter.

If anyone has any ideas for features (not necessarily for the forums) that would add value to the site I am all ears. Drop me a PM with your idea. No ideas are stupid, unless it's something SnotBubbles dreams up, so I am interested in hearing anything you can think of no matter how big or small it might be.
Nov 19, 2010 11:37am
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rydawg5

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Nov 19, 2010 11:46 AM
is there a way to create a 2nd web address and still go to the same site? this is the only forum go to that blocked.. im sure that could deter some from going.

iknow u cantchange the name of the site tho
Nov 19, 2010 11:46am
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Nate

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Nov 19, 2010 11:54 AM
I'm full of ideas.
Nov 19, 2010 11:54am
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j_crazy

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Nov 19, 2010 11:57 AM
justincredible;565461 wrote: If anyone has any ideas for features (not necessarily for the forums) that would add value to the site I am all ears. Drop me a PM with your idea. No ideas are stupid, unless it's something SnotBubbles dreams up, so I am interested in hearing anything you can think of no matter how big or small it might be.


too much work considering i already posted them in this thread.
Nov 19, 2010 11:57am
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justincredible

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Nov 19, 2010 11:57 AM
rydawg5;565469 wrote:is there a way to create a 2nd web address and still go to the same site? this is the only forum go to that blocked.. im sure that could deter some from going.

iknow u cantchange the name of the site tho

Other domains point here, but unless I want to absolutely murder my SEO the site can only live on one domain.
Nov 19, 2010 11:57am
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The Equalizer

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Nov 19, 2010 11:58 AM
It's a pain in the ass to have to keep banning people who have nothing else better to do with their life than spam a message board but maybe just treat them like email spam and just keep all the mods on the lookout and zap them as they pop up. I know there are ways around IP blocks but there has to be something somewhere that can be a more permanent line of defense to keep people out or at least make them work hard to get back in so that at some point its just not worth it anymore.

For a focus I think it might be of value to brand ourselves like a magazine does like Maxim. Knowing your audience and what they want. Basically about 99% of our folks are guys between what....18-35ish? Sports, chicks, video games, entertainment, tech/gadgets. Not sure how to restructure the forums to meet that but thats what came to mind.
Nov 19, 2010 11:58am
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justincredible

Nick Mangold

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Nov 19, 2010 12:02 PM
The Equalizer;565490 wrote:For a focus I think it might be of value to brand ourselves like a magazine does like Maxim. Knowing your audience and what they want. Basically about 99% of our folks are guys between what....18-35ish? Sports, chicks, video games, entertainment, tech/gadgets. Not sure how to restructure the forums to meet that but thats what came to mind.

I like where you're headed with this. And now I've found a use for all of mantooth's articles. :) Seriously, though. This is good stuff.
Nov 19, 2010 12:02pm
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j_crazy

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Nov 19, 2010 12:02 PM
The Equalizer;565490 wrote:It's a pain in the ass to have to keep banning people who have nothing else better to do with their life than spam a message board but maybe just treat them like email spam and just keep all the mods on the lookout and zap them as they pop up. I know there are ways around IP blocks but there has to be something somewhere that can be a more permanent line of defense to keep people out or at least make them work hard to get back in so that at some point its just not worth it anymore.

For a focus I think it might be of value to brand ourselves like a magazine does like Maxim. Knowing your audience and what they want. Basically about 99% of our folks are guys between what....18-35ish? Sports, chicks, video games, entertainment, tech/gadgets. Not sure how to restructure the forums to meet that but thats what came to mind.

certified email for harrassment?
Nov 19, 2010 12:02pm
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Nate

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Nov 19, 2010 12:07 PM
I still think articles would be a plus. Let members submit articles for review, and then have an editor pick and choose what should be posted and/or make suggestions on what articles need fixed to have posted.

I mean, the content on the forums is becoming pretty dry now.

Obviously, sports is the biggest trend in this group. Sports content will provide existing members a reason to say. But you still need some content that will grab new members. Sports content may not be the answer.

For example, including a video game approach may bring in people that like to chit-chat/bullshit and play video games. Heretic is a video-game uber nerd and is already writing shit so maybe he can contribute some stuff.

I'm just rambling but I'm sure I could think of other things.
Nov 19, 2010 12:07pm