Is it time for private schools to have theyre own playoffs in football

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Con_Alma

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Dec 29, 2010 7:48 AM
You completely missed his point.
Dec 29, 2010 7:48am
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Dec 29, 2010 7:48 AM
Alma_Parker;616596 wrote:why would you want to run steubenville catholic 'out of business' ? (not that you can have any effect on them, but let's go with that thought for a moment)... how are they hurting you? is it really and truly an anti-catholic school thing masquerading as a football issue?

It was toung in cheek nothing more , I am going to need an editor on this thread . I feel like im in a campaign
Dec 29, 2010 7:48am
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Dec 29, 2010 7:51 AM
Thinthickbigred;616620 wrote:It was toung in cheek nothing more , I am going to need an editor on this thread . I feel like im in a campaign

Then you don't truly want to run all private schools out of business....is that correct?
Dec 29, 2010 7:51am
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Dec 29, 2010 7:53 AM
Con_Alma;616619 wrote:You completely missed his point.

Ok I see his point but in my opinion it is hogwash... Those schools dont give a crap about a non parishiner unless the kid is good at football . and thats alot of catholic schools ...atleast the ones that dominate in football
Dec 29, 2010 7:53am
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Dec 29, 2010 7:58 AM
Thinthickbigred;616623 wrote:...but my opinion is hogwash...
1. Why?

2. Those schools can't have a school made up of only football players. They do care about sttudents that don't play football. They care about anyone that is willing to come in and pay the tuition.
Dec 29, 2010 7:58am
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Dec 29, 2010 8:10 AM
Con_Alma;616622 wrote:Then you don't truly want to run all private schools out of business....is that correct?

There status just does not concern me is all .. ..private schools have theyre own purpose ,its all good. Maybe our nations resources can help underdeveloped countries in Africa and other places build more schools ... thats another question board
Dec 29, 2010 8:10am
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Dec 29, 2010 8:16 AM
Con_Alma;616625 wrote:1. Why?

2. Those schools can't have a school made up of only football players. They do care about sttudents that don't play football. They care about anyone that is willing to come in and pay the tuition.

I am sure they do ,but bringing in great athletes under scholarship from the inner city brings in revenue for the entire school and certainly for the other athletic teams .. Its a college system at a smaller scale . Which is the whole point of this thread. Nobody can proove anything against a private school for recruiting violations because they dont have the same set of rules that public schools have .... WHY DO YOU GUYS THINK THAT THE CATHOLIC SCHOOLS DOMINATE IN HS FOOTBALL?
im tired of hearing from idiots that I know personnally that say its better coaching ..Inner city teams have no discipline.. etc etc etc .. Its all bull
Dec 29, 2010 8:16am
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Dec 29, 2010 8:17 AM
Thinthickbigred;616632 wrote:There status just does not concern me is all .. .....
That makes sense to me. It means you're indifferent to them. You neither want them run out of business nor to thrive because it doesn't concern you.
Dec 29, 2010 8:17am
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Con_Alma

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Dec 29, 2010 8:19 AM
Thinthickbigred;616640 wrote:... Nobody can proove anything against a private school for recruiting violations ....
I agree for the most part. You've been very clear , however, that it doesn't concern you whether it's "bull" or not.
Dec 29, 2010 8:19am
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Dec 29, 2010 8:23 AM
Con_Alma;616644 wrote:I agree for the most part. You've been very clear , however, that it doesn't concern you whether it's "bull" or not.

It concerns me that public schools dont have the same luxury
Dec 29, 2010 8:23am
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Dec 29, 2010 8:26 AM
I appreciate your clarification. I'm not so sure that I agree, however, with the way you apply the use of luxury.
Dec 29, 2010 8:26am
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Dec 29, 2010 8:27 AM
Con_Alma;616642 wrote:That makes sense to me. It means you're indifferent to them. You neither want them run out of business nor to thrive because it doesn't concern you.

Look I am not against the educational system . more schools are good more teachers are good .. I am more concerned with the public school system however ... When kids in LA dont have enough chairs to sit on in a classromm ,that is a problem .. You know There are a whole lot more catholics in the LA school system that are Mexican or from Central America etc and If I was catholic and big on the catholic school system I would be concerned about places like that that need help from the catholic charities.
Dec 29, 2010 8:27am
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Dec 29, 2010 8:47 AM
rmolin73;616384 wrote:This is what will happen.

I feel violated!!!

Schools like Buchtel will become even bigger factors.
Dec 29, 2010 8:47am
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Dec 29, 2010 8:57 AM
Thinthickbigred;616656 wrote:Look I am not against the educational system . more schools are good more teachers are good .. I am more concerned with the public school system however ... When kids in LA dont have enough chairs to sit on in a classromm ,that is a problem .. You know There are a whole lot more catholics in the LA school system that are Mexican or from Central America etc and If I was catholic and big on the catholic school system I would be concerned about places like that that need help from the catholic charities.

The tax payers of LA get to choose at what level they are willing to fund their public schools. The federal money provided provides the minimum funding for educational needs. If the people of LA want a greater level of educational service they need to fund it.

Regarding the lack of chairs, how the funds that come in are applied is up to the local board. If they are applying resources in other areas and don't have enough remaining to provide chairs the "problem" exists with them.
Dec 29, 2010 8:57am
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Dec 29, 2010 9:18 AM
Thinthickbigred;616640 wrote:I am sure they do ,but bringing in great athletes under scholarship from the inner city brings in revenue for the entire school and certainly for the other athletic teams .. Its a college system at a smaller scale . Which is the whole point of this thread. Nobody can proove anything against a private school for recruiting violations because they dont have the same set of rules that public schools have .... WHY DO YOU GUYS THINK THAT THE CATHOLIC SCHOOLS DOMINATE IN HS FOOTBALL?
im tired of hearing from idiots that I know personnally that say its better coaching ..Inner city teams have no discipline.. etc etc etc .. Its all bull

Really? It's bull when people claim that private schools are better due to coaching, etc? You didn't forget already that not too long ago in this thread...YOU said that Steubenville has a better football program than SCC due to coaching, do you?! Come on thin, why does that work for your argument...but it's bull when a private school supporter says it?

I've tried to show you on numerous occasions that all catholic schools do not dominate in HS football. It's a hand full of the catholic teams that dominate in football. And they dominate right along side a handful of public school teams that are always at the top. I don't know what you don't understand about that. Do I have to draw a picture for you?!
Dec 29, 2010 9:18am
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Dec 29, 2010 9:38 AM
Thinthickbigred;616395 wrote:Hey man you are misquoting that guy ..aint cool ..MODS is he allowed to do that ?

Yes...this ain't JJ's.
Alma_Parker;616591 wrote:it's not just 'catholic school fans' who don't want to change the system!!!!

Public school backer here...that sees no change needed for the system!
Dec 29, 2010 9:38am
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Dec 29, 2010 10:46 AM
sherm03;616695 wrote:Really? It's bull when people claim that private schools are better due to coaching, etc? You didn't forget already that not too long ago in this thread...YOU said that Steubenville has a better football program than SCC due to coaching, do you?! Come on thin, why does that work for your argument...but it's bull when a private school supporter says it?

I've tried to show you on numerous occasions that all catholic schools do not dominate in HS football. It's a hand full of the catholic teams that dominate in football. And they dominate right along side a handful of public school teams that are always at the top. I don't know what you don't understand about that. Do I have to draw a picture for you?!

When did I specifically say that Big Red has better coaching than SCC? Honestly ... I dont think I said that ... Maybe as a whole Big Red does but I like Centrals coach so I dont think I would diss him ..Besides Big Red is way above the curve for public schools and you know it ... Lets talk about on average .. .See you try more smoke and mirrors tactics ..You can always refer back to Big Red .. But can you refer back to 95% of the public schools as being able to compete with the very top echelon .. 5 out of 6 titles went to the catholic schools ..That says mountains to me and it isnt unusual
Dec 29, 2010 10:46am
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Dec 29, 2010 11:58 AM
That was your answer when asked why Steubenville does better than SCC every year:
Thinthickbigred;609480 wrote:causeCentral didnt want Reno as a coach ..But boy did he show them didnt he ...No we are the exception
And every time I do point out the public schools (with great programs, coaching, tradition)...::cough cough:: MAC teams ::cough cough::...you ignore it.
Dec 29, 2010 11:58am
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Dec 29, 2010 12:32 PM
This site has a bunch of pool hall punks.
Dec 29, 2010 12:32pm
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Dec 29, 2010 1:56 PM
Viking;616888 wrote:This site has a bunch of pool hall punks.

And people who pretend to be in the know about things going on at the OHSAA...
Dec 29, 2010 1:56pm
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Dec 29, 2010 2:43 PM
Viking;616669 wrote:I feel violated!!!

Schools like Buchtel will become even bigger factors.

Buchtel will just have an easier path but North will continue to be garbage. Also tell thinthickbigred that no means no so he can stop violating you:D
Dec 29, 2010 2:43pm
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Dec 29, 2010 3:06 PM
Thinthickbigred;616761 wrote:5 out of 6 titles went to the catholic schools ..That says mountains to me and it isnt unusual

Actually, unless I'm mistaken, it's unprecidented (that means it hasn't happened before which would mean your point is incorrect).
Dec 29, 2010 3:06pm
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Dec 29, 2010 3:21 PM
queencitybuckeye;617080 wrote:Actually, unless I'm mistaken, it's unprecidented (that means it hasn't happened before which would mean your point is incorrect).
That's true...at least from the private school perspective.

However, since the 6 division format was put in place in 1994, we have had public schools win 5/6 titles four times (1994, 1995, 1996, and 2006).
Public schools have won 4/6 titles five times (1997, 1998, 2000, 2004, and 2007)

By comparison, we have had private schools win 5/6 titles once (2010).
And private schools have won 4/6 titles three times (2001, 2008, and 2009).

Damn cheating private schools! They're taking all those titles away from all those poor public schools...and I'm tired of it!! /sarcasm
Dec 29, 2010 3:21pm
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Dec 29, 2010 3:50 PM
rmolin73;616384 wrote:This is what will happen.

You are nothing but a pool hall punk.
Dec 29, 2010 3:50pm
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Dec 29, 2010 3:52 PM
sherm03;616994 wrote:And people who pretend to be in the know about things going on at the OHSAA...

My info is based on media reports and AD's and coaches.
Dec 29, 2010 3:52pm